Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #10

[MistyWaters]

Nobody knows their kid better than a parent. While I doubt he will "go out in a blaze of glory", I believe he is/was "on a suicide mission" and in obvious pain. The kid grew up in a dysfunctional household... just adds to the recipe for disaster.

It appears the father has been absent from most of his son’s life. In another interview iirc he referred to having no contact with his son between the ages of 5 and 16.

“Schmegelsky said he and his wife separated when their son was five. She moved with the boy to the small Vancouver Island community of Port Alberni, where he met McLeod in elementary school and they quickly became inseparable best friends.

They were “everyday, good kids” who didn’t get into trouble, but his son had problems at home and, at 16, briefly moved to Victoria to live with him, Alan Schmegelsky said. The boy then returned to Port Alberni to live with his grandmother.”
Father of suspect in 3 B.C. deaths expects son will go out in 'blaze of glory'

 

[Seattle1]

Map:
Google Maps

Hmmm -- 25 hour drive from Gillam?

 

[happyday]

I don't mean to make light of this but...

From the quotation that Katie Nicholson from CBC The National attributes to a friend of the construction worker, that might leave me crying too...:

"Cindy McKay learned of the incident when she visited the construction site to bring her roommate his lunch. "I mean he was crying and was pretty shaken up. I mean if someone shows you a gun and fingers you... and he's pretty sure that they're the BC suspects."

Katie Nicholson on Twitter

LOL!!!

 

[FactFinder3000]

How seriously can we take the opinion of a man with mental health issues who had limited contact with his son throughout his son's life?

Did you seriously just suggest that opinions of people with mental health issues should not have their opinions taken seriously?

By the way, I noticed this the other day, on the RCMP website:

"Major Crime Units: Supervise, investigate and assist with cases of homicides, attempted murders, suspicious deaths, member-involved deaths (police shootings, cell deaths), missing persons (where foul play is suspected), or any other serious or sensitive occurrence such as serial sexual assault investigations."

So the fact that Major Crime Units was investigating doesn't tell us anything above the fact that it was a suspicious death, because that's one of the things they investigate.

Source: Crime Investigations - Royal Canadian Mounted Police

 

[otto]

It appears the father has been absent from most of his son’s life. In another interview iirc he referred to having no contact with his son between the ages of 5 and 16.

“Schmegelsky said he and his wife separated when their son was five. She moved with the boy to the small Vancouver Island community of Port Alberni, where he met McLeod in elementary school and they quickly became inseparable best friends.

They were “everyday, good kids” who didn’t get into trouble, but his son had problems at home and, at 16, briefly moved to Victoria to live with him, Alan Schmegelsky said. The boy then returned to Port Alberni to live with his grandmother.”
Father of suspect in 3 B.C. deaths expects son will go out in 'blaze of glory'

Exactly. Bryer worked with his father for a couple of weeks, and his father paid him by buying him a nice computer. Bryer then lived with his grandmother. It was his grandmother who last heard from him, and who believed he was on a trip to look for work.

 

[Gardenista]

Different photo of the keys on this story, plus some other photos I've not seen.

A mysterious sighting in the Manitoba manhunt—and then the trail goes cold - Macleans.ca

 

[10ofRods]

None of those keys look like a Dodge key, or like keys to the old GM van. I’m not as familiar with Toyota keys, but one does look possible for it.

Yeah, the one key looks just like my key for my 96 4Runner. RAV4's are way more recent, though (wouldn't it have had one of those key fob thingies? Of course...if you get a replacement, you can get one without the fob...would be a regular Toyota key...)

 

[Estrojane]

The 2 were charged with LD's death because they were seen driving the car he was using, regardless of where LD got the Rav4, loaned to him or his own vehicle. As we know LD was found dead and then the 2 idiots are seen driving it.

LF and CD were shot dead, but were seen arguing with the bearded man who was standing in the middle of the road just to yell at the couple.
So the 2 idiots are considered POI in the couple's death because they may know something, or may even know the bearded man.

MOO from here: The silence from RCMP is absolutely insane! I understand that its an investigation, but it may be time for them to start revealing details because so far the RCMP provided ZERO proof of any kind that CD and LF were killed by the two, the fact that LD was killed in proximity means nothing. I figure the RCMP got no clue on what is really going on, sure seems like it.

Because of RCMP's insane silence I figure this: Bearded man is super angry standing in the middle of the road just to yell, ends up killing LF and CD. Witness account sure seems like bearded man was unhinged in some way. The two suspects simply happened to be close enough to the committed crime. RCMP has not charged them in the couple's death because there is nothing linking them.

Short version of the events as I see them: 2 dudes go to find work, turns out its not that simple, they are driving back, their truck veers off the road and is in flames, they are super angry, all their items, belonging, are gone. They happen upon LD, whom they kill in a fit of rage, unplanned murder but murder nonetheless. They realize what they've done, figure its fine to tell the man helping their names because its still "not that bad", maybe they find out they are wanted in connection with LF CD murder and now are on the run from authorities. Maybe the 2 are so dumb that going to the authorities to admit rage killing LD is scary and they run from consequences. Meanwhile bearded man kills innocent couple and laughs all the way while these 2 are chased by RCMP.

