CANADA Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #19

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The statues above are African rather than Caucasian. Was this a racially motivated murder?

Same as dotr’s quote

5 enduring mysteries of the Barry and Honey Sherman murders

After nearly five years, the homicide case involving pharma billionaires continues to perplex investigators.

www.pharmavoice.com

Why were they in that eerie pose?​

When the Shermans’ real estate agent found their bodies, she wasn’t just struck by the fact that they were dead. She also noticed that they were posed in a way that was strangely similar to two life-sized sculptures of human figures in the couple’s home.

Why would someone take the time to carefully position the bodies like a piece of art the couple owned?

As part of his investigation for the Toronto Star, Donovan discoveredthat the figures were created in the 70s by a “junk sculptor” named Leo Sewell who crafted his works from repurposed items.

The two sculptures made their way into the Sherman home through friends of the couple who stored them there. Although one of the Sherman children called them “creepy,” Honey must not have agreed. When the Shermans moved to a new home, she asked if she could keep the sculptures, and they became a permanent part of the family’s décor.

Donovan’s investigation into the origins of the sculptures did not reveal any answers as to why the scene was staged the way it was. But, Donovan noted, “I can’t see how it doesn’t mean something.”

 

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I still feel that the JUNK SCULPTURES are significant. A statement perhaps. “You are billionaires but you are nothing but junk”? “You make fun of junkies but look at you now.” JMO

 

[dotr]

re-post refresher.rbbm

Barry and Honey Sherman’s bodies were found posed like the sculptures in their basement

The positioning of the bodies of murder victims Barry and Honey Sherman was eerily similar to a tableau of two life-sized, human-shaped art figures in a basement room near the

www.toronto.com

''The two sculptures that found their way into the Sherman hands were originally displayed in the Eaton’s store at College and Yonge streets, which closed in 1977 when the Toronto Eaton Centre opened. Friends of the Shermans purchased the sculptures and kept them in their Toronto home; when they moved to the U.S., Honey asked if she could have the sculptures. The art pieces moved houses with the Shermans and eventually, when the house on Old Colony Road was built in 1985, became a feature of the 12,000-square-foot home.

The figures are male and female. The male sculpture’s left leg is crossed over its right leg. One of the Sherman children described the sculptures to the Star as “creepy,” adding, “We all hated those things.” A regular visitor to the home recently used the same word — “creepy” — to describe the figures.

Sewell told the Star that he created the sculptures in a seated position, and that the arms and legs were not movable. Shown a photo of the sculptures in the Sherman’s basement room, Sewell said they “need repair” but otherwise appeared to be as they were when he constructed them in the 1970s.''


''Entering the vestibule outside the pool, with the clients and the other realtor in tow, the realtor made the grisly discovery. Of note, most of the basement lights were off when the realtors and clients had made their way downstairs. Also, the main lights were off in the pool room, although there was a glow in the room because the underwater lights of the pool were on.''

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

So H was the one who wanted the sculptures in her home. Copied from the post above

The two sculptures that found their way into the Sherman hands were originally displayed in the Eaton’s store at College and Yonge streets, which closed in 1977 when the Toronto Eaton Centre opened. Friends of the Shermans purchased the sculptures and kept them in their Toronto home; when they moved to the U.S., Honey asked if she could have the sculptures. The art pieces moved houses with the Shermans and eventually, when the house on Old Colony Road was built in 1985, became a feature of the 12,000-square-foot home.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Here are some samples of other junk sculptures from Eaton‘s in Toronto which are not creepy.

 

[WINDSOR]

No_Stone_Unturned said "Why were they in that eerie pose?"​

The perpetrator(s) might have been mocking the Shermans, 'you are no more than junk sculptures'.

 

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No_Stone_Unturned said "Why were they in that eerie pose?"​

The perpetrator(s) might have been mocking the Shermans, 'you are no more than junk sculptures'.

Yes, for sure. But the killer had to know about the statues and that they were crafted from junk. The average person walking through would not know the story of the statues.

 

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Also why were they hanging at the pool? Water = cleansing?

