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If anyone else like me missed DA Hochman’s comments after his arraignment and are interested…

 
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The judge told Reiner to return to court April 29 for the scheduling of a preliminary hearing where prosecutors will present evidence and a new judge will decide if it’s enough for Reiner to go to trial.

The case will now be handled by longtime Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Sam Ohta. He has had many prominent murder, manslaughter and public corruption cases in his courtroom in recent years, but none have drawn the national media attention this case has.

https://wgntv.com/news/ap-rob-reine...may-enter-plea-in-the-killing-of-his-parents/
 
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"His legal representation now rests with a court-appointed public defender.

TMZ reported that sources connected to Romy and Jake Reiner said
there is no plan to hire another private criminal defense attorney.

A public defender was appointed last month.

At the time,
it appeared to be a temporary measure.

However,
on Monday, Deputy Public Defender Kimberly Greene appeared in court
and entered a not guilty plea on Nick's behalf."
 
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"His legal representation now rests with a court-appointed public defender.

TMZ reported that sources connected to Romy and Jake Reiner said
there is no plan to hire another private criminal defense attorney.

A public defender was appointed last month.

At the time,
it appeared to be a temporary measure.

However,
on Monday, Deputy Public Defender Kimberly Greene appeared in court
and entered a not guilty plea on Nick's behalf."
Thanks for linking, @Dotta . ^^^

Here's the other article from the non-Twitter site :


TMZ reported that
sources connected to Romy and Jake Reiner said there is no plan to hire another private criminal defense attorney.

Rbm.
So it's not certain that Jake and Romy hired Alan Jackson in the first place.
More double-speak from msm, it would appear ?

It's as if msm want to drag Nick's siblings' names into this, whether they want it or not.
Not surprised they didn't show up for his arraignment.

Can't believe how he's aged.
His eyes look like a shark, even now.
Scary, imo.

Life will go on for his siblings ... but will never be the same, and always painful, one would imagine.
So sorry for all who loved the Reiners.
Imo.
 
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Thanks for linking, @Dotta . ^^^

Here's the other article from the non-Twitter site :


TMZ reported that
sources connected to Romy and Jake Reiner said there is no plan to hire another private criminal defense attorney.

Rbm.
So it's not certain that Jake and Romy hired Alan Jackson in the first place.
More double-speak from msm, it would appear ?

It's as if msm want to drag Nick's siblings' names into this, whether they want it or not.
Not surprised they didn't show up for his arraignment.

Can't believe how he's aged.
His eyes look like a shark, even now.
Scary, imo.

Life will go on for his siblings ... but will never be the same, and always painful, one would imagine.
So sorry for all who loved the Reiners.
Imo.
I never believed that it was Romy or Jake who hired Jackson. All that was said was "family". I've always thought that it was a sibling of Rob or Michelle's who hired him.
 
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I wonder if the PD has decided that Nick's best shot is to plead not guilty and then try and get a plea deal?
Possibly, but I don't know how much of a deal he would get for Capital Murder charges. JMO
 
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I don't think he will. I think he rejected the Insanity label, and that's why his lawyer Jackson felt the need to quit. He couldn't defend him otherwise IMO.
Agreed and said the same thing a while ago about that being the reason Jason recused himself. In interviews Jackson plainly stated that Nick was not guilty. The only way NR is 'not guilty' is if he was psychotic and had a break with reality.

Or maybe the family member(s) who hired him decided not to bankroll such a costly defense. You know it will be a long and expensive battle that would be major $$$$$ for a private attorney of Jackson's caliber.

MOO
 
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I wonder if the PD has decided that Nick's best shot is to plead not guilty and then try and get a plea deal?
I think anything to do with plea deals would only come after defense has received all the evidence from the prosecution.

Step #1: See what they've got against him.

The bizarre thing with the previous lawyer/family statements was they were stating in public that he definately killed the victims, but he should not go to prison, just a mental institution "for life".

