CANADA - Lucas Fowler & Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #6

[missy1974]

Pretty stunning since the max payouts under the tainted blood class action were about $250,000.

Victims of Canada’s tainted blood scandal to share $207M compensation fund surplus

I don't know that the wife actually thought he was rich or was to become rich. I think the guy is a little on the paranoid side and he might not be the most accurate story teller. He still has an axe to grind against his wife.

Did this settlement include those that got AIDS? This one sounds like it is just the Hepatitis C one. Unfortunately, I know at least 2 people that got Hep C during that time, one being my step-daughters best friend who needed a blood transfusion shortly after being born. I recall her (or her parents) getting some payments, but I never thought they were that large. JMO

 

[Errrr]

The wife either. The tainted blood scandal happened in the eighties. If his son was conceived 19 years ago then someone with AIDS wasn’t using protection. At least, according to his book.

Sorry, I didn’t read the excerpt. I assumed an $80 million lawsuit would be a first person event.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Except none of my posts ever suggested either of those things. People were on fire about other posts and some are attributing others' words to me. It's appalling that I am now being accused of writing things I did not write - like third world stuff.

Honestly, this has become a free for all. It's shameful.

Canadians are probably a little taken aback with suggestions that RCMP should fly helicopters, or that RCMP did something wrong when it took them 4 hours to reach a crime scene that was 4 hours from the nearest populated area.

 

[minn77]

Somebody posted an article last night about the government warning workers not to talk. The reporter tweeted she is also having trouble getting non-government workers to talk. She said, in her experience, this his highly unusual. I'm not sure WTH is going on with this.

More and more people are aware of how the press can misconstrue things and put words into peoples mouths, i for one dont blame anyone for not talking to the press

 

[Betty P]

As much as I pity Alan S. and his mental health problems; he seems to be going a bit haywire from stress at the moment. I have to wonder where Bryer got the idea, as per the article in the Globe and Mail(I think!), that harassing gaming opponents until they quit, using personal information he gleened on them, was an okay strategy to implement? Did he learn this by observing his father, since harrassment was one of his father's strategies used against the boy's mother ?

"The father of one of the teenagers at the centre of a nationwide manhunt was charged with harassing his estranged wife, according to court documents."

Or is it some genetic aberration in normal thinking that got passed down from father to son?

I'm reluctant to say it, but are we looking at father and son being "grievance collectors"?

 

[SnooperDuper]

My question was about the distance of 4 hours. I am unaware of anywhere in the lower 40 where a 4 hour response time is the norm.

That's because there are few places (e.g., non-urban Nevada) in the US that are as barren as Canada 100km north of the US-Canada border. You seem to think there is a town every 15 minutes' drive in the northern part of our country. It's not at all like that. You could drive for hours between towns. A lot of northern communities don't even have roads and are fly-in only.

 

[Deleted member 248860]

Also the reporter makes clear that the location of the RAV4 fire is between 2 key roads out of the area (to Gillam and to Winnipeg).

Nine News Sydney on Twitter

Provincial Road 280 is the only road out of the area. Provincial Road 290 (sign also shown in the video) is 25km/15 miles long and strictly local.

 

[otto]

I get the impression, from what little I know about the 2, that they were in no rush. If they had food and water and a place to sleep, they were probably more than content to wait until the next day and either call for help or wait for someone to stop. I recall that someone saw them sitting in lawn chairs by the van, seems like they were relaxed and not really worried about it. Not everyone is in a rush to get where they are going, especially at this time of year in my experience, and especially in BC. JMO

Going back to the original point, regarding tourists who are 4 hours from the nearest populated area, my question is about their lack of urgency to solve the problem of a disabled vehicle on the side of a highway from 3:30 - 11:30PM, and whether they would have made the same choices if they were at home. People on vacation want to have fun, and, as I said, too often leave common sense at home.

We've read that hitch hiking is very rare in Australia. Anyone who has read about Ivan Milat knows the reason. There are also camper van tourist murders in Australia. Knowing that there are significant risks associated with being stranded in the middle of nowhere in Australia, why would anyone assume that the same is not true in any other country?

 

[Gina20]

"Mad Trapper" Johnson evaded capture for several months, during the Arctic winter.

