CANADA Canada - Billionaire Couple Barry & Honey Sherman Murdered at Home, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #24

[musicaljoke]

If the Shermans had been shot to death, would the culprit have been more easily identified?

I don't know. The theatrical staging of the murder seems to complicate the case and theoretically should make it easier to solve. One would think that a murder for hire would be in and out like lightning, yet anything is possible, even a ridiculous murder for hire with staging as part of the plan.

 

[musicaljoke]

Anything is possible. It could have been one person acting alone. It could have been a local individual or group. They could have been hired, or they could have been acting for their own reasons.

The fact the TPS undertook investigations of international activities, points to the likelihood the killers were not local.
The complexity and the creativity of the murders implies a high level of expertise.

From early on, the TPS stated they had a theory of what occurred. We do not know if their theory is still valid, but for sure they do not have enough evidence to win in a court of law.

They might have all the evidence they need except the suspect in hand.

 

[FromGermany1]

If the Shermans had been shot to death, would the culprit have been more easily identified?

Who knows. If the gun couldn't traced back via the bullet, it wouldn't have helped, IMO.
Maybe, an error in staging had helped to recognize M/S or non-M/S more than it has done with no bullets, but throttling marks.

 

[Clue Keeper]

Specific attention was drawn to the gait of the suspect, who appeared to kick their right foot up while walking.

When you look at that weird "flick" in the suspect's right foot, it really boils down to a few physical possibilities. The most likely one is something called foot drop, which usually comes from nerve damage. Basically, the person can’t lift the front of their foot up normally, so to avoid tripping over their own toes, they have to hike their leg up higher. That motion makes the foot snap or flick forward at the end of the step. Then there’s the possibility of something like MS. In cases like that, the muscles can get really tight or "spastic" because the brain is having trouble sending clear signals to the legs. It creates this 'stiff leg' walk where they have to swing the leg out, and that tension can cause the foot to kick or flick out instead of moving in a smooth line. Police are really hoping that someone recognizes this specific movement, because even if a person can hide their face, it’s almost impossible to hide a walk that’s baked into your bones.

 

[dotr]

Specific attention was drawn to the gait of the suspect, who appeared to kick their right foot up while walking.

When you look at that weird "flick" in the suspect's right foot, it really boils down to a few physical possibilities. The most likely one is something called foot drop, which usually comes from nerve damage. Basically, the person can’t lift the front of their foot up normally, so to avoid tripping over their own toes, they have to hike their leg up higher. That motion makes the foot snap or flick forward at the end of the step. Then there’s the possibility of something like MS. In cases like that, the muscles can get really tight or "spastic" because the brain is having trouble sending clear signals to the legs. It creates this 'stiff leg' walk where they have to swing the leg out, and that tension can cause the foot to kick or flick out instead of moving in a smooth line. Police are really hoping that someone recognizes this specific movement, because even if a person can hide their face, it’s almost impossible to hide a walk that’s baked into your bones.

Gait affected due to repeated kick-starting of a motorcycle? speculation.

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7317297609264205062

 

[dotr]

January 14, 2026

Honey & Barry Memorial Arena and Park Opens, Expanding Opportunities for Recreation

With the opening of the Honey and Barry Memorial Arena, the Vaughan Jewish Community Campus in Vaughan, Ontario, now boasts a purpose-built, all-season facility designed to bring people together through wellness, recreation, inclusivity, and connection. Architecture49 led the design of this new...

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'The facility includes two NHL-sized ice surfaces arranged in an end-to-end configuration in response to the long and narrow parcel of land to optimize circulation, operational efficiency and sightlines from the second floor Lounge that overlooks both rinks, one with seating for 400 spectators and the other with rink level seating for 150.'

'In memory of Honey and Barry Sherman, beloved philanthropists known for their commitment to equitable, community-building initiatives, the arena stands as a reflection of their legacy that is made possible by their son, Jonathon Sherman, a gift with a vision rooted in accessibility and belonging.'

 

[Professor Moriarty]

What was the "staging" for? What did it mean?

Why not put the bodies in the pool under the pool cover? They would not have been found for a longer time and any DNA traces would be less likely to remain?

 

[WINDSOR]

What was the "staging" for? What did it mean?

Why not put the bodies in the pool under the pool cover? They would not have been found for a longer time and any DNA traces would be less likely to remain?