Which is extremely violating of his constitutional right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty, and sentenced by a judge, not his lawyer/family... IMO, he's not dumb, he knew that and told them where to put it.

JMO
 
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"His legal representation now rests with a court-appointed public defender.

TMZ reported that sources connected to Romy and Jake Reiner said
there is no plan to hire another private criminal defense attorney.

A public defender was appointed last month.

At the time,
it appeared to be a temporary measure.

However,
on Monday, Deputy Public Defender Kimberly Greene appeared in court
and entered a not guilty plea on Nick's behalf."
So if NR is eligible to be represented by a public defender, then I assume that he doesn't have access to any funds at this time. I wonder how AJ thought he was going to be paid. Perhaps at that earlier time, the family were still not sure how they wanted to proceed and started off with hiring AJ but then as they came to terms with what had happened, they made other decisions.
 
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So if NR is eligible to be represented by a public defender, then I assume that he doesn't have access to any funds at this time. I wonder how AJ thought he was going to be paid. Perhaps at that earlier time, the family were still not sure how they wanted to proceed and started off with hiring AJ but then as they came to terms with what had happened, they made other decisions.
Or if they assumed he’d pled NGRI and they felt that was at least admitting guilt in some way.

Maybe NR made it clear he was only interested in pleading NG.
 
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I think anything to do with plea deals would only come after defense has received all the evidence from the prosecution.

Step #1: See what they've got against him.

The bizarre thing with the previous lawyer/family statements was they were stating in public that he definately killed the victims, but he should not go to prison, just a mental institution "for life".

Which is extremely violating of his constitutional right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty, and sentenced by a judge, not his lawyer/family... IMO, he's not dumb, he knew that and told them where to put it.

JMO

I can't find any articles where Nick Reiner's siblings state that:

Nick Reiner definitely killed our parents and should get sentenced to a mental institution for life.

Do you have any links? Thank You.
 
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I think anything to do with plea deals would only come after defense has received all the evidence from the prosecution.

Step #1: See what they've got against him.

The bizarre thing with the previous lawyer/family statements was they were stating in public that he definately killed the victims, but he should not go to prison, just a mental institution "for life".

Which is extremely violating of his constitutional right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty, and sentenced by a judge, not his lawyer/family... IMO, he's not dumb, he knew that and told them where to put it.

JMO
I agree that statement was totally suss from Jackson. I've personally never seen a lawyer who has withdrawn from a case do such a thing. :eek:
 
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Or if they assumed he’d pled NGRI and they felt that was at least admitting guilt in some way.

Maybe NR made it clear he was only interested in pleading NG.
I also suggested the theory that AJ withdrew because NR wouldn't agree to go with a NGBI plea early on. AJ has seen the evidence the State has against NR and probably knew that was the only way he wouldn't get LWOP or the DP, perhaps he even truly believes it himself.

Maybe NR is not mentally competent enough to agree or even to enter a plea at this time? IDK

MOO
 
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I can't find any articles where Nick Reiner's siblings state that:

Nick Reiner definitely killed our parents and should get sentenced to a mental institution for life.

Do you have any links? Thank You.
I was of course, paraphrasing, there were no quotation marks in my statement.

However, in case you weren't following the case when it broke, I have gone back to the discussion on this forum:

"Romy is the one who called the police and told them her brother Nick -- who'd been living at the house -- was "dangerous" and should be considered a suspect." Nick Reiner's Attorney Alan Jackson Arrives at Rob Reiner Family Home, on Video

Diagnosed with Schizophrenia, Meds Made Him 'Dangerous'

TMZ executive producer Harvey Levin told Fox & Friends on Monday that the alleged killer is 'not competent to stand trial right now'. Nick Reiner 'almost childlike in jail' after parents' alleged murders, Fox Nation documentary reveals

"He took their parents, now should he take their inheritance so he can get free from the consequences? That's what everyone's reaction has been,' a source told the Daily Mail."
 
