First off, Rebecca was an optometry technician. She was not a surgical technician or a recovery nurse. Stating that she knew CPR or was trained in CPR, may or may not be true. Go into an opticians office and ask the personnel there if they are trained and what kind of course and when they were trained.
There are first responder courses, given to the general public and there are medical personnel courses, which are a lot more detailed. If Rebecca worked with church youth groups, as stated in a very early thread, she may have had basic cpr training, but how long ago?
Also, the past two years have brought about a huge change in cpr for the general public. They are teaching compressions only, with no rescue breathing and this is what 911 operators are telling people to do. For a CA example, look up Brittney Murphey and see what transpired on the 911 call.
There is also a good samaritan law, so that untrained people can render aide to a victim and are not held liable for the intervention not working, or if intervention is unsuccessful.
U til it is proven that Rebecca was properly trained, it is unfair to ASSUME she was and chose not to try and help Max, which by the way, we know is not true as LE states she was performing CPR when EMT's arrived.
Also, it took EMT's 25, yes twenty five minutes to get Max's heart restarted. That is with MORE than 1 person and equipement. This is tremendous and in my mind states that Rebecca must have done a good, fine job for them to keep trying for such a long time.
He had an injury to his spinal cord that prevented breathing. CPR isn't necessarily going to be successful in fixing that. So that doesn't prove the CPR wasn't started right away. I mean, how long did paramedics worked on him before he started breathing again?
Very true jjenny. Great points imho.
I think it isn't all that easy to snag a billionaire. Just a guess since I never tried. Granted, she was young and attractive but so are a lot of other women that age.
Was the babysitting all that difficult? Cooking breakfast? The three children all primarily resided with their mothers.
If RN had problems with anyone, maybe she was the source of the problem? Blaming everyone else gets stale after awhile.
JMO
Well according to posts that some have made, yes, the child care was that difficult and more, as she was faulted for daring to go to the bathroom and leaving Max alone. Again imho based on the amount of posts stating such.
If she did it incorrectly I highly doubt she did it on purpose. How long had Max been lying there before somebody found him and JN got to him? The fact that she tried to save him makes me think his death was most likely accidental. JMO
Exactly!! And we don't know if or when she was trained. 911 was coaching her, so I know she was at least trying.
I do know something about CPR. The heart's pumping action sends oxygenated blood to the other organs and it is circulated back to the heart to repeat the action, which is accomplished by heart pumping, lungs breathing. When that action is impaired, CPR must duplicate it.
So, yes, it can be assumed she performed CPR incorrectly OR there was a delay in starting CPR. I think there was a delay.
JMO
If you are a lay person and take a course, that is NOT what you will be taught. Believe me this goes against everything I have been taught, but the ARC must know more than I do. You will be taught rescue breathing and to notify 911 immediately. Also if there is a spinal injury, or if one is suspected, there is a certain way a person MUST be handled to not do additional damage. There is nothing that states this occurred in Max's case.
So you don't think that she may have given improper CPR and this had the same result as a delay in CPR? I think you are right she knew CPR - but was she capable of handling this situation? She may have panicked? In the diagram of the fall from LE wasn't Max face down? She would have had to turn him over - would she at all hesitate if she thought he had a spinal chord injury? Wasn't there some mention that Max has said 'Ocean' before passing out? If that's true who heard it? How long after a fall like that might you remain semi-conscious?
''I find it difficult to believe that he was conscious enough to say Ocean, but I could be incorrect. I remember that LE stated he was unconscious, without a pulse or breathing when found. There is no way he could talk under those circumstances.
OK, the amount and condition of the numerous contusions and lacerations on RZ concern me. Many are said to be blue. If Rebecca incurred all those when she (allegedly) swan dived off the balcony with a ligature around her neck impeding blood flow, how did she get all those blue contusions? And how about all the ones remarked as linear and closely grouped? I could accept some of these as a result of the bush/cactus below the balcony and/or perhaps the cement wall, but certainly not all of them, and certainly not all the linear ones. If Rebecca hit her head going over (as has been suggested by other posters), then her main contact with the building would have been her head with the balcony railing or supports as she went over. After that she would have been swinging freely and not bashing into the building/bushes and if she did, it wouldn't be over, and over, and over. So where the heck did all the abrasions and contusions come from? In all their varying shapes, sizes and colors? Fresh and red I could see. Blue? I need that explained to me. Also discusses hemorrhages without underlying skin changes. Hmmmm. Sunnie, can you help me here? I know she was alive when she went over, but for how long? Long enough to cause blue bruises???
Bruise - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Mechanism of bruise
My understanding of this is the blue ones have to be older than the red ones. How does that work in this case?
From page 11,
Back section -
BBM:
How many closely grouped linear items do you see in this picture?
http://www.sdsheriff.net/coronado/images/rzbalcony.jpg
I do not see anything in the picture of the balcony that could account for three thin linear components situated 1/4 inch apart. Did any of this stuff match up to the balcony railing or anything underneath the balcony? Shouldn't that be an important determination?
If Rebecca was only about 2 feet off the ground, why did AS need a table to cut her down? He was a tall man. He used a knife from the main house. So the main house wasn't locked.
The write up about the guest house is a joke. How is anyone supposed to figure out what that actually means? Were the clothes, make up remover and drink in the guest house or the main house? Was Rebecca changing and was surprised then and that was why she was nude? Clear beverage. What was it?!?! She didn't have alcohol in her system.
Their response to the questions in the autopsy is :Bennymonkey:
Great post!! Think about hitting your leg on the edge of a table.... You think, my gosh, that hurts, I bet I get a bruise. Sure enough a day or two later, you have a bruise. Get yout blood drawn. You don't get a bruise within minutes. Bruising takes time. A matter of hours to days. It depends on the injury of course, but we are not talking about getting hit with a bat or a sledgehammer here.
http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblo...e-zahau-suicide-ruling-a-dangerous-precedent/
The Zahau Suicide Ruling: A Dangerous Precedent?
By Walter Mencken | Posted September 5, 2011, 12:18 p.m.
This is just plain scary. As I posted yesterday, how many suicides were actually murders?
BBM
This has been mentioned numerous times and bothers me. Has this been documented anywhere that he told her it was over and I missed it? Anyone?
Not singling out MyBelle, just using her example of it being posted as such.
Never read it, only heard it here in posts. No links.
BBM
The autopsy report says NOTHING about AS loosening ANY of the ropes. It plainly states that he cut her down with a kitchen knife and attempted CPR after removing the t-shirt from her mouth. It does not say anywhere that he loosened any of the ropes or knots.
She had an uterine polyp. They will cause bleeding outside of your menstrual cycle. There WAS and IUD in place, it was identified in the report. It says her endometrium was smooth and red-purple, which would indicate she was not on her menstrual cycle.
Endometrial polyp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I honestly do not feel that a polyp that size would cause the amount of bleeding that is described here. I think this needs to be re examined thoroughly, since an ME could not determine the cause of the bleeding. Isn't that their job?
