CANADA Canada - Lindsay Buziak, 24, Victoria, BC, 2 Feb 2008

[Lalalacasbah]

That was one of my thoughts as I was running the theory through my head. I think the murder weapon may have been an attempt to confuse investigators. I think the entire scene was probably staged.

Ya, the choice of death, weapon and location breaks off from the whole "lead police to think it's cartel snitch execution" theory a bit to me at this moment (it might change as I flip flop a lot on this thread).

If the conspirators wanted police to think drug dealers did it - they would do it in drug world style, no? ie: drive by shooting, underground parking lot, ambush while exiting home, lure them somewhere remote and do somewhere isolated

So then we have to ask ourselves that question or do pros and cons... why a knife and not a gun?

It may be harder to get a gun in Canada, but that if it's done legally I'm guessing. Surely if it was a 'cartel' or a drug gang 'hit' they'd have underground/black market guns that can't be traced to use. If it was drug gang motivated, that'd be a hell of lot easier, less planning, less headaches, less messy and less risk.

Then we go back to something personal. Who had such contempt for Lindsay to make her suffer?

To me, I feel like that's something that happens over time. Like someone who had known her for a while and it built up and then a "how dare she" moment where that person then decided to hatch a plan to kill her. Almost like her murder was to "put her in her place" or something. Which seems like a woman thing to do or intimate relationship (friendship, business, lover, etc.) JMO MOO

 

[kenziekane]

Ya, the choice of death, weapon and location breaks off from the whole "lead police to think it's cartel snitch execution" theory a bit to me at this moment (it might change as I flip flop a lot on this thread).

If the conspirators wanted police to think drug dealers did it - they would do it in drug world style, no? ie: drive by shooting, underground parking lot, ambush while exiting home, lure them somewhere remote and do somewhere isolated

So then we have to ask ourselves that question or do pros and cons... why a knife and not a gun?

It may be harder to get a gun in Canada, but that if it's done legally I'm guessing. Surely if it was a 'cartel' or a drug gang 'hit' they'd have underground/black market guns that can't be traced to use. If it was drug gang motivated, that'd be a hell of lot easier, less planning, less headaches, less messy and less risk.

Then we go back to something personal. Who had such contempt for Lindsay to make her suffer?

To me, I feel like that's something that happens over time. Like someone who had known her for a while and it built up and then a "how dare she" moment where that person then decided to hatch a plan to kill her. Almost like her murder was to "put her in her place" or something. Which seems like a woman thing to do or intimate relationship (friendship, business, lover, etc.) JMO MOO

The entire murder scene at 1702 DeSousa Place was a theatrical illusion set in motion by a group of people whose main goal was to distract & confuse. The fact that after 18 years of investigation the murder has not been solved, only goes to prove that the conspirators plan was a success. I agree that only a woman could have put this elaborate scheme together, and that woman had to be someone very close to Lindsay. A woman with an axe to grind, not a jealous woman in my opinion, but a woman who was either protecting/covering up for someone else very close to her, and/or protecting herself at the same time.

 

[Cedars]

I agree that only a woman could have put this elaborate scheme together, and that woman had to be someone very close to Lindsay.

Do you have similar cases in mind, that you're thinking of?

 

[Professor Moriarty]

Is this a case where there is some sort of consensus on the island as to who did it? By this I mean do people think they are fairly sure that they know who did it, but it has not been proven?

 

[Cedars]

Is this a case where there is some sort of consensus on the island as to who did it? By this I mean do people think they are fairly sure that they know who did it, but it has not been proven?

IMO, that entirely depends on whether the person trusts or distrusts the Saanich police

I think the police theory is well known, but never directly stated, and people realize they don't have enough proof, and the perps are not even in the country.

Then there are the people, beginning with Jeff Buziak, who believe Saanich police are utterly incompetent and they know far more than police do.

JMO

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Is this a case where there is some sort of consensus on the island as to who did it? By this I mean do people think they are fairly sure that they know who did it, but it has not been proven?

From what I gather, there seems to be an unspoken feeling that a certain group of people very close to Lindsay were involved.

And depending on what people you think, as Cedars said - they may not be in the country. MOO

 

[kenziekane]

From what I gather, there seems to be an unspoken feeling that a certain group of people very close to Lindsay were involved.

And depending on what people you think, as Cedars said - they may not be in the country. MOO

I'll agree that the killers may not be found here in Victoria but I'm confident that the conspirators are still living here right under our noses.

 

[Professor Moriarty]

I'll agree that the killers may not be found here in Victoria but I'm confident that the conspirators are still living here right under our noses.

If that is the case, it would be difficult to get a conviction. No forensic evidence or CCTV. Eye witness evidence not great and relating only to the killers, not to the conspirators. Killers out of the country.

 

[FlamenRed]

The entire murder scene at 1702 DeSousa Place was a theatrical illusion set in motion by a group of people whose main goal was to distract & confuse. The fact that after 18 years of investigation the murder has not been solved, only goes to prove that the conspirators plan was a success. I agree that only a woman could have put this elaborate scheme together, and that woman had to be someone very close to Lindsay. A woman with an axe to grind, not a jealous woman in my opinion, but a woman who was either protecting/covering up for someone else very close to her, and/or protecting herself at the same time.

I still have my suspicions, I did when it first happened, I do not think it is a coincidence that Jasmine Parsons says she received a phone call, I think she said that to deflect suspicion. I think this a love triangle thing. Always has been.

 

[kenziekane]

I still have my suspicions, I did when it first happened, I do not think it is a coincidence that Jasmine Parsons says she received a phone call, I think she said that to deflect suspicion. I think this a love triangle thing. Always has been.

There was no love triangle going on with Jasmine Parsons. Her and Jason had been split for over a year. Jasmine did receive a call the day after the murder, but it turns out that call had no connection to Lindsay's case.

 

[kenziekane]

If that is the case, it would be difficult to get a conviction. No forensic evidence or CCTV. Eyewitness evidence not great and relating only to the killers, not to the conspirators. Killers out of the country.

I agree with you on that one. Seemingly, law enforcement needs to catch the killers first in order to go after the conspirators. If it were me, I would rather see the conspirators go down rather than the killer, after all they were the ones who plotted Lindsay's murder and made sure they got her to the DeSousa house to be slaughtered.

 

[kenziekane]

https://www.facebook.com/61557290425255/posts/122253158156243014

 

[Lalalacasbah]

https://www.facebook.com/61557290425255/posts/122253158156243014

I saw that post in my news feed too! Some photos I haven't seen before of the house.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

I agree with you on that one. Seemingly, law enforcement needs to catch the killers first in order to go after the conspirators. If it were me, I would rather see the conspirators go down rather than the killer, after all they were the ones who plotted Lindsay's murder and made sure they got her to the DeSousa house to be slaughtered.

There must be a way to 'follow the money' but then it would be solved by now.

No paper trail to the murder likely but I hope police have thought outside the box in regards to following paper trails. If they've always been hyper-focused on finding a trail for the murder maybe they need to expand the net to follow others things that might lead to the murder? Not sure that makes sense!

I wish it was like the movies - they load up every single person connected to or tied to the top main suspects,, haul them in for questioning all at once! And I'm not talking a small bunch, I mean like everyone who trickles down the ENTIRE ECHELON - heck even clients who may have even touched the top suspects in any form.

A real shake down kinda thing...Get people a bit panicked, worried, scared.... I bet if police rounded enough people up at one time for questioning something might slip from somewhere. Or maybe wishful thinking on my part. I do that a lot on these threads. JMO MOO