GUILTY Canada - Marie-France Comeau, 37, & Jessica Lloyd, 27, slain, Ont, 2009 & 2010 - #3

[Macright]

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/February2010/11/c9164.html

I have read on another site that TA had the rights from RW to write this book but I somehow find that info false as TA is a crime writer and latched on to this case within days and announced he was writing a book. The only way RW is involved is that of being the main character....

 

[Macright]

I recall shortly after his arrest that he was writing in a diary in code, but this refers to "communiques", which to me means letters/correspondence. Anyone know if prisoners who haven't yet gone to trial are allowed uncensored mail? I am concerned if he is communicating with anyone in code (possibly through letters given to his lawyer?). Seems we can add cryptology to his acquired skills. Wonder what he is hiding.

his "cryptology skill" would be a throwback from his military experience but it is probably so outdated that only he would understand it...

 

[Hazel]

Where is this coming from? I couldn't see anything referring to codes. Is there a link, please?

I was answering to PinkPanthers post # 334 ~~ I haven't been following this case lately, but some time ago, it was reported that RW was writing letters in code. I'm playing catch-up right now, once I'm done, will go searching for a link regarding that

ETA: I see Flipflop and Wondergirl already provided a different link each. :blowkiss: Thank you Flip and Wondergirl!
:blowkiss:

I'm almost caught up, and I see that thanks to that, there was new info found. I have never read before that RW took JL to his cottage, unless TA means to the area close to his cottage. We had wondered about that before, if she was taken alive from her house or not

 

[Hazel]

his "cryptology skill" would be a throwback from his military experience but it is probably so outdated that only he would understand it...

It depends on the type of cipher. All he would need to do is let the person to decipher know the cipher name and the code word Just as an example, one type of cipher could be Vigenere Cipher, there are many others more complex and more difficult to decrypt.

 

[antiquegirl]

I recall shortly after his arrest that he was writing in a diary in code, but this refers to "communiques", which to me means letters/correspondence. Anyone know if prisoners who haven't yet gone to trial are allowed uncensored mail? I am concerned if he is communicating with anyone in code (possibly through letters given to his lawyer?). Seems we can add cryptology to his acquired skills. Wonder what he is hiding.

Dictionary.com's definition of communiqué:

–noun
an official bulletin or communication, usually to the press or public.

n. An official announcement.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/communique

It's MOO that this "source" used that word because (s)he had no idea what where the code actually appeared. Obviously, (s)he also had no idea what the word meant.

If this coded writing exists, then the only way anyone would know about it is if everything RW writes (and does) is being monitored. It couldn't refer to uncensored mail if someone knows of its existence. He would not be writing in code to his lawyer, nor would his lawyer read his private mail or leak it to outside sources.

IMO, if there is such writing, it's probably in the form of a journal which is being read on a regular basis by prison authorities and leaked by a guard with a big mouth (and not necessarily to the reporter). Otherwise, it's a false rumour.

I, too, would love to know what he's hiding and if they have been able to decipher any of it.

JMO, as always.

 

[Hazel]

AG, did you see the other article that Wondergirl posted above? Her post #341 -- so we now have:
diary and communiqués

He has been writing in a diary in what appears to be code. The writings are seen by staff who search his cell. The code appears between sentences he writes about the mundane affairs of daily life in a jail.

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/04/05/13474776-qmi.html

 

[antiquegirl]

AG, did you see the other article that Wondergirl posted above? Her post #341 -- so we now have:
diary and communiqués



http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/04/05/13474776-qmi.html

Yep, I did, Hazel. And I remember the original report using the word "diary"; hence I'm guessing a journal of some sort. I believe that the word "communiqués" was a mistake used by a "source" not clear on the actual medium and unfamiliar with the meaning. I would hate to think that an experienced journalist (TA) wouldn't know its dictionary definition, but stranger things have happened.

JMO

 

[Hazel]

Yep, I did, Hazel. And I remember the original report using the word "diary"; hence I'm guessing a journal of some sort. I believe that the word "communiqués" was a mistake used by a "source" not clear on the actual medium and unfamiliar with the meaning. I would hate to think that an experienced journalist (TA) wouldn't know its dictionary definition, but stranger things have happened.

