CA - Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #9

[time]

Yes, it's Radar Online, may or may not be new to everyone.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...th-not-suicide-lawyer-anne-bremner-calls-case

Posted on Sep 06, 2011 @ 05:00AM

"Her texts referenced were from a year before and benign. And the claim that she had lost weight and didn't work out was not true and admittedly was from six months prior."

Bremner has said she plans to formally request the Sheriff's Department reopen Zahau's death investigation.

She added: "This investigation shouldn't have had an ending Friday. It should have had a beginning."

I take it this is inference to the phone journal? If they are really benign and a date can be set based on what she was writing, then I truly think the Sheriff's Dept. were just using it and being so secretively to try and bolster their flimsy case for how she could be so suicidal. Not cool at all if that is true.


Thanks to whoever raised the question of the prints on the balcony and 'where is the rope trail'? if there is none, then are we to believe that in addition to having her hands bound and holding onto another piece of rope, having a noose around her neck, hopping to the edge with her feet bound (is that onto one foot only?) and her mouth gagged, she also was holding onto the long roper or had it over her shoulder and there wasn't enough slack in that long rope even given all that that it made a trail?

I just can't see the 11" in the dust either for all the reasons already mentioned and those dimension would only fit exactly at her waistline not her hips or chest.

 

[time]

Feb 2011 Rebecca's divorce final

thank you ... fits right before the demand from Dina.

 

[Quester]

Actually, I have no idea who actually called. I was responding to a poster who stated that one would not be hysterical if they had not actually witnessed the accident occurring.

I am not too certain about too many things in this case. I do think that anyone under the circumstances would be hysterical, whether or not they saw the actual incident occur.

I am certain that I need a lot more than conversation(s) in January to convince me that Rebecca was depressed enough to commit suicide.

I would also like to know why certain, imho, crucial evidence pertaining to Rebecca, was left out of the PC.

BBM - Sorry SunnieRN - I didn't mean to single you out. :seeya:


I should have phrased my previous question as follows:

How can WE be absolutely certain that it was the 13 year old, so called sister of RN, who placed the 911 call?

 

[scorekeeper]

they can also ask the trainers and staff at the gym if Rebecca ever used or uses tape for the shins/legs.

heck, they didn't acknowledge that she had been recently working out. For some reason they were not reading the newspaper or watching the news....we knew she was still exercising from our searches.......

WTH were they doing during those 7 weeks......playing tiddlywinks?:great:

 

[scorekeeper]

It almost sounds as if someone is reading here.:seeya:

It sure hasn't been LE

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[scorekeeper]

Has the autopsy report been released yet? An earlier poster said it was going to be released today.

 

[Morag]

I wonder if there was a line of dust on her torso from the balcony rail?

 

[SunnieRN]

they can also ask the trainers and staff at the gym if Rebecca ever used or uses tape for the shins/legs.

That would have meant that LE talked to the gym, trainers and employees of the gym, and not relied on hearsay that was 6 months old.:innocent:

 

[Quester]

9/6 ROL: [JS] Was Telling People Girlfriend Killed Herself On Day Her Body Was Found

... [RZ]'s sister ... "[JS] told my husband, on the day that [RZ] died, that she had killed herself.

"When my husband had told me what happened ... I knew there was no way that was true.

"[JS] told [RN] not to visit [the hospital], because he wanted to avoid a confrontation between [RZ] and [DS] ..."

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/09/jonah-shacknai-telling-people-girlfriend-rebecca-zahau-suicide-day-body-found

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I wonder if there was a line of dust on her torso from the balcony rail?

They did say the bottom of her feet were dirty.

IMO

 

[CuriousHousewife]

Radar Online? Really?

 

[Quester]

9/6 azfamily.com: [RZ]'s family wants case reopened in wake of new autopsy details

Such a suicide, said attorney Anne Bremner, is unprecedented.

“There’s never been a suicide like this in history -- of a woman, naked, binding her own hands behind her back, [binding] her feet, and throwing herself over a balcony,” she said. “Never.”

