CANADA Canada - Billionaire Couple Barry & Honey Sherman Murdered at Home, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #24

[Lexiintoronto]

Old news, but remember a member at WS noticed that Honey and Barry weren’t even on the TPS website months after the murders? McLean’s then wrote about it on the first anniversary of the murders:


“Such shrouding of information is now the norm in a case many reflexively say will never be solved. Certainly, if you looked at the TPS website on the morning of December 13, it was as if the case never existed—or was not unsolved. It listed 32 unsolved 2017 homicides. Barry and Honey Sherman were nowhere to be found — until Maclean’s contacted the TPS to ask why the most talked about murder victims of 2017 were missing from the list. Hours later, the page was quietly updated. Barry and Honey Sherman are now at the top.

https://macleans.ca/news/barry-and-honey-sherman-duelling-investigations-high-drama-and-still-no-answers/

 

[WINDSOR]

Just my opinion, but I think there may be some in the TPS hierarchy that would like this case disappear from the public's memory. Why? Because it has been a costly investigation so far, with little progress made. There appears little chance that it will be solved or end in an successful prosecution.

The public awareness in the case, can lead to some believing that the TPS 'dropped the ball' early in the investigation.

As well there seems to be very little political interest or pressure to have this case come to a resolution.

MOO

 

[Kerry Winter]

If indeed l was the most probable suspect….a little odd that Detective B. Price waited 4 months to question me.

 

[Lexiintoronto]

If indeed l was the most probable suspect….a little odd that Detective B. Price waited 4 months to question me.

It’s to your credit that you agreed to have the police interview you, but you might be misremembering the date. It was announced on January 26th by police that the Shermans were in fact targeted and murdered.

You told the Sun you were interviewed by the police on February 1st, about six weeks after the murders.

“WARMINGTON: Sherman cousin Kerry Winter speaks with Toronto Police​

Joe Warmington
Published Feb 02, 2018

Kerry Winter went into Toronto Police’s homicide squad office at about 9 p.m.

He was out by 1 a.m. […]

Homicide detectives likely asked him if he has ever been inside the 12,000-square-foot mansion where Honey and Barry Sherman were found slain. A friend of the Shermans said he will tell police that Winter was asked by Barry to go to the house more than a dozen years ago to look at the kitchen, which he was hoping to renovate.

Winter says this is not true. “I have never stepped foot inside of 50 Old Colony Road,” he insists.[…]

What homicide detectives asked Winter is unknown. When asked about Winter on Friday, Toronto Police spokesman Mark Pugash would only say, “We will not be commenting.”

What is known is that he left the building and at 1:38 a.m. texted: “No problem. No worry.” ”

WARMINGTON: Sherman cousin Kerry Winter speaks with Toronto Police

Kerry Winter went into Toronto Police’s homicide squad office at about 9 p.m.

torontosun.com

 

[fadedglitter]

If indeed l was the most probable suspect….a little odd that Detective B. Price waited 4 months to question me.

Speaking generally, the people who witnesses identify as potential perpetrators are more likely to be interviewed later in the investigation. The police want to collect as much information as possible from other witnesses and then match it against the potential perpetrators’ statements.

The police have since said that they do not have any named suspects so it would appear that you aren’t elevated to that level (or lowered, depending on you perspective)..

 

[MerlinFalcon]

Next episode of Law and Order Toronto is about two very rich people with the male being the owner of a generic drug company. Was it a double murder? She was posed. Sound familiar?

 

[Bobbi Pearl]

Next episode of Law and Order Toronto is about two very rich people with the male being the owner of a generic drug company. Was it a double murder? She was posed. Sound familiar?

Wow, ok interest peaked, can you please share when does it air and where is it available ie Cable or stream?

Big thanks for the heads up

 

[MerlinFalcon]

Wow, ok interest peaked, can you please share when does it air and where is it available ie Cable or stream?

Big thanks for the heads up

Thursday on City tv at 10. They base all their shows on true events so it isn’t about the case, they make it into a show and the crime is usually solved.

 

[dotr]

'Bitter Pill​

• Episode airs May 8, 2025

"Law & Order Toronto: Criminal Intent" Bitter Pill (TV Episode 2025) ⭐ 7.2 | Action, Crime, Drama

Bitter Pill: Directed by Renuka Jeyapalan. With Aden Young, Kathleen Munroe, Karen Robinson, K.C. Collins. When a billionaire pharmaceutical CEO and his philanthropist wife are found dead in their home, Graff and Bateman are called to investigate.

www.imdb.com

'When a billionaire pharmaceutical CEO and his philanthropist wife are found dead in their home, Graff and Bateman are called to investigate.'

 

[MerlinFalcon]

'Bitter Pill​

• Episode airs May 8, 2025

"Law & Order Toronto: Criminal Intent" Bitter Pill (TV Episode 2025) ⭐ 7.2 | Action, Crime, Drama

Bitter Pill: Directed by Renuka Jeyapalan. With Aden Young, Kathleen Munroe, Karen Robinson, K.C. Collins. When a billionaire pharmaceutical CEO and his philanthropist wife are found dead in their home, Graff and Bateman are called to investigate.

www.imdb.com

'When a billionaire pharmaceutical CEO and his philanthropist wife are found dead in their home, Graff and Bateman are called to investigate.'

Thank you, Dotr, you always come through for us!

 

[Ssschu]

Next episode of Law and Order Toronto is about two very rich people with the male being the owner of a generic drug company. Was it a double murder? She was posed. Sound familiar?

I can't watch it from the US but please let us know who ends up being the killer. My money is on the son of this fictional couple. Lol

 

[ldlager]

I can't watch it from the US but please let us know who ends up being the killer. My money is on the son of this fictional couple. Lol

Maybe TPS should watch it might help them solve this case.

