Canada, Greenland, Mexico, etc - USA Tariffs / Trade War commencing March 2025 #5

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  • #621
Just another trip. My husband and I bicycled through France, Germany, and Austria - self contained. We sort of knew where we might stay, and we were able to find accommodations - mostly hostels. BUT, those hostels were first come, first served. Could not make reservations. Once we were turned away, giving priority to walkers/hikers so we ended up in a hotel. Another day, because of heavy rain, we on the spur of the moment decided to stop early and find accommodations for the night. Once more - France - rain again stopped us. Tourism department found us a place to stay for the night.

In today's world of border Nazis, how would we even be admitted?
 
  • #622
  • DHL won’t deliver packages to U.S. consumers that have a value above $800 “until further notice,” according to a company statement. The freeze is the result of delays in getting packages through U.S. customs owing to President Donald Trump’s tariff policy.
The multinational logistics and shipping company DHL said it would suspend shipments of over $800 to consumers in the U.S. because of delays in getting packages through customs.

 
  • #623
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the situation, but surely Pepsi will need to pay a tariff of 10% (currently) to import concentrate from Ireland into the US, which will ultimately either need to be absorbed by the company when pricing the finished product for sale within the US, or increase the sale price by the amount of the tariff. This should increase any price differential between Pepsi and Coca Cola on the shelf at home and make Pepsi less attractive on price.

Yes, that is correct. The tariffs give Coca Cola an advantage in the domestic (US) market. At the same time, there is a world-wide trend to avoid purchasing US products, which is an advantage to Pepsi on the world market. Mexico is/was a huge market for US made Cola, purchasing nearly as much as the domestic US market.

In addition, the US tariffs on Canadian imports of aluminum will raise the cost of cans. Coca cola can switch to plastic containers, but the US imports much of their plastics as well. Coco Cola imports sweeteners from China.

China has imposed retaliatory import tariffs, which will raise Cola prices in China. Over all, the international boycotts could create more business loss to Coca Cola than the direct import tariffs put in place by Trump. This could, in the end, give Pepsi the upper hand.
 
  • #624
Yes, that is correct. The tariffs give Coca Cola an advantage in the domestic (US) market. At the same time, there is a world-wide tread to avoid purchasing US products, which is an advantage to Pepsi on the world market. Mexico is/was a huge market for US made Cola, purchasing nearly as much as the domestic US market.

In addition, the US tariffs on Canadian imports of aluminum will raise the cost of cans. Coca cola can switch to plastic containers, but the US imports much of their plastics as well. Coco Cola imports sweeteners from China.

China has imposed retaliatory import tariffs, which will raise Cola prices in China. Over all, the international boycotts could create more business loss to Coca Cola than the direct import tariffs put in place by Trump. This could, in the end, give Pepsi the upper hand.
Anyone boycotting US is still going to boycott Pepsi, too, no matter where they make their syrup. They're a US company.

MOO
 
  • #625
France...In today's world of border Nazis, how would we even be admitted?
IMO, Europe highly values foreign tourists, their economy depends on them, so they welcome them. However, they also know that most tourists have a better life back home, so they're not worried, at this point, about them staying on illegally in problematic numbers. They also don't have nice climates like Florida, California or Hawaii... :)

JMO
 
  • #626
IMO, Europe highly values foreign tourists, their economy depends on them, so they welcome them. However, they also know that most tourists have a better life back home, so they're not worried, at this point, about them staying on illegally in problematic numbers. They also don't have nice climates like Florida, Cali or Hawaii...

JMO
Wow, the French Riviera felt that burn. Most of the Mediterranean did.

MOO
 
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Sorry, I don't understand...?
The Mediterranean coast is a hotspot for tourism for a number of reasons, but its climate is a major one.

MOO
 
  • #629
The Mediterranean coast is a hotspot for tourism for a number of reasons, but its climate is a major one.

MOO
Not year round: off-season it's cold and rainy for months. The cheap houses are barely heated.
 
  • #630
Last week, Tracy and Dale McMullen sold their vacation home in Buckeye, Arizona, a property they owned for five years. The Alberta residents, who usually spend four to five months in Arizona a year, said they are not planning to come back.

“We decided to sell the property after the current POTUS took office,” said Dale, referring to U.S. President Donald Trump, who was inaugurated for the second time in January.
 
  • #631
IMO, Europe highly values foreign tourists, their economy depends on them, so they welcome them. However, they also know that most tourists have a better life back home, so they're not worried, at this point, about them staying on illegally in problematic numbers. They also don't have nice climates like Florida, California or Hawaii... :)

JMO

when you look at the quality of life index most of the top 10 still consists of european countries :)

a lot of european tourist destinations also have the problem of too much tourists! the city where i live has actually done a campaign to discourage tourists from visiting. even though i like that people like to visit my hometown, it would be nice if our city centre became a little less crowded. but still we won’t detain anyone who just wants to have a nice vacation at the border, i hope!
 
  • #632
This time, the protests against the U.S. political leadership will span three U.S./Canada border crossings. Crowds will congregate this Saturday in the communities that host Windsor’s Ambassador Bridge, Sarnia’s Blue Water Bridge, and the International Bridge in Sault Ste. Marie in a show of cross-border solidarity.
 
