CANADA Canada - Billionaire Couple Barry & Honey Sherman Murdered at Home, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #24

[ldlager]

By Michael Friscolanti 2018

https://macleans.ca/news/former-ceo-of-barry-shermans-drug-company-fights-back-in-pillow-talk-spy-suit/

''Born in England, Desai joined Apotex in 2003, serving as global head of R&D, then as chief operating officer, before Sherman selected him in August 2014 to take over as president and CEO. The two men clearly enjoyed a close relationship. In fact, it was Sherman who personally provided a $3.15-million mortgage—at zero interest, with no payment schedule—for the upscale Toronto home that Desai and his wife, Kalpna, purchased when they first moved to Canada. When the Shermans were killed, the full mortgage remained outstanding.''

Apotex CEO quits, former boss takes over, as drug maker reels from founder’s death

Dr. Jeremy Desai ‘resigned to pursue other opportunities.’ Jack Kay, co-founder and vice-chairman of Apotex, will return to the CEO role.

www.theglobeandmail.com

'Jan 26, 2018 — When the Desais moved to Toronto, Mr. Sherman personally lent the couple $3.15-million for their mortgage and is named as the chargee on the ...''

Thanks Dotr, you are the best!

 

[ldlager]

Fascinating. I’d missed the significance of that news story; thanks for sharing.

This is now speculation: it’s possible that Jeremy was among those who were asked to get traditional mortgages to float the money back temporarily to cover the AstraZenica judgment. It seems rather gauche to ask that of an employee, but it’s possible.

Jeremy was not supported by others at Apotex and the affair with its “pillow talk” lawsuit was the last straw. He told police that with Barry gone, he had lost his protection at the company.

EDITED TO ADD: if this is in the ITOs it is in the redacted section of Jeremy’s statement summary, making it potentially very significant. The redactions are on information that would tend to indicate the direction of the police investigation.

JK did not support JD’s alleged behaviour

 

[Ssschu]

There is a new article in the star today but it’s paywalled. It appears to say that the detective has no ideas and is playing blind in the investigation.

Once again, I have to wonder why they still only have one person investigating such a massive case. They need fresh eyes and multiple, more experienced investigators on this case. It's so clearly not a priority and there has to be a motive for not wanting it solved. IMO.

It's been said many times to follow the money in this case. Is some of the money gained by their deaths going under the table to someone with power in the Toronto Police or what?? Make it make sense!

 

[Charlot123]

ABSOLUTELY. There was literally no other reason at this point (unless Barry Sherman was a Mossad secret agent and knew something very dangerous but I think that's pretty unlikely.

A nr 10 or 11 richest man in Canada, his wife a major supporter of the Jewish cause, him and her close to the top politicians in the country. What is the use for Mossad to remove them? Unless he got bonkers and decided to be a double/triple agent, but unlikely.

 

[Charlot123]

I am thinking that Barry was emotional and impulsive. With his money or inheritance, everyone knew what he was getting. But imagine that he had another child on the side. He surely could have. Now, that child could have tipped the balance. If that got known, this could have been enough of a reason. For everyone standing to inherit, not only the family.

 

[AndrewM71]

I am thinking that Barry was emotional and impulsive. With his money or inheritance, everyone knew what he was getting. But imagine that he had another child on the side. He surely could have. Now, that child could have tipped the balance. If that got known, this could have been enough of a reason. For everyone standing to inherit, not only the family.

Wouldn’t this side child start an action against the estate which would quickly become public information?

 

[FromGermany1]

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2023-sherman-apotex-billionaire-murder/

You can't read it often enough, MOO.

 

[dotr]

Wouldn’t this side child start an action against the estate which would quickly become public information?

At one time, there was a woman in France who made a claim to be BSs daughter, never found further info on that, but assume that claim was squashed, imo, speculation.

MANDEL: French woman claiming to be Barry Sherman's daughter says police ignoring her info

She went to court to compel Toronto Police to investigate someone she believes is a potential murder suspect.

torontosun.com

Apr 29, 2023 rbbm.
'A French woman claiming to be Barry Sherman’s biological daughter has accused Toronto Police of ignoring a valuable lead she has about a potential suspect in the murders of the billionaire and his wife more than five years ago.'

'Christelle Chaubet, an English teacher in Toulouse, has gone all the way to Ontario’s Divisional Court to compel Toronto Police to investigate her allegations. But she has failed again.'

'On Nov. 5, 2022, the OIPRD found Chaubet’s complaints were frivolous.'

 

[WINDSOR]

We can speculate forever about what kind of secret life Barry might have had, Mossad agent, Bigamist, Monster and so on. I believe that these sorts of 'what-if' theories will lead us nowhere.

When Jack Kay said 'follow the money', most of us, myself included, focused on the heirs who inherited the estate.

I believe the Night Walker is likely directly involved with the murders. The fact nobody in the neighbourhood, no one in the Sherman circle of family, friends and business associates have identified him, and the Night Walker himself, has not come forward, points to his involvement.

Unless the Night Walker killed the Sherman's for his own reasons, he must have been hired by someone. This is where JK's guidance 'to follow the money' may be most prescient.

If the Night Walker was paid with crypto currency, it might be impossible to follow the transaction. But somewhere or somehow that crypto currency was likely converted into a traditional currency or a tangible asset. Could that be the trail to follow?