 

[FromGermany1]

re-post refresher.rbbm
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Barry and Honey Sherman’s bodies were found posed like the sculptures in their basement

The positioning of the bodies of murder victims Barry and Honey Sherman was eerily similar to a tableau of two life-sized, human-shaped art figures in a basement room near the

www.toronto.com

''The two sculptures that found their way into the Sherman hands were originally displayed in the Eaton’s store at College and Yonge streets, which closed in 1977 when the Toronto Eaton Centre opened. Friends of the Shermans purchased the sculptures and kept them in their Toronto home; when they moved to the U.S., Honey asked if she could have the sculptures. The art pieces moved houses with the Shermans and eventually, when the house on Old Colony Road was built in 1985, became a feature of the 12,000-square-foot home.

The figures are male and female. The male sculpture’s left leg is crossed over its right leg. One of the Sherman children described the sculptures to the Star as “creepy,” adding, “We all hated those things.” A regular visitor to the home recently used the same word — “creepy” — to describe the figures.

Sewell told the Star that he created the sculptures in a seated position, and that the arms and legs were not movable. Shown a photo of the sculptures in the Sherman’s basement room, Sewell said they “need repair” but otherwise appeared to be as they were when he constructed them in the 1970s.''


''Entering the vestibule outside the pool, with the clients and the other realtor in tow, the realtor made the grisly discovery. Of note, most of the basement lights were off when the realtors and clients had made their way downstairs. Also, the main lights were off in the pool room, although there was a glow in the room because the underwater lights of the pool were on.''

Even dramatically staged with the pool light ..... It makes sense, that it had a certain meaning. Only WHICH meaning? As if a double murder wouldn't have been enough for the shock of viewers and perhaps punishment - for whome exactly?

 

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Yes, FromGermany1 and punishment for WHAT exactly? To shock whom? Payback for what? A statement about what? I'm losing faith in the NW guy. This is way too personal to even hire a hitman. To me it feels as though the killer(s) wanted to do this themselves. JMO

 

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sorry, double post

 

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Although I believe B and H's bodies were staged, the major differences in how they were staged, in comparison to the actual sculptures, makes me think that there was no intentional connection. The only similarity seems to be that BS had one leg crossed over another, and KD's source said it was the wrong leg compared to the male sculpture (right leg crossed over, not the left leg). We also don't know if his leg was crossed over dramatically at the knee, like the male sculpture, it could have been near his ankle.

If there was an intentional staging to emulate the sculptures, it would have been easy to cross one of HS's legs like the female sculpture, but that wasn't done. Or maybe prop them up in a more erect sitting position like the sculptures, or remove the coat keeping BS's arms behind him, instead of resting his hands in front of him like the sculpture. There are too many differences, and BS having one leg crossed isn't enough for me to seriously consider that the staging is connected or meaningful to the sculptures. JMO

"There are similarities and differences in the positioning of the Sherman bodies and the sculptures.

Both are seated, with the male sculpture and Barry Sherman seated on the left of the female sculpture and Honey Sherman, respectively.

In the case of the male sculpture and Barry Sherman, both had one leg crossed over the other. The sculpture’s left leg was crossed over the right. Neither the police nor the family’s private investigation team have publicly said which of Barry’s legs was crossed over the other, but a Sherman private investigation source told the Star a year ago that his right leg was crossed over his left. In the case of the female sculpture and Honey Sherman, the female sculpture had one leg crossed, whereas Honey’s legs were in front of her and uncrossed."

Barry and Honey Sherman’s bodies were found posed like the sculptures in their basement

The positioning of the bodies of murder victims Barry and Honey Sherman was eerily similar to a tableau of two life-sized, human-shaped art figures in a basement room near the

www.toronto.com

 

[JDG]

Barry and Honey Sherman’s daughter pleads for help to solve parents’ murder

In her statement, Alexandra Krawczyk noted that the Sherman family’s $10 million reward “for information leading to a conviction” remains “available and is still unclaimed.”

www.thestar.com

 

[dotr]

Barry and Honey Sherman’s daughter pleads for help to solve parents’ murder

In her statement, Alexandra Krawczyk noted that the Sherman family’s $10 million reward “for information leading to a conviction” remains “available and is still unclaimed.”

www.thestar.com

From link, thank you! rbbm.

''One of the four children of slain billionaires Barry and Honey Sherman issued an emotional plea for help in solving her parents’ murder.

“Five years ago, on Dec. 13, 2017, my beloved parents, Honey and Barry Sherman, were brutally murdered in their Toronto home,” Alexandra Krawczyk said in a written statement. “So far there has been no justice for them and no closure for me and my family.”

