CANADA - Lucas Fowler & Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #4

[Kiantra]

Just trying to get in their heads.You kill a couple at night on a deserted highway, as well as another man,in order to switch vehicles.Why burn your vehicle?You have no witnesses , all your gear is in your camper.Why switch vehicles at all?Just carry on and blend in the next day with all the other traffic ,in another location.No one would suspect them or have any reason to be looking for them.To take the RAV4 was not necessary and will lead to them being caught sooner.Do I make any sense?

Exactly, my question as well. And, why turn back west again after the couple? Something must have happened in between and prompt them to take the rav4. Just seems odd to me.

 

[missy1974]

Just trying to get in their heads.You kill a couple at night on a deserted highway, as well as another man,in order to switch vehicles.Why burn your vehicle?You have no witnesses , all your gear is in your camper.Why switch vehicles at all?Just carry on and blend in the next day with all the other traffic ,in another location.No one would suspect them or have any reason to be looking for them.To take the RAV4 was not necessary and will lead to them being caught sooner.Do I make any sense?

Maybe they were having mechanical issues with the truck? It was also probably taking a ton of gas to drive lol Different vehicle, faster, no problems, and cheaper on gas?

 

[CdnCat]

i can't confirm this but i ran this through some filter in ps
but it looks like they ran a tool over the shirt and possible some of his face along some sort of black tool to mess with the shirt along with the crappy camera its removed details from his shirt and face
i wonder if they already knew this was them

I am not seeing the resemblance other than this guy has a beard. The nose is different, the eyes are different and the hair is different. This man looks older.

 

[PingTheRouter]

This man looks older.

i don't know either but why edit the video... to protect their identify then? its 100% been played with

 

[3blue1pink]

i can't confirm this but i ran this through some filter in ps
but it looks like they ran a tool over the shirt and possible some of his face along some sort of black tool to mess with the shirt along with the crappy camera its removed details from his shirt and face
i wonder if they already knew this was them

This is the pic from someone’s Twitter feed of possibly Kam in front of Chynna and Lucas’ Van ..

 

[nao]

They like fires maybe they have bomb making skills. I wonder how long they will keep searching the area for them.

 

[benjaboston]

i can't confirm this but i ran this through some filter in ps
but it looks like they ran a tool over the shirt and possible some of his face along some sort of black tool to mess with the shirt along with the crappy camera its removed details from his shirt and face
i wonder if they already knew this was them

More likely they already knew it wasn’t them, so they hid the innocent man’s face...

 

[CdnCat]

84yo Mary Byman is MISSING after berry picking in Spur Woods on July 24. Last seen around 4pm wearing a long-sleeved blue & white checkered blouse. Mary has limited mobility & is hard of hearing. She may have made her way to #MBHwy201. Have info? Contact #rcmpmb at 204-437-2041

From RCMP Manitoba Twitter.

I don't know. It sounds like she was on foot. I am afraid she is lost in the woods. I do hope they find her soon

 

[Inthedetails]

Exactly, my question as well. And, why turn back west again after the couple? Something must have happened in between and prompt them to take the rav4. Just seems odd to me.

Regarding going west again after the couple, maybe they forgot something somewhere on their trip and went back to retrieve it?

just brainstorming

jmo

 

[jillybean51]

Maybe they were having mechanical issues with the truck? It was also probably taking a ton of gas to drive lol Different vehicle, faster, no problems, and cheaper on gas?

Why kill 3 people though?Why not just steal a car somewhere?

 

[tmar]

Best friends, Nazi regalia and camouflage: What we know about Bryer Schmegelsky and Kam McLeod.


Chelsea McLaughlin
3 hrs ago
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Kam and Bryer, best friends.
McLeod and Schmegelsky were best friends since primary school.

After graduating high school earlier this year, they got jobs together at Walmart, but the money was not great so after just five weeks they told family they were going to find better wages in Alberta.

The duo have a very limited presence on social media.

An Instagram profile under Schmegelsky's name had one post of the teen from June 9. Its profile photo is a photo of him with his arm slung around McLeod.
...
A Facebook profile under his name included an image shared in 2015 that read: "Guns don't kill people. It's mostly the bullets."