Based on the latest Toronto Star article, it appears that Detective Kim is playing in the 1962 Grey Cup, aka the Fog Bowl.

MOO

 

[fadedglitter]

I will never understand why “follow the money; look at all these risky investments with criminals” gets turned into “the heirs must be guilty”.

 

[ldlager]

I will never understand why “follow the money; look at all these risky investments with criminals” gets turned into “the heirs must be guilty”.

IMO “Follow the Money” really means who benefitted from BOTH Sherman’s being murdered?

 

[fadedglitter]

IMO “Follow the Money” really means who benefitted from BOTH Sherman’s being murdered?

Jack gets to decide what he meant by that.

Jack says follow the money and goes on and on about Barry’s involvement with seedy characters. Not the heirs.

 

[fadedglitter]

duplicate post, sorry!

 

[Charlot123]

Just came to my mind…

We may be showing poor understanding of the situation when assuming that someone hired “an ex-Mossad man” to kill Barry and Honey.

True, it was done quietly and perhaps, professionally, but first, Honey and Barry lived like an open book security-wise for their level of wealth and also, during the last few days, things appeared to be in a certain disarray in their mind.

But mostly, I suspect there is no such thing as “ex” Mossad men. Or any “ex”, for that matter. I read several books about intelligence services and came to the conclusion that “retirement” just means, “your job is taken by someone else and you are pensioned, not salaried”. But such people never “leave” in practice. So imagine that someone hired an assassin. An ex-Mossad man’s loyalty would still lie with Mossad and the state of Israel, and they won’t undertake a paid killing of a Canadian billionaire of Jewish origin without at least considering what it would do to the state of Israel. By the same token, two big pharmaceutical Jewish-owned companies would be better than one, so unless Barry was running his company into the ground, or planning to sell it to a Jewish enemy, he would be safe there.

If the killings were targeting their personal wealth, even harder for someone growing up in a safe Canadian world to hire an “ex-Mossad”. They’d get in touch with some rogue person posing as an “ex-intelligence”, but that’s all. There is no such thing as “ex-intelligence”. This is why I am crossing such people off my list.

Yet the NW looks somewhat “professionally”, it is true. Could be an ex-athlete, they gain weight rapidly.

Since BS behaved in a bizarre way and some alleged children emerged on the side, could Honey hire a PI to check what was going on with Barry, but things went astray?

 

[WINDSOR]

I will never understand why “follow the money; look at all these risky investments with criminals” gets turned into “the heirs must be guilty”.

Because, historically heirs have murdered to get their inheritance. A very common motive for murder, even in this day and age.

The staging and the method of murder point to some sort of personal or emotional relationship between the Sherman's and the perpetrator(s). Usually 'business' killings are devoid of such details.

MOO

 

[MerlinFalcon]

In my mind, Jonathan and his business partner AP are at the top of the list. They owed Barry money and neither made any move to pay it back.

 

[Charlot123]

Because, historically heirs have murdered to get their inheritance. A very common motive for murder, even in this day and age.

The staging and the method of murder point to some sort of personal or emotional relationship between the Sherman's and the perpetrator(s). Usually 'business' killings are devoid of such details.

MOO

OK, a totally different situation given the “personal aspect”… could Barry “play Schwarzenegger” with one of hired help, now or in the past, and the person was married? (Since Schwarzenegger’s history is chewed by all magazines, we can use the term, I think).

Then there is an angry husband, who probably heard about Holly being abrupt with hired help, and now Barry insulted the jealous husband. Or maybe, Barry did something and refused to pay?

 

[FromGermany1]

OK, a totally different situation given the “personal aspect”… could Barry “play Schwarzenegger” with one of hired help, now or in the past, and the person was married? (Since Schwarzenegger’s history is chewed by all magazines, we can use the term, I think).

Then there is an angry husband, who probably heard about Holly being abrupt with hired help, and now Barry insulted the jealous husband. Or maybe, Barry did something and refused to pay?

I understand, what you mean, but I think, BS was the well-behaved nerdy husband, who wasn't even at home to behave unfaithful. He was working day and night, and in between he slept for a few hours in his own bed. Afaik, the staff only worked part-time. An encounter was hardly possible, I think. And then there was Honey, who certainly had eagle eyes all the time, I suspect.

 

[Charlot123]

In my mind, Jonathan and his business partner AP are at the top of the list. They owed Barry money and neither made any move to pay it back.

If whoever ordered the hit was smart enough not to change it financially for those on the receiving end of the Shermans’ generosity, I can see why no one is super invested in solving the case.

Plus Apotex itself…I wonder if Barry was getting old and either “not showing old business acumen” or “his type A impulsivity and fast thinking that was so helpful to him in younger years, was working against him in later life”. Then his death and Apotex changing guidance could be a plus (or at least, not a minus) to the company, to investors and to Canada.

On the other hand, the case may not be solved merely because there is no evidence against anyone specific. Or the evidence will never meet the burden of proof.

 

[ldlager]

Jack gets to decide what he meant by that.

Jack says follow the money and goes on and on about Barry’s involvement with seedy characters. Not the heirs.

More individuals than just the heirs benefitted financially or otherwise from the fact that the Sherman’s were no longer alive. But the heirs also benefitted, certainly financially.