Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #10

[CanadianMade]

I agree with you there. It's just so much stuff out there it's hard to know what's real and what's fiction.
Also this isn't just a Canadian situation. There's the United States involved because of Chynna.
There's Australia because of Lucas.
Obviously Canada's involved because it happened in Canada and the two suspects are Canadian.
So this is an international situation and I'm sure the RCMP and the local detachments and everybody working on this crime including the military are trying to keep things as tight as possible so that there's no mistakes. When this comes all comes together and arrests are made and it all goes to court...they'll want to prosecute and have everything tied up nice and tight.

Too many criminals get away with murder because botched investigations Etc.

Yeah, the whole fact that it's an international thing I think makes the media matters much worse. Too many different people reporting on who even knows what!
I wish I could talk to every apparent witness myself.

 

[otto]

I'm going to take a guess here but I do not think that there was a dog attack or animal attack after they were killed. Both Lucas and China's bodies were laid out specifically look like. Face to the West head towards the North Area ...one in front of the other somewhat. Right arm stretched out at about the 2:00 position ..and. the left was tucked under their chest belly area.
Both bodies were pretty much laid out the same way.

Is that Gray Hughes? The witness said bodies 5 meters apart, identical body positions, which he found unsettling. Heads to the North. Based on the photo that was posted here and from Gray Hughes, the bodies are not 5 meters apart and their heads are not in the same direction - at least that's what it looks like to me. Who is right? The eye witness or the video blogger?

 

[otto]

Just looking at routes from Bird, near Fox Lake Cree Nation, to Gillam, and then to York Landing. It looks like there's a direct path on the hydro line.

 

[CanadianMade]

Yeah reading people's theories are quite interesting. Some theories are well-thought-out and should be published in a book. A crime series of one crime event and many theories.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were some writers here already.

 

[Xyzzia]

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Is that Gray Hughes? The witness said bodies 5 meters apart, identical body positions, which he found unsettling. Heads to the North. Based on the photo that was posted here and from Gray Hughes, the bodies are not 5 meters apart and their heads are not in the same direction - at least that's what it looks like to me. Who is right? The eye witness or the video blogger?

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Exactly you got it right . Who is right? So many theories so many ideas... Different media reports, different Witnesses with different information. Some witnesses tell different stories to different media...different angles of pictures. So yeah 'who is right' that's the question.

 

[otto]

Yeah reading people's theories are quite interesting. Some theories are well-thought-out and should be published in a book. A crime series of one crime event and many theories.

Make your own adventure

 

[mtnstream]

Was looking at GIS for Manitoba (takes forever, my computer is old) really good maps for hydro, mining, railways, roads, etc. They could be traveling in the wilderness, who knows?

I'm not discounting a drug run yet. And they would need help along the way. The major road end at Fox Lake where Toyota RAV was burned (part of Gillum area technically) forks a bit to go way up to Churchill, and that's the end of that northern area. Or, they boated to Port Nelson/York Factory. The Churchill, or York way (east) gives them the ability to keep going down Hudson Bay towards Ontario.

If they got a ride quickly (maybe roughed it for a night or two on the way) back to Kelsey/Thompson (south-west) that means they got to larger communities a lot quicker.

 

[Xyzzia]

I agree with what you’re saying. I was just kind of trying to say there is no possible way IMO the murders took place before dark because they had more than enough opportunities to have assistance getting it off the road further, until it became quite late, as there is constant traffic and everyone stops to offer help. So IMO Once they realized waiting it out wasn’t going to get the van going, they felt they were in a safe enough spot to stay there. If that makes sense? Lol

I was surprised when I went back and saw that the van really appears to have been was left sitting half out on the tarred lane, that is not only weird but really stupid. I now wonder if the guy seen arguing with them was saying let me help push the van off the road before you get hit by another vehicle and killed in the night! In fact, it appears to be so far out into the lane that I am surprised someone didn't complain to the police about that! Imagine driving along at night and suddenly there is an old van sitting halfway sticking out in your lane![/QUOTE]

Yeah one would want to be off the road as far as possible. You don't know if somebody's driving up the highway that's a bit tired you know doing a little swerving on the road trying to stay in the middle. And then all of a sudden you're sleeping and smashed into the back somebody drunk or tired.
But I suppose it doesn't matter if they were on the road or off of the road it ended badly for them

This whole thing is just crappy

 

[otto]

Rcmp are definitely keeping most... If not everything hush-hush.
They said hardly anything really just to be vigilant. Just to be on the lookout for the two suspects. And kinda in what direction they were headed and where they ended up..really
haven't shared any details.
And I guess they haven't shared where K&B ended up either because where they thought they were certainly hasn't panned out thus far.

RCMP are a need to know information source.

 

[Xyzzia]

Well I've got to 4% battery left. It's 3:30 in the morning and I have to get up in a couple hours to start a really busy day. when I wake up in the morning I hope you web sleuth have this all solved and them two young men are sitting in jail.