Some people think the staging was to send a message to someone. Being able to decrypt the message and whom it was intended for, might lead you to the perpetrator and solve the crime.

Other people believe the staging was a ruse/deception to confuse and distract investigators. The staging is therefore irrelevant to solving the crime.

My own opinion leans to the fact the staging is significant, normally killers would bother with such effort unless there was some purpose. The message I believe was "See, Barry was not so smart, he could not save himself nor his wife. they both look pathetic and dumb now." Now ask yourself how many people felt that way about the Barry?

MOO

 

[Lexiintoronto]

What was the "staging" for? What did it mean?

Why not put the bodies in the pool under the pool cover? They would not have been found for a longer time and any DNA traces would be less likely to remain?

My feeling is that despite it being a homicide, it meant something to the killer that Barry looked peaceful and the death as being gentle, imo. Less so with Honey.

From KD’s documentary: The thin ligature was used to kill them, the belts simply kept them in position. FBI profiler: that was done as a shock factor for whoever walks in and finds them. Pathologist: the killer took delight in setting the scene.

That differs from my impression. Daughter Alexandra said she shut down after the murders. Maybe that’s part of what the killer hoped—that the survivors would be disabled for a period of time. Feeling powerless in some ways.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Am I the only one who thinks it was one person acting alone, and not a murder for hire?

That could also explain why the reward money is still sitting there. If it was a loner, they aren't going to rat on themselves.

If a consipiracy of sorts where 2 or more were involved in any planning of this, that's harder to keep a secet and the reward might test loyalties.

Personally, I don't think this was hire but don't discount it or other theories as I am not an expert on the details.

I think whoever did this, wanted to do it themselves - hands on. Wanted BS to see him and maybe his face and the posing was the killer's perverse way to embarrass them and make a mockery of them in a way.

By inviting others in the plan is risky, this might be their own little secret. MOO JMO

 

[MerlinFalcon]

January 14, 2026

Honey & Barry Memorial Arena and Park Opens, Expanding Opportunities for Recreation

With the opening of the Honey and Barry Memorial Arena, the Vaughan Jewish Community Campus in Vaughan, Ontario, now boasts a purpose-built, all-season facility designed to bring people together through wellness, recreation, inclusivity, and connection. Architecture49 led the design of this new...

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'The facility includes two NHL-sized ice surfaces arranged in an end-to-end configuration in response to the long and narrow parcel of land to optimize circulation, operational efficiency and sightlines from the second floor Lounge that overlooks both rinks, one with seating for 400 spectators and the other with rink level seating for 150.'

'In memory of Honey and Barry Sherman, beloved philanthropists known for their commitment to equitable, community-building initiatives, the arena stands as a reflection of their legacy that is made possible by their son, Jonathon Sherman, a gift with a vision rooted in accessibility and belonging.'

This is ridiculous. Barry and Honey had a lot of interests, none of them included hockey. On the other hand, Jonathon plays hockey. This is a nice little rink for him and his friends. Wonderful amenities for the players and somewhere to eat afterwards.

 

[al66pine]

That could also explain why the reward money is still sitting there.....

^ sbm ^ Asking of anyone, pls. A link to a source, w'in the past year stating
that the person's/org.'s offering the reward has verified w'in the past year,
that their offer is still valid & the $$$ still available.

And terms of offer, i.e., for suspect's arrest or homicide conviction(s).

IOW, not a repeat of a second or third hand source from waaaay back,
years ago, about the reward(s). looking for something more current.

Was there an anniversary article in Dec. that covered this? I did not find any.

@Lalalacasbah
Thx for mentioning the reward money.

 

[MerlinFalcon]

^ sbm ^ Asking of anyone, pls. A link to a source, w'in the past year stating
that the person's/org.'s offering the reward has verified w'in the past year,
that their offer is still valid & the $$$ still available.

And terms of offer, i.e., for suspect's arrest or homicide conviction(s).

IOW, not a repeat of a second or third hand source from waaaay back,
years ago, about the reward(s). looking for something more current.

Was there an anniversary article in Dec. that covered this? I did not find any.

@Lalalacasbah
Thx for mentioning the reward money.

Toronto Sun late 2025

 

[dotr]

Toronto Sun late 2025

In case others cannot access that portion of the article.
Dec., 12, 2025
''Jonathon has confirmed to the Toronto Sun that the $25-milllon reward, added to the $10 million offered earlier with his sisters, still stands – making it $35 million to whoever find his parents killer or killers.''

