CANADA Canada - Lindsay Buziak, 24, Victoria, BC, 2 Feb 2008

  • #621
I do think possible someone (a woman) was stewing a long time about Lindsay... grudge or whatever... jealousy, resentment, hatred, maybe feeling 'justified' for something if she felt wronged or betrayed by Lindsay...something...

The man could of held Lindsay down/arms held back while the woman did the damage. Who knows really, but wounds from what I know/have heard - sound personal/emotional so I side a little more to that being done by the woman who had hatred towards her.

I don't know the inside details though and unsure what's true...all speculation and JMO
This murder has personal written all over it, and I've never seen any evidence that would lead me in a different direction. Something that has always bothered me is the bias one-sided story that the Capital Daily wrote. I think it was called "what the internet got wrong". The entire story favored the Zailo family and went out of their way to discredit Lindsay's father. The man may have gone off the rails at times but wait a minute, his daughter wasn't just killed, she was brutally stabbed to death and had her throat cut. Lindsay's dad has given his all to try and find his daughter's killers and I commend him for that. While the Capital Daily pointed out a few lies they believe the dad had told, they failed to mention that Shirley Zailo rented a home to Ziggy Matheson, a known drug trafficker & accused murderer, and that she had lied on Dateline when she tried to discredit Lindsay's ex-boyfriend Matt. Shirley's sons were friends with this Ziggy guy and other local drug dealers, not to mention Greg Martel, a disgraced mortgage broker in Victoria. I heard they even took Ziggy on their Christmas-New Years's vacation Dec-2007. More shocking in that news story was to hear that Lindsay's mother Evelyn was friends with Shirley and believed that the Zailo family had nothing to do with Lindsay's murder. It's really bizarre considering so much of the circumstantial evidence points to the Zailos having some kind of involvement. Sounds like Lindsay's mom drank too much of the Zailo Kool-Aid.
 
  • #622
I often hear people say that a murder was "personal" because of a high level of violence. However, there are some people who are just very violent and when their adrenaline is flowing they use a high level of violence. Some stabbers keep stabbing until they are sure the person is dead. There are also some very personal murders where there is not such a high level of violence.

It is likely that the people who actually wielded the knife/knives against Lindsay had never met her before, since she would have recognised them otherwise. They were assassins doing a task given to them. Nothing personal to them, they were just hired hands. (Possibly they stood to lose out if Lindsay were to interfere with some scam in which they were involved, but nevertheless they had never met her before.)
indeed, just look at the Idaho 4 killer, did not know his victims but horrific amount of violence
 
  • #623
indeed, just look at the Idaho 4 killer, did not know his victims but horrific amount of violence
A lot of the old crime “rules” that we all bandied about for years and years have proven to be less than reliable. Serial killers never stop was another.

Sometimes cases are unsolved because they don’t match up with the rules and the expert opinions.

I don’t have a lot of faith in the Saanich police, but I’ll let them hire their own experts rather than relying on those employed by a network show.
 
  • #624
I don’t have a lot of faith in the Saanich police, but I’ll let them hire their own experts rather than relying on those employed by a network show.
Yes. The police will almost certainly know more than the TV experts. They don't release all the information they have. They often get information from informants etc They might have eliminated certain people.
 
  • #625
Both qualitative data and quantative research shows that, more often than not, overkill is a result of sadosexual desires, or the perpetrator knows their victim in a more intimate capacity than the random stranger.

The Kohberger case, in my opinion, would be sadosexual desire that wasn't able to be carried out to completion. Of course, that's neither here nor there, and irrelevant to the case at hand.

Of course, nothing is absolute. I'm not arguing that Lindsay had to have known her killer(s). If this was a conspiracy to kill then I think we could assume that more than two people were involved. The person(s) who inflicted the violence may not be the person(s) who purchased the cellphone and oversaw the plotting of the crime.

I don't think it's unreasonable to think that this case had some sort of personal element to it. The big question is, where? The scene of the crime and the offender profile are important elements to analyze.
 
  • #626
A lot of the old crime “rules” that we all bandied about for years and years have proven to be less than reliable. Serial killers never stop was another.

Sometimes cases are unsolved because they don’t match up with the rules and the expert opinions.

I don’t have a lot of faith in the Saanich police, but I’ll let them hire their own experts rather than relying on those employed by a network show.
The Saanich police were working alongside Dateline to present Lindsay's case. It was a huge platform for them and they didn't do so without a purpose in mind. If you watch the entire episode, it's hard to brush that aspect off. I don't believe that money was the motive in terms of the collaboration.
 
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  • #627
Yes. The police will almost certainly know more than the TV experts. They don't release all the information they have. They often get information from informants etc They might have eliminated certain people.
I certainly would not refer to them as TV experts. The Dateline NBC Show experts were Yolanda McClary, retired crime scene investigator Las Vegas — Dwayne Stanton retired homicide detective Washington DC and Alan Jackson, former prosector Las Angeles. These guys brought a lot of experience and credibility to the table.
 
  • #628
I certainly would not refer to them as TV experts. The Dateline NBC Show experts were Yolanda McClary, retired crime scene investigator Las Vegas — Dwayne Stanton retired homicide detective Washington DC and Alan Jackson, former prosector Las Angeles. These guys brought a lot of experience and credibility to the table.
Experts on TV.

Whatever the experts' backgrounds, the investigating police have information from a small army of police and forensics people working many hours on the case. They are also much more local than Las Vegas, Los Angeles and Washington DC and know the local scene much better.
 