ITS UP TO THE RCMP TO PROVE ME WRONG. NO EVIDENCE, NO COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC IS INEXCUSABLE.

In Canada, the RCMP does not have to share any evidence they don't want to with the public. That's the way it is.

 

[Andreee]

Apologize if this has been posted.
'Cross your fingers': Famed tracker unsure what RCMP can do next to find B.C. fugitives
Terry Grant, an experienced guide and outfitter in the Rocky Mountains and the star of the television series ‘Mantracker,’ said he’s surprised Bryer Schmegelsky, 18, and Kam McLeod, 19, have not been located after more than a week on the lam.

We need you, Mantracker!

 

[MassGuy]

In Canada, the RCMP does not have to share any evidence they don't want to with the public. That's the way it is.

Nor should they have to.

Law enforcement owes us nothing, and isn’t required to supply the public with evidence.

That’s what trials are for.

Now, if they have information about an ongoing threat, then it is their duty to provide certain information in order to ensure public safety.

 

[happyday]

the article did not even state what the poster said either

I alerted on the original post

Well it does in the update at the bottom of the article, but I doubt it’s an approved news source.

 

[Kubirai]

I was checking Dease Lake timeline again. KM/BS was seen at the Super A store at 3PM on July 18. They probably spent July 18/19 night near Stikine River Provincial Park, about 50km south on Hwy 37.

Their still burning red truck was found the next day, July 19, almost simultaneously with body of Leonard Dyck, found on a prominent lookout about 2km further south.

So ... it is actually possible that KM/BS spotted Prof. Dyck camping on July 18/19 night, and decided to murder him the next day.

 

[LoisLane]

If they are in Ontario, you just KNOW they are heading to downtown Toronto.

Need to get these *** TODAY

I’m with you.

Toronto would be a prime spot for them to pull something awful. BS has a bday Aug. 4. The suit, ‘blaze of glory’, the nazi garbage. I’m sure Torontonis in full alert for suspicious activity because of the more recent traumas taken place in their city. I think they will be scooped up in just the nick of time.

 

[afitzy]

Hmmm -- 25 hour drive from Gillam?

Yes, they like a good long drive.

 

[gitana1]

In Canada, the RCMP does not have to share any evidence they don't want to with the public. That's the way it is.

Yup. Protects the investigation and ultimate prosecution. It astounds me how some of the public feel entitled to LE information about a case, prior to trial.

 

[10ofRods]

here is a link to the 2011 RAV4 valet key. It may still have that plastic housing on the top, but maybe it's metal under? I also think it's easier to get a spare valet key made just about anywhere than it is a key fob.

*I hope I am looking up the right year RAV4

Yes it is, and don't ask me how I know.

 

[StevieL]

Clarification on contents of Rav4 in Split Lake

Confirms there were 2 First Nations Safety Officers, who each saw different things inside the Rav4.

From last night's As It Happens podcast on CBC radio:
(RB=interviewer Rosemary Barton, AS=Albert Saunders)

Entire transcript:
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappen...248/july-30-2019-episode-transcript-1.5231935

To hear the full podcast (first interview):
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-tuesday-edition-1.5230248

 

[BearCatSafari]

I meant that the RAV4 contents at Split Lake would probably have included maps and other stuff belonging to Prof. Dyck. Botany books, diaries, etc. All burned to Ash in the fire.

Yet none of those things were apparently seen at the alcohol stop in Manitoba.

But then they were when the RAV4 was on fire. Inconsistent info from witnesses.

 

[Estrojane]

The parents mental health or family dysfunction isn’t a proven marker of who a child will grow up to be, or what they are capable of.

“Long hours playing wilderness games”. More commonly called camping?? Perhaps the established activity they were participating in was sitting around the campfire being lazy and enjoying the great outdoors.

Video games can be a very social activity. Many games demand social interaction to progress in the games. Granted it’s a different type of social interaction than face to face that some people know but make no mistake gaming has become more social than it ever was.

I'm pretty sure these teens were not sitting around a campfire being lazy. They were practicing the "art of war" and were mastering camouflage, as per BS's father's interview.

I don't exactly consider harassing a game opponents with personal information until they capitulate to be any kind of nice social activity. That's what KS would do, according to someone who knows him.

 

[Andreee]

To me it is still possible that there is a dead person in one of those homes in Gillam that is missing a car. Just saying.

I'm thinking it may be that they are holed up in someone's home

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[Sillybilly]

People, please !!

Took about 3 clicks to get a history on the guy who owns the TR**** site. Please check out your sources before bringing unreliable information to Websleuths.

Mainstream Media = MSM
Examples: The Globe & Mail, Toronto Star, Vancouver Sun, CTV, CBC

If you have never heard of something like ABBCDZZ run by a guy named Lord Knows Who or similar, then you can be pretty sure it's not going to be MSM.