JMO

You think they could photocopy it while he goes for his video appearances? I know, they cannot do that. I'm just dying to know what those code writings are

 

[antiquegirl]

You think they could photocopy it while he goes for his video appearances? I know, they cannot do that. I'm just dying to know what those code writings are

If by "they" you mean prison officials, I think they can do pretty much whatever they want, legal or otherwise. That doesn't mean what they have would be permissible as evidence in a court of law, or ever be made public.

It's so hard to be patient, isn't it?

JMO

 

[LilyMacBloom]

AG, did you see the other article that Wondergirl posted above? Her post #341 -- so we now have:
diary and communiqués



http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/04/05/13474776-qmi.html

In the above article last updated april 5/ it states his wife was visiting him weekly. Wonder if she still is? What on earth would you talk about?

 

[Hazel]

If by "they" you mean prison officials, I think they can do pretty much whatever they want, legal or otherwise. That doesn't mean what they have would be permissible as evidence in a court of law, or ever be made public.

It's so hard to be patient, isn't it?

JMO

Oh I can be very patient when it comes to waiting for justice to be done, but I'm very curious when it comes to solving codes, ciphers and mysteries.

 

[Hazel]

In the above article last updated april 5/ it states his wife was visiting him weekly. Wonder if she still is? What on earth would you talk about?

I read somewhere, that she didn't need to go personally to get RW's signature. That that could have easily been done by appointed lawyers. Could some of our legal experts confirm this please? Or did MEH actually had to go in person in order to ask him to sign the property transfer papers, and all other pertinent documents?

Also, in the hypothetical event that there were also divorce papers to be signed, did she have to bring those herself?

Weekly visits do seem a bit too often to me, JMO.

 

[Hazel]

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Ac...890/story.html

Accused killer’s wife devastated

Impact of charges revealed in affidavit

OTTAWA-The wife of Col. Russell Williams says she has been devastated by charges against him in connection with two sex killings, two home invasions involving sexual assaults and 82 lingerie break-ins, including 34 in Orléans.

Mary Elizabeth Harriman, 52, has not spoken publicly since her husband’s arrest in February. For the first time, the impact of those charges on Harriman were revealed in an affidavit filed in a Belleville court.

“The revelation of these charges has been devastating to me,” Harriman said.

“As a result of the charges, my previously anticipated future and financial security had become jeopardized,” the affidavit said.

© Copyright (c) The Ottawa Citizen

respectfully bolded and snipped by me for brevity

my apologies for 3rd. post in a row.

Just found this blog. Interesting take on MEH declaration (I guess we missed that):

And that brings me to the second point: she says she lost her security as a result of the charges.Since the charges were a direct result of the Colonel’s alleged actions, I would say she lost her security as a result of her husband’s actions, not as a result of the charges. Maybe it’s a minor detail, but the implication is that it’s the system’s fault rather than her husband’s fault.

read more: http://www.knitnut.net/2010/06/do-you-think-she-knew/

 

[pinkeyesucks]

Alright, I am going back a few weeks now, and thinking about stuff....and it's been a long day with a sick kid so I've been googling.....

Remember the unique suicide attempt? I used to wonder if he was the only person to every attempt suicide by shoving a toilet paper tube down his throat. I came up with this one....hmmmmm, wonder where he got the idea....

"SAN DIEGO (CBS/AP) A sailor charged with killing a fellow sailor, who was gay, committed suicide in a military jail by stuffing toilet paper in his mouth until he could no longer breath, according to a U.S. Navy spokesman.

Petty Officer Jonathan Campos was found unresponsive in his cell at Camp Pendleton about 12:20 p.m. Friday, said Navy spokesman Doug Sayers. He was rushed to the base hospital where he was pronounced dead about an hour later."

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8300-504083_162-504083.html?keyword=Jonathan+Campos#ixzz0sBTMSPjq


Here I thought he came up with it himself. Very disappointed.....

 

[Summersolstice]

Alright, I am going back a few weeks now, and thinking about stuff....and it's been a long day with a sick kid so I've been googling.....