But today, he would have been spotted quickly by thermal imaging.

Maybe. He did however, show almost superhuman determination in his flight from capture. He serves as a lesson in what can go wrong and how things can be mishandled, even when police outnumber suspects.

Quite surprisingly to me, he was disinterred, and radioisotopes proved that he was likely Scandinavian (Norwegian). He was a relative newcomer to the area, yet a survivor. He wanted to be left alone, and when he wasn't, it didn't end well. We still don't know who he really was.

It is a lesson that still holds. Technology is one thing. Human factors are another.

 

[KR72]

I've been trying to get as much of the picture as possible. If the suspects for example manage to make it into Ontario or Quebec would the primary case responsibility still reside with the RCMP? Both these provinces have their own police forces which are sizable.

They would work in conjunction, same as if the suspects made it into a town or city that has its own police force such as Winnipeg or Brandon for example.

 

[scrappinkat]

There is no published RCMP information that links all 3 victims to same firearm.

It’s not even published that all three died due to a firearm. The cause of death for LD has not been officially stated.

 

[Cdndadeh]

I think most people would be suspicious of purchasing a camper from an 18 and 19 year old in a remote location. If you purchase something from someone other than the registered owner, you would need to return the item to the rightful owner and you could only recover the funds from the person you paid the $$$ to. The camper would need its own comprehensive and collision coverage or an endorsement adding it on the vehicle insurance. I would want to have ownership and registration verified independently.

The camper is a separate entity from the truck. These are often found in people’s driveways and yards for sale. A camper of this age likely wouldn’t have an ownership nor would most ask for it on a unit this old.

 

[LadyL]

I think with young men this age, in distress, that at some point one or both of them would want their mother, especially after an injury. This could be the key to bringing them out of the bush. Drop leaflets with a mother's message, go in with a recorded message and blare it in the woods? I don't know how this would work, but maybe it would have, if done sooner.

Not a critique of anyone, just a statement of how young men's minds normally work in normal situations. Which these are not. MOO. No more to say on this element.

I don't think psychopaths really care what their mothers have to say. JMO.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

I don’t think you did or said anything wrong. When people misinterpret or misrepresent a post I have made I usually explain it once then move on. Otherwise there’s too much back and forth and distraction from the actual topic here. I would just ignore people who are trying too hard to dissect a comment you made.

Yes. I apologize to the mods for ever responding. I thought I could point out what my posts actually said but it does no good. Now a whole lot of stuff will have to be deleted. I need to charge my device anyway.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Did this settlement include those that got AIDS? This one sounds like it is just the Hepatitis C one. Unfortunately, I know at least 2 people that got Hep C during that time, one being my step-daughters best friend who needed a blood transfusion shortly after being born. I recall her (or her parents) getting some payments, but I never thought they were that large. JMO

Yes it was both HIV and Hep C. The payouts were as low as $10,000.

 

[10ofRods]

Pewdiepie has over 95 million subscribers. I think it’s nothing.

Well, it means something. Pewdiepie is not everyone's cuppa. He's absolutely repulsive (and not funny) to some. But yes, he has a world wide following of gamers, pranksters and others. He is definitely the kingpin of an entirely new approach to online communities via gaming and game chat.

His fan base (as judged by such places as reddit) leans heavily male, aged 10-30.

 

[otto]

My question was about the distance of 4 hours. I am unaware of anywhere in the lower 40 where a 4 hour response time is the norm.

There are 330 million people in the third largest country in the world, and 35 million in the second largest country. It makes sense that people can drive several hours from a populated area in Canada.

 

[Estrojane]

I'm reluctant to say it, but are we looking at father and son being "grievance collectors"?

They very well may be, but the son has murderous compulsion in addition.

 

[LadyL]

It’s really weird! I’ve seen some moose way up north but never deer and I was still
Basically in the city. I’m in Kitchener area and we went to Guelph lake and a deer was just chilling out. Lol.

hm I'm only 1-1/2 hrs away from you
I've never seen moose but I haven't traveled up north that much as an adult
like Sudbury is north to me lol

 

[SnooperDuper]

I'm reluctant to say it, but are we looking at father and son being "grievance collectors"?

Yes, I think that is a good way of putting it.