 

[Charlot123]

Just my opinion, but I think there may be some in the TPS hierarchy that would like this case disappear from the public's memory. Why? Because it has been a costly investigation so far, with little progress made. There appears little chance that it will be solved or end in an successful prosecution.

The public awareness in the case, can lead to some believing that the TPS 'dropped the ball' early in the investigation.

As well there seems to be very little political interest or pressure to have this case come to a resolution.

MOO

JMO. The reason for the murders is highly likely tied to the Sherman’s’ finances- or business, and the murders are limited to the couple. There is likely no public menace to beware of. It might be hard to sort through the list of all people harboring ill feelings towards BS. It may not be easy to understand who truly benefited from the Shermans deaths, with all these litigations and a huge business they owned. So unless there is someone who, on the personal level, is eager for the case to be solved, the wheels are turning slowly.

I do not suspect anyone specific. I think we may be unaware of that person. We know of the problems between BS and his family. But there can be dozens of others having strained relationship with the Ss.

The case is gigantic, manpower-consuming and difficult to understand, because it is a corporation. On a human side, though, one does feel sorry for two helpless aging people being killed on the doorstep of a new phase in their lives.

 

[Charlot123]

I can't watch it from the US but please let us know who ends up being the killer. My money is on the son of this fictional couple. Lol

That’s the sentiment I don’t share. We know of their problem. But lots of others could be having larger beefs with BS, we just never heard of them. JMO.

 

[FromGermany1]

So the huge is gigantic, manpower-consuming and realistically, difficult to understand, because it is a corporation. On a human side, one does feel sorry for two helpless aging people being killed on the doorstep of a new phase in their lives.

bbm
I can't help, but I'm thinking of this new phase in their lives all the time, as if it could be the main reason for the killing.
Everything (positive or negative regarding the business and property) was as usual (ups and downs) up until this point in 2017, and then the Last Will (all money to Charity, as the Shermans told friends) and the new house, which was perhaps too big and too expensive, became an issue.

 

[WINDSOR]

JMO. The reason for the murders is highly likely tied to the Sherman’s’ finances- or business, and the murders are limited to the couple. There is likely no public menace to beware of. It might be hard to sort through the list of all people harboring ill feelings towards BS. It may not be easy to understand who truly benefited from the Shermans deaths, with all these litigations and a huge business they owned. So unless there is someone who, on the personal level, is eager for the case to be solved, the wheels are turning slowly.

I do not suspect anyone specific. I think we may be unaware of that person. We know of the problems between BS and his family. But there can be dozens of others having strained relationship with the Ss.

The case is gigantic, manpower-consuming and difficult to understand, because it is a corporation. On a human side, though, one does feel sorry for two helpless aging people being killed on the doorstep of a new phase in their lives.

No doubt Barry had angered many people throughout his life. Many people can carry ill feelings towards others, yet do not go around murdering others.

To kill Barry and Honey, to end some sort of legal action initiated by Barry makes sense on one level, (If Barry is dead, he cannot sue me) but on another level, it makes no sense. Penalty for murder is greater than what he is suing me for.

It would also be very easy for the TPS to check who was at financial and/or business risk from Barry's actions, and to investigate those people as suspects. Seven years later nothing has been discovered, I doubt that that the deaths were business or legal related.


MOO

 

[Charlot123]

No doubt Barry had angered many people throughout his life. Many people can carry ill feelings towards others, yet do not go around murdering others.

To kill Barry and Honey, to end some sort of legal action initiated by Barry makes sense on one level, (If Barry is dead, he cannot sue me) but on another level, it makes no sense. Penalty for murder is greater than what he is suing me for.

It would also be very easy for the TPS to check who was at financial and/or business risk from Barry's actions, and to investigate those people as suspects. Seven years later nothing has been discovered, I doubt that that the deaths were business or legal related.


MOO

I was asking myself, at what point the founder of a big, successful company becomes a liability for his own brainchild??Maybe he gets ill and impulsive, makes a string of irrational decisions, the company starts losing money but he still won’t leave? Someone might have decided that the company would be better off without him. The lawsuits could be less about the lawsuits but more an indicator of something being off in his mind.

 

[WINDSOR]

I was asking myself, at what point the founder of a big, successful company becomes a liability for his own brainchild??Maybe he gets ill and impulsive, makes a string of irrational decisions, the company starts losing money but he still won’t leave? Someone might have decided that the company would be better off without him. The lawsuits could be less about the lawsuits but more an indicator of something being off in his mind.

I do not believe that Barry at any point before his death was a liability to his company Apotex. I firmly believe this because of the following.

1) Apotex under his control was profitable and growing, and a major player in Big Pharma industry.

2) Barry had quality people in major leadership roles, such as Jack Kay, and others, who would be aware of and be able to mitigate and correct negative situations. "Maybe he gets ill and impulsive, makes a string of irrational decisions".

3) Even though there were some legal reversals recently, Apotex annual earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) were estimated to be about $400 million in 2017. The company's revenue for that year was in the range of $1 billion. Not a sign of a mismanaged company.

4) When you outright own a Billion dollar company that is making 40% profit on sales, I think spending a million here and there of grade B movies with Frank D'Angelo, lending your son $40 million and building a $30 million mansion, in context do not seem reckless.

 

[dotr]

For anyone interested in watching or recording it, Law and Order ''Bitter Pill', is about to start @ 9 pm tonight.

 

[fadedglitter]

For anyone interested in watching or recording it, Law and Order ''Bitter Pill', is about to start @ 9 pm tonight.

Was the killer a person nobody had ever read about in the newspaper?