Remember the unique suicide attempt? I used to wonder if he was the only person to every attempt suicide by shoving a toilet paper tube down his throat. I came up with this one....hmmmmm, wonder where he got the idea....

"SAN DIEGO (CBS/AP) A sailor charged with killing a fellow sailor, who was gay, committed suicide in a military jail by stuffing toilet paper in his mouth until he could no longer breath, according to a U.S. Navy spokesman.

Petty Officer Jonathan Campos was found unresponsive in his cell at Camp Pendleton about 12:20 p.m. Friday, said Navy spokesman Doug Sayers. He was rushed to the base hospital where he was pronounced dead about an hour later."

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8300-504083_162-504083.html?keyword=Jonathan+Campos#ixzz0sBTMSPjq


Here I thought he came up with it himself. Very disappointed.....

The aluminum foil, however, was unique.

 

[pinkeyesucks]

The aluminum foil, however, was unique.

I concur Perhaps he ran out of tissue. I hate when that happens.

My husband pointed out that it seemed interesting that both RW and the seaman that was successful in killing himself were both military. Don't draw any wacky conclusions thinking that they might somehow be working together on crime, just that they are both members of a military community, and both incarcerated for murder, and both attempted to off themselves in a similar manner.

 

[antiquegirl]

The aluminum foil, however, was unique.

Also, IIRC, RW didn't use toilet paper, but the cardboard tube stuffed with aluminum foil. The materials available in a prison cell are pretty limited, so one has to make do with whatever is available.

JMO

 

[Summersolstice]

I concur Perhaps he ran out of tissue. I hate when that happens.

My husband pointed out that it seemed interesting that both RW and the seaman that was successful in killing himself were both military. Don't draw any wacky conclusions thinking that they might somehow be working together on crime, just that they are both members of a military community, and both incarcerated for murder, and both attempted to off themselves in a similar manner.

But did the guards say, "foiled again"?

 

[Wondergirl]

Colonel Williams Wife Doesn’t Show Up

Posted 22 hours ago

Tue, Jun 29th, '10 - 12:17 pm


Photographers were at Superior Court in Belleville hoping to catch a glimpse of the wife of the former base commander at CFB Trenton. but, the motion expected to be filed Mary Elizabeth Harriman in connection with a civil suit filed by Jane Doe of Tweed was adjourned until late next month. The wife of Colonel Russell Williams hasn’t been seen since his arrest in early February

http://www.quintenews.com/2010/06/colonel-williams-wife-doesnt-show-up/

 

[Wondergirl]

Harriman's civil motion filing adjourned to July 27

WIFE OF DISGRACED COL. RUSS WILLIAMS

Posted By W. BRICE MCVICAR THE INTELLIGENCER

Posted 1 hour ago

A motion expected to be filed in the Ontario Superior Court by accused murderer Col. Russell Williams' wife has been adjourned to next month.

Mary-Elizabeth Harriman was scheduled to file the motion at the Belleville court house on Tuesday but the matter has been adjourned to July 27. The motion, which is in response to a law suit filed by Jane Doe, an alleged sexual assault victim of Williams, will request that Harriman's personal information will be "sealed, treated as confidential and shall not form part of the public record."

According to court documents obtained by The Intelligencer, Harriman is requesting an order be granted restricting the publication or disclosure of any particular details of her professional life, any details on her financial situation and anything pertaining to the management of her legal affairs which have not yet been disclosed as part of the public record.

The grounds for the motion, the papers state, include the fact Harriman is an associate executive director of the Heart and Stroke Foundation of Canada and her "reputation in the community is exemplary." In addition, the charges against her husband have had "a devastating impact" on her and further publication of information regarding Harriman's life "will have a significant negative impact upon her."

http://www.intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2647104

and

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/06/29/14553686.html

BBM: I am curious as to where the grounds for the motion stand from a legal perspective. I do not see where her career or reputation should have an impact on the outcome of the legalities of the case. RW himself had a career and a reputation above reproach. I wonder what the rule of law is on this, specifically since it is civil litigation?

This is a question I am wondering about, I am throwing it out there, and it is my opinion only.