CANADA Canada - Billionaire Couple Barry & Honey Sherman Murdered at Home, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #24

[ldlager]

Keys are not required for experts. Locks can be defeated, patio doors can be opened with the correct tools, windows can be jimmied. Alarms can be defeated or disabled.

You speculate that....''It is possible that the killers entered the home undetected before HS got home, and they did so by either breaking in the house, or using a key and then disarming the alarm". If this is in fact correct, it provides no clue to the identity of the killers.

Who had keys? Lots of people I would guess.

And who knew the alarm codes?

 

[ldlager]

A tale of two sets of murders.
Here is a scenario: A married couple is brutally murdered in their house at night.. Their bodies discovered by visitors to the house. The husband was financially successful, with no known criminal record. Both victims had seemingly no known enemies, certainly no one who hated them enough to murder them. Police undertake a forensic examination of the murder scene. Police obtain video of an unknown man walking near the victims home around the time of the murders. The unknown man in the video seems to make an effort to avoid looking towards security cameras. He is dressed in a dark coat and a hoodie or hat, presumably to avoid recognition.

Sound familiar? No, I am not referring to the Shermans. I am referring to Spencer Tempe the murdered dentist and his wife who lived in Ohio and were murdered in their home less than 2 weeks ago. Within a couple of days after the murder, Ohio police announced that the case was a double homicide and not a murder suicide. Police almost immediately released the video of the man walking near the murder scene to the public and asked for the public’s help in identifying the individual. Within a few days the police, with the anssistance of the public, identified and arrested a suspect and he has been charged with murder.

The TPS waited four years to release their Sherman “walking man” video to the public. It’s been 8 years since the Sherman’s were murdered. No suspects, no arrests, no convictions, no justice.

Amazing how two similar sets of circumstances can result in completely different outcomes….

 

[planet]

Hello everyone. My theory. A hitman or hitmen were hired and landed in Toronto a couple of weeks before the murders. somewhere end november or early december. They need to know the daily schedules of HS and BS. So preparing is key. So they followed the Shermens for some weeks. I would have checked as I was TPS for a month before the murders people from abroad visiting the country for 3 weeks. Also they have to stay somewhere in a hotel or motel. So check all the hotels and motels in the neighboorhood. Also check the direct family, the incoming phonecalls and texts from a month before the murders. The master minder has to contact the murderers several times for the execution date and the time schedule of the shermens and of course the agreed sum. Probably an amount before the murders and after. What also is interesting that there is no mentioning of contact to the Shermens regarding 14th of december. Has nobody contacted or trying to contact them on that date ? Also there was no overkill. No stab wounds or mutilating the bodies during or after the crime. So no absurd hathred from the murderers. The stages of the bodies must ment something to the killers. They succeeded in winning time to let it look like a murder homicide. Als the TPS has to check al foreigners who left the country on the 14th and 15th december 2017. The NW is definateley a male to my opinion who walked fast and it look like on the video that he was aware of the camera by turning his

(Sorry all for the duplicates. The quote function and I didn't have good time. -Planet)

I don't think there's any reason to assume the killer or killers live abroad and flew into Canada. It's so much effort. Many things can go wrong. Passenger manifests can be reviewed.

My assumption has been that the killer (I assume one) lives in Oshawa. Or Burlington, Mississauga, or Guelph. He's familiar with North York and Bayview/401 traffic patterns. The WM, if involved, is a retired fellow who drove the 40 minutes back home to his suburban house and family after he finished the job.

I grew up about ten minutes from the Sherman house. There's a kind of intimacy that comes from knowing the neighborhoods, yards, and shortcuts--"the lay of the land"--that a local or regional hire would bring that would more likely ensure a seamless and undetectable operation. The route of the WM released by TPS is that of someone who knows the topography and design of the neighbourhoods, IMO. This seems quite unlike a hit in a house on (say) Sullivan Street near Dundas and Spadina.

TLDR: I can't imagine an international hire doing this job.

 

[Functionalist]

The Shermans’ neighbourhood is a fairly typical affluent North American suburban neighbourhood. There isn’t much to navigating it. All the killer would have had to do was to park somewhere without cameras, for instance, by a small neighbourhood park, and then discretely walk to the Sherman house. Their home was located quite close to Highway 401, which connects with every freeway in the region and passes by the city’s international airport too. It would have been easy for the assailant to get away using the 401.

 

[musicaljoke]

A tale of two sets of murders.
Here is a scenario: A married couple is brutally murdered in their house at night.. Their bodies discovered by visitors to the house. The husband was financially successful, with no known criminal record. Both victims had seemingly no known enemies, certainly no one who hated them enough to murder them. Police undertake a forensic examination of the murder scene. Police obtain video of an unknown man walking near the victims home around the time of the murders. The unknown man in the video seems to make an effort to avoid looking towards security cameras. He is dressed in a dark coat and a hoodie or hat, presumably to avoid recognition.

Sound familiar? No, I am not referring to the Shermans. I am referring to Spencer Tempe the murdered dentist and his wife who lived in Ohio and were murdered in their home less than 2 weeks ago. Within a couple of days after the murder, Ohio police announced that the case was a double homicide and not a murder suicide. Police almost immediately released the video of the man walking near the murder scene to the public and asked for the public’s help in identifying the individual. Within a few days the police, with the anssistance of the public, identified and arrested a suspect and he has been charged with murder.

The TPS waited four years to release their Sherman “walking man” video to the public. It’s been 8 years since the Sherman’s were murdered. No suspects, no arrests, no convictions, no justice.

Amazing how two similar sets of circumstances can result in completely different outcomes….

It might not be quite a fair comparison. The ex-husband is the accused in the Spencer Tempe case and was likely the first place LE went on the first day of their investigation. Folks saw him loitering around in the days leading up to the murders. It was an easy case which likely would have been solved without ever posting the video.

The Sherman case seems more complicated. It's possible that the Toronto police know who the suspect is. If he is hiding out in a place with no extradition agreement with Canada, then they just have to wait until he shows up again. Tipping their hand about what they know may result in never having an arrest.