The Globe and Mail reported that both teens were linked to a Facebook and YouTube page called Illusive Gameing (sic). Mamamia has not been able to verify these accounts, which have since been deleted.

The Globe reported that there were similarly named accounts on the video game streaming platform Twitch and digital games marketplace Steam, and they all shared similar imagery and themes, including the Communist icon, far-right politics, sexualised Japanese anime and the survivalist video game Rust.

A user who claimed to have met Schmegelsky on the gaming site Steam, who spoke to CBC News on the condition of anonymity, said that the 18-year-old was fascinated by Nazi history and last year sent him photos of his Nazi regalia.

Lisa Lucas, the mother of one of Schmegelsky's former friends, recalled how he and her son would play video games together.

As years went by, however, her son became worried and began distancing himself from Schmegelsky.

"He just gave off a weird kind of a vibe, like he just made him feel uncomfortable," Lucas said.

"[Her son] remembers seeing it on one of his social media, the Nazi symbol.

"Everybody in this community just hopes there’s a misunderstanding.”

McLeod’s friend Branden McHale told CBC McLeod was a happy person who loved video games, like League of Legends, and was "really funny".
...

 

[happyday]

Just trying to get in their heads.You kill a couple at night on a deserted highway, as well as another man,in order to switch vehicles.Why burn your vehicle?You have no witnesses , all your gear is in your camper.Why switch vehicles at all?Just carry on and blend in the next day with all the other traffic ,in another location.No one would suspect them or have any reason to be looking for them.To take the RAV4 was not necessary and will lead to them being caught sooner.Do I make any sense?

You make total sense to me! Burning those vehicles was like leaving big signs saying, “WE WERE HERE!”
Either they are that stupid or it’s a part of the “game” they are playing.

 

[PingTheRouter]

More likely they already knew it wasn’t them, so they hid the innocent man’s face...

yeah i said the same above as well.. hmm odd is this normal in Canada? they don't tend to do this here in Aus or if they do its more noticeable with a black bar over the eyes

 

[Deleted member 248860]

Could this be assistance as in LE from ON being brought in? Did say LE from others provinces would be brought in. Not sure if it implies there's reason to belive the two are in ON.

The Ontario border is not that far from Gillam. This could just be a matter of the Ontario Provincial Police helping with aircraft search.

 

[daikon.radish]

I was surprised to find the boys still at large when I woke up this morning. I really thought they’d have been captured by now.

The story is still major news here (story from ABC news) and I think it will continue to be, simply because of the Australian victim. It’s a very emotional case with such young people involved. But I’m really hoping for a swift, safe conclusion to it all!

 

[MassGuy]

Why kill 3 people though?Why not just steal a car somewhere?

Because the whole point was probably to kill.

That’s the fantasy.

 

[PingTheRouter]

I was surprised to find the boys still at large when I woke up this morning. I really thought they’d have been captured by now.

i think tomorrow that gives them enough days to run out of food and water and start to have to look for options

 

[Ruprect]

I think they changed vehicles (burning their own) because they thought someone may have noticed them. Just passing a car within a few k's of the scene would be enough to start them thinking. Obviously it was a huge mistake but given the random nature of their initial target, not a lot of planning went into any of it.

 

[10ofRods]

A question that just occurred to me. If these guys are in the woods, do they even know that they are at significant risk of hypothermia?

Probably not. I teach students that age. If I ask "how far can you jump off something onto a hard surface and be absolutely certain you won't break something" they'll say "20 feet" or even "30 feet." So we go outside and I point out the architectural details on our building corresponding to that (and they still think they could jump onto the sidewalk with virtually no or no chance of injury).

Hypothermia? Young men that age say "No way, I'm fit!" I tell them that people have died of hypothermia in the Pacific Ocean when it was 58F water and they don't believe me (people have died in warmer water, 58F is almost always fatal if in the water for more than a few minutes and especially if your head is going under).

 

[daikon.radish]

Regarding going west again after the couple, maybe they forgot something somewhere on their trip and went back to retrieve it?

just brainstorming

jmo

Maybe they’d decided to go home? But then realised/thought that they couldn’t, or that this was their chance to just go out in a blaze of gunfire? <- I know, that’s ridiculous, but who knows? Really, they’re so young, they don’t know what they’re doing. I can’t believe much if this was well planned at all.