Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #13

[Zella]

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Randi Ball, a cashier at the Super A store and gas station in Dease Lake ... saw the men hitchhiking along the highway, each thumbing in a different direction.

Searching for answers: Sense of unease lingers in B.C.’s isolated north as police hunt suspects in remote killings

I've been able to get around that and access whole articles from them by using an incognito tab.

 

[missy1974]

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Randi Ball, a cashier at the Super A store and gas station in Dease Lake ... saw the men hitchhiking along the highway, each thumbing in a different direction.

Searching for answers: Sense of unease lingers in B.C.’s isolated north as police hunt suspects in remote killings

This is the full context...

Randi Ball, a cashier at the Super A store and gas station in Dease Lake, slept with a knife beside her. Another cashier, Crystal Adams, slept with her shotgun.

“It was the first thing like that ever happening around here,” Ms. Ball said.

The two men were recognizable, as was their truck. Some residents of Dease Lake recalled them camping in a lot outside town, and RCMP searched there. Ms. Adams’s said her mother saw the men hitchhiking along the highway, each thumbing in a different direction.

I don't know why they would be hitchhiking? Seems strange to me. JMO

 

[sandbar]

Well, I just would rather not see people thinking that anyone who uses an air soft gun is using it as a 'starter' gun, but sure to each their own.

What do people do with an air soft gun?

 

[MistyWaters]

I can only read the following without subscribing.

Randi Ball, a cashier at the Super A store and gas station in Dease Lake ... saw the men hitchhiking along the highway, each thumbing in a different direction.

Searching for answers: Sense of unease lingers in B.C.’s isolated north as police hunt suspects in remote killings

This is also the subscription-only article where it’s mentioned some residents from Dease Lake recall K&B camping in a lot outside of town.

The description of “a lot” is unusual because that typically refers to private property. I don’t know if that’s connected to the 3rd crime scene but both locations are described as close to the Town of Dease Lake.

“The RCMP has also expanded its efforts to a third location much closer to the town of Dease Lake itself. That scene is also on the side of the highway, but it's unclear what's behind the police tape there.”
Northern B.C. deaths: Investigators probing 3 scenes near Dease Lake

 

[missy1974]

If they were trying to hitchhike, this could give a whole new view to what was happening for them at the time! I want to read about this, but have to pay to read it PressReader.com - Your favorite newspapers and magazines.

Unfortunately the article isn't more clear on the dates of when they were there, maybe there are other articles out there that are more specific.

 

[Kiantra]

A gun has been mentioned in only two of the cases (Lucas and Chynna). No cause of death is available for any of the victims at this time (and it is reported here that the Dyck family hasn't given permission for the CoD to be released, so we may never know).

The pair had a military knife.

My theory is that AS (Bryer's father) may have purchased him a BB gun (and not a plastic pellet gun) and those can kill or at least disable, while some other weapon is used for the kill. We just don't know how the victims died.

I too really wonder how these two got a gun. One theory proposed here is that they took a gun from Lucas (who worked on a property where guns were used and he could have qualified for a PAL, according to some here).

It’s not usual for people to hunt here on the Island. Is it possible Kams family were hunters and had guns? Is that what intrigued him to survival games? Did he take a family gun with him without them knowing?

 

[CanadianMade]

What do people do with an air soft gun?

Basically the same thing people do with paintball guns.

 

[MassGuy]

What do people do with an air soft gun?

You know how people play paintball?

It’s like that, except they use airsoft guns, which shoot plastic bb’s.

According to his dad, his was CO2 powered, and he used to play war games in the woods with his friends.

ETA: @CanadianMade beat me to it.

 

[CanadianMade]

You know how people play paintball?

It’s like that, except they use airsoft guns, which shoot plastic bb’s.

According to his dad, his was CO2 powered, and he used to play war games in the woods with his friends.

ETA: @CanadianMade beat me to it.

It was a close race!

 

[copkid]

Well, I just would rather not see people thinking that anyone who uses an air soft gun is using it as a 'starter' gun, but sure to each their own.

I am not a gun expert, but air soft or starter pistol, I highly doubt either would kill 2 people on the side of the highway. JMO

 

[MistyWaters]

If they were trying to hitchhike, this could give a whole new view to what was happening for them at the time! I want to read about this, but have to pay to read it PressReader.com - Your favorite newspapers and magazines.

But in separate directions, the whole new view isn’t a good one. This has been discussed here before and one possibility is LD was attacked after stopping to give one a ride while the other one hid in the ditch as he approached.

 

[Zella]

I am not a gun expert, but air soft or starter pistol, I highly doubt either would kill 2 people on the side of the highway. JMO

Or cause the damage that allegedly happened to CD's face.

 

[Schmoosh]

Unfortunately the article isn't more clear on the dates of when they were there, maybe there are other articles out there that are more specific.

Thursday July 18 McLeod and Schmegelsky were spotted at Cassiar Mountain Jake Store in Jade City, and then leaving southbound from Super A General Store in Dease Lake at about 3:15 p.m. They were driving a red and grey Dodge pickup truck with a sleeping camper.

The next day, their burning camper van was found
50 kms south of Dease Lake (115 km south of Jade City) and Dyck's body was found

 

[MassGuy]

I am not a gun expert, but air soft or starter pistol, I highly doubt either would kill 2 people on the side of the highway. JMO

Certainly not.

And if the gun BS is holding in that photo is in fact an airsoft gun, which it appears to be, then it is absolutely impossible for that to be the murder weapon.

 

[LadyL]

Yes, if this is how it went at that crime scene, what has been ignored, cherry-picked, left behind or disposed of from the other crime scenes as well?

I doubt it was ignored. It was missed, likely because the keys were on the dirt gravel road, blending into the environment. And also because these are human beings processing these sites and errors happen.

 

[Normancita]

They robbed two people who were stranded on the side of the road. Then they shot them. 4 days later, they stole a vehicle from another man, and they killed him. Then they went on the run, eventually ending up on the Nelson River East Sundance, Manitoba. Their bodies were found earlier this week.

I don’t think they were robbed. Is there a link that verifies this?

 

[JudgeJudi]

I've been able to get around that and access whole articles from them by using an incognito tab.

How do you do that? Can you explain a bit more please.

 

[Francie Starr]

[sbm]

I think someone needs to teach that teenager about Occams Razor.

Gosh. Actually, I think his speculation rather specifically illustrates the Occams Razor theory very well. IMO. MOO. Bodies lying motionless down a grassy slope below their van would very well be all but invisible in the quiet darkness of the night. MOO. If you looking around to see if there were occupants of the vehicle about, the last thing in the world you'd be scanning for, imo, would be people lying in the the grass. MOO

 

[LadyL]

re:keys.... A man convicted of three murders in Ontario had a vehicle key belonging to his 3rd victim on his personal key ring when arrested as a suspect.

I agree with those who think the keys at the burn site of the Rav 4 should have been taken into evidence.

interesting ... who was it so I can look up the case

 

[srper2]

I doubt it was ignored. It was missed, likely because the keys were on the dirt gravel road, blending into the environment. And also because these are human beings processing these sites and errors happen.

Best to read the backward links to this first. I was replying to other comments using those words and indicating that it is fine to ignore evidence at a crime scene if someone believes it to be irrelevant. There are supposed to be set protocols to make sure that things aren't ignored or missed and errors do not happen as this is a triple murder investigation.