CANADA Canada - Billionaire Couple Barry & Honey Sherman Murdered at Home, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #24

[ldlager]

bbm
Would BS have done that to his house, which he was very reluctant to leave and which he probably loved?

No, but he didn’t kill his wife or himself either

 

[J Sleuth]

Happy new year to you all. Does anybody have a plausible theory who was killed first according to the facial wounds of HS and arrival times of HS and BS. Why did HS supposedly try to flee at some time or showed a kind of resistance while BS seemed not having resisted the attackers at all. Could it be that BS has been unconscience perhaps by chloroform that he didn’t or couldn’t resist during the attack. For the attackers it would be the best to make as less noise as possible and do it as quick as possible. The staging of the bodies tell me that the attackers really enjoyed killing them trying to look them ridiculous with the message now we let you both hanging. The mastermind behind these attacks was thinking maybe you both also did hang me because you both ruïned my life too.

 

[J Sleuth]

Sorry about blank post. I wanted to add that IMO, the reason for the posing is the big question. I agree that humiliation of the Shermans was probably a big part of it. I also think the perpetrators may have taken a picture of the posed bodies either to provide to their contractors or for their own souvenir. This aspect has likely been discussed previously on this board.

 

[fadedglitter]

Sorry about blank post. I wanted to add that IMO, the reason for the posing is the big question. I agree that humiliation of the Shermans was probably a big part of it. I also think the perpetrators may have taken a picture of the posed bodies either to provide to their contractors or for their own souvenir. This aspect has likely been discussed previously on this board.

For a long time, I wondered if the positioning was for the purposes of getting a “good photo”. The early descriptions of the bodies as seated side by side made me think both torsos were perpendicular to the floor (or nearly so). A macabre photo, to be sure, but it would be a proof-of-death image that could be used until the bodies were found.

Since then we’ve gotten a better description of the positioning, and Honey in particular is tipped way back, almost reclining. That makes for a less compelling photo.

 

[hexicon]

I think the posing (I'd call it staging) was done for pragmatic reasons rather than humiliation/satisfaction. The killer wanted to create a false M/S scene and postpone the discovery for as long as possible. I don't think the killer(s) thought that the M/S facade would hold for long, but they hoped (correctly as it turned out) that the staged scene would result in confusion and delay.

As for postponing the discovery, I think the killer benefited from an discovery delay that was even longer than expected. If there hadn't been a real estate showing, the ordinary visitors to the house on Friday (housekeeper, personal trainer, gardener) might not have gone to the pool room at all. Likewise, the killers might have expected some kind of call to the kids/LE welfare check* after Barry failed to show up at work on Thursday, but that apparently didn't happen.

*I realize we don't know about the mystery visitor on Thursday and whether that was LE, a real estate agent, or someone else.

 

[dotr]

2019

29 minutes inside Barry and Honey Sherman’s home: Who was the visitor?

While the Shermans lay dead in the basement pool room of their Toronto home a lone man went in and out of their house three times, according to an account of security camera footage seized by Toronto police.

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''While Barry and Honey Sherman lay dead in the basement of their Toronto home, a lone man went in and out of their house three times, according to an account of security camera footage seized by Toronto police.
Between 9:11 a.m. and 10:16 a.m. on Dec. 14, 2017, the man walked from a four-door sedan parked in front of the Sherman house on Old Colony Rd., appeared to enter the house through the front door, then came back outside. He did this three times, for a total of 29 minutes inside the Sherman home, before driving off.''

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''Police know mystery man in Sherman house''​

''Toronto Police Chief Mark Saunders says his officers have interviewed the mystery man who spent 29 minutes inside the home of Barry and Honey Sherman while they lay dead in the basement. “I can tell you we knew who the person was, why they...''

 

[fadedglitter]

I think the posing (I'd call it staging) was done for pragmatic reasons rather than humiliation/satisfaction. The killer wanted to create a false M/S scene and postpone the discovery for as long as possible. I don't think the killer(s) thought that the M/S facade would hold for long, but they hoped (correctly as it turned out) that the staged scene would result in confusion and delay.

As for postponing the discovery, I think the killer benefited from an discovery delay that was even longer than expected. If there hadn't been a real estate showing, the ordinary visitors to the house on Friday (housekeeper, personal trainer, gardener) might not have gone to the pool room at all. Likewise, the killers might have expected some kind of call to the kids/LE welfare check* after Barry failed to show up at work on Thursday, but that apparently didn't happen.

*I realize we don't know about the mystery visitor on Thursday and whether that was LE, a real estate agent, or someone else.

A killer who knew anything at all about the Shermans’ lives would have been expecting Honey’s assistant Sheila to show up Thursday morning and for staff at Apotex to notice Barry’s absence soon afterwards. Anyone who came to the house would notice the newspaper hadn’t been collected, and that the beds were untouched.

MOO: the killer likely expected the bodies to be discovered on Thursday and never thought they would get an extra 24 hours.