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I also suggested the theory that AJ withdrew because NR wouldn't agree to go with a NGBI plea early on. AJ has seen the evidence the State has against NR and probably knew that was the only way he wouldn't get LWOP or the DP, perhaps he even truly believes it himself.

Maybe NR is not mentally competent enough to agree or even to enter a plea at this time? IDK

MOO
He just did enter a plea on Monday. He's been arraigned. If he wasn't mentally competent to do so, it would have come up by then. I'm not taking Harvey Levin/TMZ's word for it- they are a tabloid. Lori Vallow was actually ruled incompetent for awhile. I really think Nick doesn't want the stigma of being labeled insane regardless of whether he actually is or not. He's in charge of how he pleads unless someone else had power of attorney over him. The other possible reason for Jackson leaving the case so quickly was if the judge had ruled a conflict of interest, since he previously represented other family members.

From this article over a month ago: "[Jackson] says [Nick] is not guilty. What he's really saying is, not guilty by reason of insanity. And I think that's gonna be the plea in this case, because there's no way he'll plead not guilty." Yet that's exactly what he did- plead Not Guilty, not NGRI.
 
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The court site is finally updated with new hearing date.

Future Proceedings
Date Time Type Result Location Department
04/29/2026 08:30AM Preliminary Hearing Setting
Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center Dept. - 108

Past Proceedings
Date Time Type Result Location Department
02/23/2026 08:30AM Arraignment and Plea
Held - Proceedings Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center Dept. - 30

link: Superior Court of Los Angeles County
 
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He just did enter a plea on Monday. He's been arraigned. If he wasn't mentally competent to do so, it would have come up by then. I'm not taking Harvey Levin/TMZ's word for it- they are a tabloid. Lori Vallow was actually ruled incompetent for awhile. I really think Nick doesn't want the stigma of being labeled insane regardless of whether he actually is or not. He's in charge of how he pleads unless someone else had power of attorney over him. The other possible reason for Jackson leaving the case so quickly was if the judge had ruled a conflict of interest, since he previously represented other family members.

From this article over a month ago: "[Jackson] says [Nick] is not guilty. What he's really saying is, not guilty by reason of insanity. And I think that's gonna be the plea in this case, because there's no way he'll plead not guilty." Yet that's exactly what he did- plead Not Guilty, not NGRI.
Thanks for that @LinasK , I didn't know he had represented other family members. Surely he would have known that it would be a conflict before he agreed to take the case though?

Mentally competent or not, I can definitely picture a defiant NR as a pleading Not Guilty, prove it, kind of guy.

jmo
 
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I was of course, paraphrasing, there were no quotation marks in my statement.

However, in case you weren't following the case when it broke, I have gone back to the discussion on this forum:

"Romy is the one who called the police and told them her brother Nick -- who'd been living at the house -- was "dangerous" and should be considered a suspect." Nick Reiner's Attorney Alan Jackson Arrives at Rob Reiner Family Home, on Video

Diagnosed with Schizophrenia, Meds Made Him 'Dangerous'

TMZ executive producer Harvey Levin told Fox & Friends on Monday that the alleged killer is 'not competent to stand trial right now'. Nick Reiner 'almost childlike in jail' after parents' alleged murders, Fox Nation documentary reveals

"He took their parents, now should he take their inheritance so he can get free from the consequences? That's what everyone's reaction has been,' a source told the Daily Mail."

Thanks for the information.
 
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I also suggested the theory that AJ withdrew because NR wouldn't agree to go with a NGBI plea early on. AJ has seen the evidence the State has against NR and probably knew that was the only way he wouldn't get LWOP or the DP, perhaps he even truly believes it himself.

Maybe NR is not mentally competent enough to agree or even to enter a plea at this time? IDK

MOO

I thought the siblings quit paying his attorney so Nick had to get court appointed representation. Now I hear Nick has a new private attorney so I assume the Rob Reiner Estate is paying Nick's legal fees.

I could be wrong and am happy to have posters post the correct information if I get it wrong.

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