“My heart is broken. My loss is immeasurable. My children have lost their grandparents. We miss their guidance, love, and wisdom,” Krawczyk said in her statement.''

In her statement, Krawczyk noted that the Sherman family’s $10 million reward “for information leading to a conviction” remains “available and is still unclaimed.”

The Star checked in with the police homicide unit this week to see if there were any plans to issue a statement on the fifth anniversary. Police said there are no plans but that “could change.”


''As the Star has previously reported, the Shermans’ son Jonathon said that his sister Alexandra believes he has something to do with the murders.
“I can tell you I was not involved,” Jonathon told the Star. He has hired a New York lawyer to help him search for clues leading to his parents’ killer or killers.''

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I'm still staying with my opinion that the bodies were meant to be replicas of the statues. Here are some reasons why the bodies differ from the statues:
1. It might have been difficult to pose dead bodies because they were too heavy/cumbersome to manipulate exactly as the statues.
2. The killer(s) might have forgotten which leg goes over the other leg.
3. The statues are African. Was the hanging with belts a symbol of lynching?
4. The posing is a message to someone from the killer(s).
5. This is a personal killing - or at least, meant to LOOK personal.

 

[dotr]

I'm still staying with my opinion that the bodies were meant to be replicas of the statues. Here are some reasons why the bodies differ from the statues:
1. It might have been difficult to pose dead bodies because they were too heavy/cumbersome to manipulate exactly as the statues.
2. The killer(s) might have forgotten which leg goes over the other leg.
3. The statues are African. Was the hanging with belts a symbol of lynching?
4. The posing is a message to someone from the killer(s).
5. This is a personal killing - or at least, meant to LOOK personal.

FWIW Discussion concerning the sculptures and the ''odd ducks''.

Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #13

Pharma giant and philanthropists Barry and Honey Sherman found dead Pharmaceutical giant Barry Sherman and his wife Honey Sherman were found dead in a home in Toronto’s York Mills neighbourhood on Friday afternoon, sources confirm. Emergency crews responded to a 9-1-1 medical...

www.websleuths.com

Who knew so many would see a connection between the various statues and the bodies of the Shermans?
In one linked report, KD said it was a worker in the home who made that connection, but when asked in a video who suggested it, KD hesitated and said it was a policewoman.
Speculation, imo, fwiw.

Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #13

Pharma giant and philanthropists Barry and Honey Sherman found dead Pharmaceutical giant Barry Sherman and his wife Honey Sherman were found dead in a home in Toronto’s York Mills neighbourhood on Friday afternoon, sources confirm. Emergency crews responded to a 9-1-1 medical...

www.websleuths.com

 

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I just had another thought after reading dotr’s post above. Perhaps it was pharma related. The statues were constructed from junk. Maybe someone thought Barry’s company created “junk pills” compared with the original patent versions. How many of us have used a drug that was the original but then the pharmacy gave us the cheaper generic version? I have. Perhaps the statues posing was a comment about creating “cheap meds”.

 

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It’s difficult to understand how/why windows would often be left open or unlocked when no one was home.

Barry and Honey Sherman’s bodies were found posed like the sculptures in their basement

The positioning of the bodies of murder victims Barry and Honey Sherman was eerily similar to a tableau of two life-sized, human-shaped art figures in a basement room near the

www.toronto.com

 

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The statues are not Caucasian, perhaps Honey insulted the wrong person.

Relative believes 'someone was making a statement' in murder of Barry and Honey Sherman, unsealed documents show

A cache of unsealed documents related to the murder of Barry and Honey Sherman is revealing new details about the investigation into the deaths of the Toronto billionaire couple, including an interview with one relative who believes 'someone was making a statement' in their killings.

toronto.ctvnews.ca

The Shermans were strong supporters of Israel and Honey was very vocal about being Jewish,” Shechtman said. “There were a lot of people of a certain ethnicity going through the house at a certain time and Honey would use phrases that were not politically correct."

 

[ldlager]

It’s difficult to understand how/why windows would often be left open or unlocked when no one was home.

Barry and Honey Sherman’s bodies were found posed like the sculptures in their basement

The positioning of the bodies of murder victims Barry and Honey Sherman was eerily similar to a tableau of two life-sized, human-shaped art figures in a basement room near the

www.toronto.com

In this case, painters had been working in the house and left window open to minimize the paint smell/fumes