  • #629
Experts on TV.

Whatever the experts' backgrounds, the investigating police have information from a small army of police and forensics people working many hours on the case. They are also
Experts on TV.

Whatever the experts' backgrounds, the investigating police have information from a small army of police and forensics people working many hours on the case. They are also much more local than Las Vegas, Los Angeles and Washington DC and know the local scene much better.

If what you say is true Professor, then please explain to me why, after 18 years the Saanich Police have made no arrests in this case. This suggests to me that their small army of police and forensics people have not been successful at whatever methods they have employed.

much more local than Las Vegas, Los Angeles and Washington DC and know the local scene much better.
 
  • #630
Not all crimes get solved. In many murders there are fingers prints, DNA or CCTV of cars or people. In this case these things aren't available. Many murders are spontaneous. This one was planned. The motive is also unclear, although maybe the police have worked out a likely motive. I am following several cases like this where there is little to go on. Sadly, some cases will never be solved.
 
  • #631
I am following several cases like this where there is little to go on. Sadly, some cases will never be solved.
Along with many others, I'll keep advocating until they do. I want justice for victims irregardless of the amount of time thats passed. I still have faith that Lindsay and her family will get answers one day.
 
  • #632
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  • #633
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  • #634
We have to keep in mind it could very well be personal, a real estate connection AND drug involvement. It might not have to be one or the other.

Drug money/illicit funds being laundered through real estate.
A small group of people (or one or two) feeling contempt for her/threatened by her if they thought she would expose their scheme.
They could have known her for years, worked alongside her and never liked her or a jealous connection via JZ or whatever...

So it could be storm of all 3 involved. They must've felt extremely desperate to feel this was an option. And then once an option, planned it out with over the top details. MOO JMO
 
  • #635
Both qualitative data and quantative research shows that, more often than not, overkill is a result of sadosexual desires, or the perpetrator knows their victim in a more intimate capacity than the random stranger.

The Kohberger case, in my opinion, would be sadosexual desire that wasn't able to be carried out to completion. Of course, that's neither here nor there, and irrelevant to the case at hand.

Of course, nothing is absolute. I'm not arguing that Lindsay had to have known her killer(s). If this was a conspiracy to kill then I think we could assume that more than two people were involved. The person(s) who inflicted the violence may not be the person(s) who purchased the cellphone and oversaw the plotting of the crime.o d

I don't think it's unreasonable to think that this case had some sort of personal element to it. The big question is, where? The scene of the crime and the offender profile are important elements to analyze.
good points, and I agree about Kohberger. imo the detail that makes Linday's case seem personal, or at least specifically targeted, is the planning that went on to get her to that house at that time. this is not some random stalker waiting for his opportunity to strike.
 
  • #636
By Anna McMillan November 03, 2025
''The mother of slain Vancouver Island Realtor Lindsay Buziak says she believes there are people with evidence about her daughter’s killing, but they may be too scared to come forward.

Evelyn Reitmayer made the rare public statement in a YouTube video posted Sunday. It was shared on the day Buziak would have turned 42, she said.''

''A former homicide detective said cold cases are never closed, but they’re dormant once all investigative avenues have been exhausted.
“You get to a point, sadly, where everybody that can be interviewed has been interviewed (and) every forensic test has been done,” said Mark Mendelson, who worked for the Toronto Police Service.
“It’s a frustrating, horrible position for homicide investigators and for the family of this young woman.”
Nov 3, 2025
On Sunday, the day of Lindsay Buziak’s 42nd birthday, her mother says she’s “frustrated and desperately seeking answers” after learning police have recently closed the active investigation to her daughter’s brutal murder.

Could the suspect be Eastern European/ Russian/Ukrainian, Trans? speculation, imo.
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  • #637
By Anna McMillan November 03, 2025
''The mother of slain Vancouver Island Realtor Lindsay Buziak says she believes there are people with evidence about her daughter’s killing, but they may be too scared to come forward.

Evelyn Reitmayer made the rare public statement in a YouTube video posted Sunday. It was shared on the day Buziak would have turned 42, she said.''

''A former homicide detective said cold cases are never closed, but they’re dormant once all investigative avenues have been exhausted.
“You get to a point, sadly, where everybody that can be interviewed has been interviewed (and) every forensic test has been done,” said Mark Mendelson, who worked for the Toronto Police Service.
“It’s a frustrating, horrible position for homicide investigators and for the family of this young woman.”
Nov 3, 2025
On Sunday, the day of Lindsay Buziak’s 42nd birthday, her mother says she’s “frustrated and desperately seeking answers” after learning police have recently closed the active investigation to her daughter’s brutal murder.

Could the suspect be Eastern European/ Russian/Ukrainian, Trans? speculation, imo.
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Absolutely heartbreaking 💔
 
  • #638
Absolutely heartbreaking 💔
How I wish this one would get solved. I’ve always thought it her BF and mother that did this.
 
  • #639
How I wish this one would get solved. I’ve always thought it her BF and mother that did this.
I did too for a long time but now I think it's an "extension" of them.

So they weren't maybe directly involved but possibly connected to 2-3 people who felt threatened and they were ALL doing shady business, ie: turning illegal, scam, drug money into real estate laundering.

So a web of them connected, but maybe 2-3 did the crime. MOO JMO
 
  • #640

RSBM: You know, that's an interesting thought dotr... maybe not trans but maybe a man was dressed as a woman? I think a woman was involved planning and/or actual act but possible a man dressed as a woman too to physically overtake Lindsay.
 

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