 

[musicaljoke]

I was surprised when I went back and saw that the van really appears to have been was left sitting half out on the tarred lane, that is not only weird but really stupid. I now wonder if the guy seen arguing with them was saying let me help push the van off the road before you get hit by another vehicle and killed in the night! In fact, it appears to be so far out into the lane that I am surprised someone didn't complain to the police about that! Imagine driving along at night and suddenly there is an old van sitting halfway sticking out in your lane!

There were pictures posted earlier which showed that the vehicle was well off the road. Along the side of the driving land there is wide paved shoulder, and beyond that a gravel shoulder. They were parly on the wide paved shoulder, and partly on the gravel shoulder.

 

[Xyzzia]

Quite certain there was no animal interference. I would lean to the type of gun used (I’m so sorry to say that, god bless them). And you can see the evidence markers behind the van that are the shells/casings. And you may or may not have seen the horrible picture that’s got around of the distance of their bodies to the van.....
Ugh, so heartbreaking!

Thankfully I didn't see the original photos of the bodies without the blur. I am so sorry for this question because it sucks, but if you saw them did it look as if they could have been dragged by a person there and the arms could have ended up that way from dragging?

 

[Xyzzia]

Seen the photo of the bodies which I hate thinking about... But they look like they were laid out and displayed. But that's just my opinion on the way the bodies were positioned

 

[JudgeJudi]

I just done a Google search to see who did report it.

I personally couldn't find anything about the rcmp letting other police Detachment know up to Alaska

Is this what you're after.

Sunday, July 14

Circa 11:30pm – Alandra Hull, road crew supervisor, was returning to her work camp saw and bearded man confronting the couple. They were standing next to the van and he was standing in the middle of the highway. His grey car was parked down the road facing south. She said he looked frustrated. She saw him walk towards the pair and said they looked bothered.

Monday, July 15

circa 6:45am – Trevor Pierre’s (road worker/paramedic) boss, Alandra Hull, called him to say that a young couple had been found dead and he was asked to attend the scene and secure it until police arrived. He saw a trucker who had stopped at the site, visibly upset. The trucker had called RCMP to advise and provided his name so they could follow him up.

Many links have been posted for Alandra Hull, but here's one for Pierre and the trucker:

‘Still troubled by it’: Witness recounts securing the scene of northern B.C. double murder

 

[Francie Starr]

Well I've got to 4% battery left. It's 3:30 in the morning and I have to get up in a couple hours to start a really busy day. when I wake up in the morning I hope you web sleuth have this all solved and them two young men are sitting in jail.

Go to bed. LOL

 

[Xyzzia]

Is this what you're after.

Sunday, July 14

Circa 11:30pm – Alandra Hull, road crew supervisor, was returning to her work camp saw and bearded man confronting the couple. They were standing next to the van and he was standing in the middle of the highway. His grey car was parked down the road facing south. She said he looked frustrated. She saw him walk towards the pair and said they looked bothered.

Monday, July 15

circa 6:45am – Trevor Pierre’s (road worker/paramedic) boss, Alandra Hull, called him to say that a young couple had been found dead and he was asked to attend the scene and secure it until police arrived. He saw a trucker, John Wright, who had stopped at the site, visibly upset. The trucker had called RCMP to advise and provided his name so they could follow him up.

Many links have been posted for Alandra Hull, but here's one for Pierre and the trucker:

‘Still troubled by it’: Witness recounts securing the scene of northern B.C. double murder

Thank you very much for the detailed information.
The question that was presented earlier though was if Alaska Media or Alaska police reported it. And I personally couldn't find any information on Alaska reporting anything.

 

[JudgeJudi]

Thank you very much for the detailed information.
The question that was presented earlier though was if Alaska Media or Alaska police reported it. And I personally couldn't find any information on Alaska reporting anything.

I wasn't entirely sure if I was replying to what you wanted. I'm sorry that I can't help with Alaska reporting.

 

[Allgoodusernamestaken]

I would go off this picture over the witness. I don’t think he lied or anything, maybe he meant 5 feet and he was in shock? I’m not sure but any of those pictures (there are a few different ones sadly) are real and are apparently from before the police arrived on scene (it’s about 4 hour drive from Fort Nelson). And the unblurred ones (I refused to look but my friend did) are apparently showing their heads both in the same direction. She did say more but out of respect to the family and for the sake of the investigation, the way she described the picture, it’s different that what I read a websleuther says it’s been reported as (just up a few scrolls). The arms were different for sure, the rest I’ll leave out. And Like I said, I refused to look myself so keep that in mind.

 

[Manderwin]

Whats our current status with these guys?

 

[CanadianMade]

Seen the photo of the bodies which I hate thinking about... But they look like they were laid out and displayed. But that's just my opinion on the way the bodies were positioned

Thanks for replying on that. Felt gross even asking about it