 

[Professor Moriarty]

In case others cannot access that portion of the article.
Dec., 12, 2025
''Jonathon has confirmed to the Toronto Sun that the $25-milllon reward, added to the $10 million offered earlier with his sisters, still stands – making it $35 million to whoever find his parents killer or killers.''

I wonder if public/Crown Prosecutors (apologies if that is the wrong terminology) would do a deal, giving immunity to someone involved in the crime (perhaps a lower level role, such as look out or driver), if he offered to spill the beans and give evidence against the others.

They could provide a new ID and arrange for him to move to another English speaking country. With $35 million, he could afford plastic surgery.

 

[fadedglitter]

Crowns in Canada frequently cut deals with accuseds; the legal system would collapse under its own weight if they did not. Typically the person will plead guilty to a lesser crime and agree to testify against someone else. The person does not get a new identity; they go to jail.

For example, Karla Homolka cooperated with the Crown and received concurrent twelve-year sentences for manslaughter. She was released at warrant expiry over 20 years ago.

In the Sherman case there is no evidence of a lookout or driver so there is likely nobody to cut a deal with.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

This is my layman's thoughts on why involving 2 or more conspirators is VERY risky and would only work to keep a secret and have no slip ups over the years if one of few scenarios below.

*I have these same thoughts/theory regarding the Lindsay Buziak case which seems to confirm 2 or more people conspired her murder.

I just cannot see no slip ups along the way if there are 2 or 3 hands in the cookie jar unless they're secret is protected by blood, love or death. I cannot see a business transaction secret being kept under wraps with no leaks this long. All MOO of course:

1. Conspirators would be involved romantically and are still together for one not to slip up or talk
2. Conspirators are family. A family member loyal to another would not rat the other one out
3. One of the conspirators is deceased so no risk at ratting/talking

 

[MerlinFalcon]

Crowns in Canada frequently cut deals with accuseds; the legal system would collapse under its own weight if they did not. Typically the person will plead guilty to a lesser crime and agree to testify against someone else. The person does not get a new identity; they go to jail.

For example, Karla Homolka cooperated with the Crown and received concurrent twelve-year sentences for manslaughter. She was released at warrant expiry over 20 years ago.

In the Sherman case there is no evidence of a lookout or driver so there is likely nobody to cut a deal with.

She also lucked out when the lawyers found the video tapes in the ceiling and didn’t hand them over to the cops. I don’t think she would have gotten off so lightly otherwise.

 

[ldlager]

This is ridiculous. Barry and Honey had a lot of interests, none of them included hockey. On the other hand, Jonathon plays hockey. This is a nice little rink for him and his friends. Wonderful amenities for the players and somewhere to eat afterwards.

I am not sure what your issue with this is.
I know for a fact that BS attended Leaf games occasionally, including with HS and MS. But I am sure he wasn’t a die hard hockey fan. But what’s the difference if he was or not? It’s JS’ money, he can do with it what he wants.
I am sure that the community members and the families that will use the arena and the related facilities, and the players and professionals that will train there with Gary Roberts will be more than glad that facility was built. I don’t think that the facility will just sit empty when JS and his friends aren’t playing… if they even play there.
In my view, JS deserves credit for building and contributing this facility, and for dedicating it to the memory of his parents.

 

[fadedglitter]

I am not sure what your issue with this is.
I know for a fact that BS attended Leaf games occasionally, including with HS and MS. But I am sure he wasn’t a die hard hockey fan. But what’s the difference if he was or not? It’s JS’ money, he can do with it what he wants.
I am sure that the community members and the families that will use the arena and the related facilities, and the players and professionals that will train there with Gary Roberts will be more than glad that facility was built. I don’t think that the facility will just sit empty when JS and his friends aren’t playing… if they even play there.
In my view, JS deserves credit for building and contributing this facility, and for dedicating it to the memory of his parents.

The hockey arena is such a Rorschach test. There’s no logical reason to have any negative opinions about a wealthy person using his own money to build an arena and naming it after his parents. And yet I’ve seen the most bizarre takes on this, always from people who imagine he killed his parents.

The same people don’t think it’s objectionable when the Sherman sisters use their personal wealth to buy real estate or support other “active living” projects for low-income people.