CA - Rebecca Zahau Nalepa - suicide or murder? #10

[CalElliot]

This the source of Jonah Shacknai "security" or "investigator"....

http://www.eliteservicesusa.com/

 

[doubt]

bremner on dr. drew.

good for her.

threats of a lawsuit by js are merely an example of his bullying, narcissistic ways.

 

[tiredblondy]

Oh wow, just listened to a forensic rope expert on Dr. Drew. He said he has no idea how she could have done this.

 

[Cortne]

Maybe she thought she would tape her hands and feet at first..then switched to the ropes?
They probably would have found the used tape tho..


Thinking out loud

I just dont want to think anybody could have been so evil to do this to her or anybody.

Bremner and DrD drive me nuts. Lol

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I think Roy Black made the most sense.

IMO

 

[TorisMom003]

Why would Jonah hire private security? After all, according to him Rebecca killed herself and if anyone had anything to do with Max's death his family blamed Rebecca. Unless of course Jonah was afraid that her family wouldn't buy the BS story of suicide and they might go after Jonah because of what he did, had done or knew who had done it. If Jonah is to be believed that he was positive that Rebecca killed herself there would be no threat to him or his family for him to need private security.

MOO

 

[tiredblondy]

I can see why he hired private security with his son mysteriously falling with no eye witnesses and then losing his girlfriend too.

He probably thought someone was stalking him and the ones closest to him.

IMO

That would seem an appropriate conclusion...some of us have wondered the same thing. Wonder if he still has these security guards?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

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"Ironclad" may have started with this article, then spead everywhere:"A source close to the situation tells RadarOnline.com: "Rebecca killed herself. That is what the investigation determined. There was no foul play, and the evidence is ironclad that Rebecca killed herself."
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...-girlfriend-rebecca-zahau-death-ruled-suicide

Just interesting article where RN trainer says she was planning a party on Tuesday night..."Another witness — a fitness trainer at Zahau’s gym — said that on the Saturday before her death, Zahau was planning a party at the mansion for Tuesday night. Police initially received reports from neighbors that a party took place on Tuesday night, or at least loud music was heard, the day after Shacknai’s son Max took his fatal fall down the house stairs.
http://www.bnet.com/blog/drug-busin...to-the-rope-the-party-and-the-reputation/9243

"We concluded beyond a shadow of the doubt, that neither Jonah or Dina (Max's mother, and Jonah's ex-wife) were at the house that night. Jonah and Dina were at the hospital at Max's bedside, or at the Ronald McDonald house, across the street from the hospital," Lt. Nesbit told RadarOnline.com.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...iego-police-willing-reopen-case-ruled-suicide

 

[TorisMom003]

They also concluded that Rebecca comitted suicide and yet there is plenty of evidence to suggest otherwise. If LE is so sure of their "ironclad" decisions then perhaps they should present everything to the media instead of cherry picking what they want to present.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

That would seem an appropriate conclusion...some of us have wondered the same thing. Wonder if he still has these security guards?

Probably so since Anne and the Z family have made the media rounds insinuating he or Dina had something to do with Rebecca's death.

Lot of crazies out there.

IMO

 

[Winnts]

I just love Dr Drew. He's not a sensationalist and is a logical thinker.

 

[Annie]

They want to make a big deal of the fact that only her DNA was on the rope. Of course her DNA was on the rope. It was around her feet, hands, and neck. But that doesn't mean she was the one who tied the rope and put it there. It could have come from the contact with her skin. Someone could have worn gloves to keep from leaving DNA. I believe this was not a suicide and think there was too big a hurry to get the case closed. The question is why the hurry? Who was behind that decision?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Why would Jonah hire private security? After all, according to him Rebecca killed herself and if anyone had anything to do with Max's death his family blamed Rebecca. Unless of course Jonah was afraid that her family wouldn't buy the BS story of suicide and they might go after Jonah because of what he did, had done or knew who had done it. If Jonah is to be believed that he was positive that Rebecca killed herself there would be no threat to him or his family for him to need private security.

MOO

I never saw any articles where he or Dina blamed Rebecca for Max's death.

I think when it first happened it looked like a suicide and he may have known just how much stress she was really under so he assumed it was a suicide at that time, imo. So I dont find it odd that he told the family that at the time.

IMO

 

[scorekeeper]

Has everyone seen the article that says that JS hired his own private investigator in the wake of these incidents? here it is:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...e-investigator-after-max-rebecca-zahau-deaths

I researched the named company he hired and they are not private investigators, they are private SECURITY. This is a phony cover that even encourages the idea that JS wanted to know what had happened. This was not the case and inaccurately reported. I guess you can't expect much more from radaronline.

Why would Jonah hire private security? After all, according to him Rebecca killed herself and if anyone had anything to do with Max's death his family blamed Rebecca. Unless of course Jonah was afraid that her family wouldn't buy the BS story of suicide and they might go after Jonah because of what he did, had done or knew who had done it. If Jonah is to be believed that he was positive that Rebecca killed herself there would be no threat to him or his family for him to need private security.

MOO

I wonder if JS had received previous threats? Or full of himself or trying to outsmart LE......what's better than saying, 'I got some threatening phone calls but sorry deleted them'.....I bet you can see him leaving the hospital to go meet with LE and 'discuss' his suicide theory....

 

[oceanblueeyes]

They want to make a big deal of the fact that only her DNA was on the rope. Of course her DNA was on the rope. It was around her feet, hands, and neck. But that doesn't mean she was the one who tied the rope and put it there. It could have come from the contact with her skin. Someone could have worn gloves to keep from leaving DNA. I believe this was not a suicide and think there was too big a hurry to get the case closed. The question is why the hurry? Who was behind that decision?

I dont think almost two months is a short investigation.

They tested the ropes in 11 different places.

Some of the places where they tested were where the knots were tied.

IMO

 

[SunnieRN]

I wonder if JS had received previous threats? Or full of himself or trying to outsmart LE......what's better than saying, 'I got some threatening phone calls but sorry deleted them'.....I bet you can see him leaving the hospital to go meet with LE and 'discuss' his suicide theory....

I would imagine that JS has a good reason for hiring a security company. We are just not privy to the information as to why.:innocent:

 

[Peaceful]

RZ AR:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...TItOWM1Mi00NGE4LWEyZDgtMjc3OWUxZTYzYmY5&hl=en

MS AR:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...DctZGRjMy00ODVkLTk1YWItODAxZjAxMzE5OTVl&hl=en

Thank you all so very much! I love websleuths!

 

[SunnieRN]

Maybe this would be a good next step.


http://www.co.adams.il.us/coroner/inquest.htm

Does anyone know if coroners inquests take place in CA?

 

[SophieRose]

In reading MS autopsy report, it says that Rebecca didn't know if she found him faceup or facedown and turned him over. I find it strange that she didn't remember.

 

[gemvt]

In Max's autopsy it says that Rebecca went to the restroom after last seeing Max in the kitchen. She then doesn't hear from him for 10 to 20 minutes. Then she said she heard the loud noise and found him at the bottom of the stairwell.

Let me stress that I am not blaming Rebecca for Max's accident. But if I heard that the person responsible for watching my 6 year old son had him out of her sight for 10 to 20 minutes, I would be beyond livid. I would also question her entire story, to be frank.

I hate that Rebecca's sister is now saying that Max loved Rebecca so much and would go home and tell Dina just how much he loved her. This is getting very ugly.

MOO