  • #633

when you look at the quality of life index most of the top 10 still consists of european countries :)

a lot of european tourist destinations also have the problem of too much tourists! the city where i live has actually done a campaign to discourage tourists from visiting. even though i like that people like to visit my hometown, it would be nice if our city centre became a little less crowded. but still we won’t detain anyone who just wants to have a nice vacation at the border, i hope!
Sorry, I didn't intend to offend anyone. This came off the topic of American border officials assuming that Canadians, although pretending to be tourists, are trying to sneak over the border to live and work there, and so they question them closely.

In my own experience, it's actually true. It is much cheaper to live in the US than in Canada, a Canadian can blend right in, and they can live permanently in an RV or truck or in super cheap hostels, or Woofing, etc, and they just don't leave after their 6 months are up. I know people who have done this for years, to avoid renting and save money and enjoy better weather...until recently when the digital information sharing agreement meant that, when you eventually leave the US to go back to Canada, they now know how long you were there.

IMO, the US government believes they have the greatest country in the world, and they assume everyone wants to sneak in and set up their lives to live their there illegally, without documentation. I am just saying, they have a reason to believe that, it's not totally false.

Canada doesn't have this problem, because it's expensive and there's no where to run to get away from winter, so you need a nice heated (expensive) apartment.

I think Europe is the same, at least with regards to tourists.

JMO
 
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Trump’s trade war will hit US prosperity hard, IMF warns

"President Donald Trump’s unpredictable tariff policy and countermeasures by America’s trading partners will likely deal a heavy blow to economies worldwide, with US prosperity hit particularly hard, the International Monetary Fund warned Tuesday.

Global economic growth will slow to 2.8% this year, from 3.3% last year and significantly below the historical average, the IMF forecast in its World Economic Outlook.

The slowdown expected in the United States is even steeper, with its economy likely to grow only 1.8% in 2025, compared with a 2.8% expansion in 2024.

Trump’s new tariffs account for almost half of the sharp downgrade in the IMF’s US growth forecast for this year

North America, just like all regions, can’t expect any upside from the tariffs further down the line. “The long-term impact of the tariffs, if they are maintained, (will be) negative for all regions, just like the short-term impacts,” "
 
  • #635
"The [US] dollar is hovering around its lowest level for nearly three years after Donald Trump’s attacks on the Federal Reserve raised concerns about the central bank’s independence.

Analysts said the dollar was left in an especially fragile state amid market concerns over Mr Trump’s global trade war.

Doubts about Fed independence threaten the dollar’s value as a reserve currency.

 
  • #636
"Investment managers of eight US states have publicly questioned Elon Musk’s focus in the run-up to Tesla’s quarterly results tonight.

“CEO Elon Musk continues to divide his attention across multiple companies and a high-profile advisory role within the federal government. These external commitments raise serious questions about whether Tesla’s leadership is fully engaged in addressing the company’s core challenges...

“Public officials like us do not take the step of raising these concerns lightly except when the obvious risks demand it.”

Tesla’s stock price has fallen 41.5% since the start of the year."

 
  • #637
Sorry, I didn't intend to offend anyone. This came off the topic of American border officials assuming that Canadians, although pretending to be tourists, are trying to sneak over the border to live and work there, and so they question them closely.

In my own experience, it's actually true. It is much cheaper to live in the US than in Canada, a Canadian can blend right in, and they can live permanently in an RV or truck or in super cheap hostels, or Woofing, etc, and they just don't leave after their 6 months are up. I know people who have done this for years, to avoid renting and save money and enjoy better weather...until recently when the digital information sharing agreement meant that, when you eventually leave the US to go back to Canada, they now know how long you were there.

IMO, the US government believes they have the greatest country in the world, and they assume everyone wants to sneak in and set up their lives to live their there illegally, without documentation. I am just saying, they have a reason to believe that, it's not totally false.

Canada doesn't have this problem, because it's expensive and there's no where to run to get away from winter, so you need a nice heated (expensive) apartment.

I think Europe is the same, at least with regards to tourists.

JMO

You might see airlines offering cheap airfares from Canada to places like the Caribbean. The airlines are going to try to find ways to entice Canadians to travel to warmer climates during winter, so they can maintain their profits. Now that their tourist numbers to the US are significantly decreasing.

imo
 
  • #638
You might see airlines offering cheap airfares from Canada to places like the Caribbean. The airlines are going to try to find ways to entice Canadians to travel to warmer climates during winter, so they can maintain their profits. Now that their tourist numbers to the US are significantly decreasing.

imo
Agreed. I would expect to see Canadian low cost airlines expanding their route offerings and flight schedules, and maybe a few new such airlines start up.
 
  • #639
You might see airlines offering cheap airfares from Canada to places like the Caribbean. The airlines are going to try to find ways to entice Canadians to travel to warmer climates during winter, so they can maintain their profits. Now that their tourist numbers to the US are significantly decreasing.

imo
Sure, millions already go to Mexico, and those who can afford it go to the Caribbean - many like the Algarve...

I was talking about people who don't fly and just stay for a week or two in a fancy hotel, but who drive over the border in October, and don't plan to return until April..(if ever..). Canadian Snowbirds, they're called.

I am just saying, the US has never had a lackadaisical attitude about it, so the new measures are just an extension of previous concerns, not a whole new reality.

Now people have to go through a registration process if they plan to stay longer than 30 days, including providing an address...

I'm more interested in understanding things, than acting outraged.

JMO
 
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Agreed. I would expect to see Canadian low cost airlines expanding their route offerings and flight schedules, and maybe a few new such airlines start up.
WestJet is probably the only one that could do it.
 
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