Bremner says a message painted on a bedroom door near where [RN] was found is inconsistent with suicide.

That message reportedly read, "She saved him can you save her?"

The meaning of that note remains a mystery, but Bremner said she and [RZ]’s family know what it’s not.

“That note that’s on the wall, on the door, is not a suicide note, and it’s not in her handwriting,” Bremner said.

http://www.azfamily.com/news/national/Zahaus-family-wants-case-reopened-129301783.html

 

[Morag]

They did say the bottom of her feet were dirty.

IMO

So some portion of her torso- waist or side- should have dust on it as well, if she leaned over in order to fling herself over.

 

[Steely Dan]

Re: MS’ fall

Wasn’t the 911 girl caller said to have been “hysterical” on the call?

Would she be "hysterical" if she didn't witness the fall?

IF GS was there and injured in the accident, would she have accompanied MS in the ambulance to have her wounds addressed?

And, the two females that were driven in the police car from the mansion to the Coronado hospital could have been RN and her, so called, sister?

TIA

BBM

If I walked around the corner and found what appeared to be a dead person on the floor I think I'd be hysterical too. JMO

Also, regarding hysteria during a 911 call, I believe that any 13 year old would have been hysterical under those circumstances, especially if they understood that the child wasn't breathing and didn't have a pulse. I don't think that is any indication of being a witness.

I'm 47 and as I just said I'd be hysterical.

I'm sorry......I would not paint over it.....wouldn't you take it down, sand it and then repaint????? My gosh, this guy is a millionaire......

Did the police paint over it......WHY?

Good question.

Has the autopsy report been released yet? An earlier poster said it was going to be released today.

I thought it had been sealed.

 

[coastal]

How in Heaven's name did Max's blood test positive for benzos?
I don't like the sound of that one little bit.
If he were positive for almost anything else but benzos, I could believe in a false positive (truth: I tested positive for methamphetamine once even though I'd never taken it :innocent but benzos? Dear God.

They'd better have checked again!

 

[deanna82437]

This page, even though it would be considered a blog, I guess, seems very much consistent with the facts known here. She has a simple timeline which gives some pertinent dates and info for anyone interested. She is from Arizona so may have a particular interest in this case.

http://kims3003.hubpages.com/hub/Who-is-Jonah-Shaknai-Who-Killed-Rebecca-Nalepa-Zahau

 

[scorekeeper]

Calls seeking comment to Jonah Shacknai weren't immediately returned

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...rlfriend-rebecca-zahau-suicide-day-body-found

Oh, yeah......can't wait to read the transcript from that call!! I hope they are calling every hour!! If radaronline is expecting a callback, they are going to be

:waiting::waiting::waiting:

Better go ahead and call the PR firm; JS is probably busy back at work.....

wonder if he had his eye on another young lady??? Doesn't seem the type to go without a partner for long....

 

[time]

I wonder if there was a line of dust on her torso from the balcony rail?

You, my friend, are now officially dubbed Sherlock Morag!

 

[elfie]

I really hope it's a mistake (in the article) and the message has not been painted over. Since police removed the door how could they paint it over?

I hope it's a mistake and that a photoshopping white out has been confused for an actual over-painting. Although, black bars are normally used for censored info. Hmmm.

 

[CuriousHousewife]

How in Heaven's name did Max's blood test positive for benzos?
I don't like the sound of that one little bit.
If he were positive for almost anything else but benzos, I could believe in a false positive (truth: I tested positive for methamphetamine once even though I'd never taken it :innocent but benzos? Dear God.

They'd better have checked again!

If he had ADHD or some kind of sleeping disorder, it's possible he was rx'd benzos. They *are* used in children, and don't have to be very high doses to help with sleep, but stay in the system for many days.

Some medications that are commonly known to cause false positives: Tylenol PM, some antidepressants and other medications containing Benadryl, and the list goes on.