GUILTY Canada - Marie-France Comeau, 37, & Jessica Lloyd, 27, slain, Ont, 2009 & 2010 - #3

[Summersolstice]

I found a cached copy from the Edmonton Journal.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c....'"&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-a

Snowball is greatly relieved. Thank you, Hazel and AG.

 

[Sillybilly]

... Several of these deaths occurred in 2007 and just now coming to schedule for inquest ...

The wide gap of time between the deaths and the inquest being scheduled is troublesome....witnesses die, move away to unknown locations, memories fade, records are destroyed. It takes 2 1/2 years to decide whether "foul play is suspected" ??

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There is however a "coroner's investigation", and that process can vary depending on the circumstances. It is through the investigation that a decision is made as to whether or not an inquest is warranted.

 

[deputydawg2]

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There is however a "coroner's investigation", and that process can vary depending on the circumstances. It is through the investigation that a decision is made as to whether or not an inquest is warranted.

Thank you, sillybilly. Explanations like you gave help to remove erroneous conceptions, or modify the conceptions we have to accommodate the new information.

I'm still hoping that the forensic exam will include testing for diatoms in the bone marrow. The absence of which will indicate death before entry into the river; presence of which will indicate drowning. (I hope I have that right.)

 

[pinkeyesucks]

Thanks, sillybilly. The connection between RW and Ontario based construction companies is very interesting. Below is the link to the schedule of Coroners' inquests released 06/29/2010 for Ontario. Several of these deaths occurred in 2007 and just now coming to schedule for inquest. Appears to me to be a large number of deaths that happened at construction sites.

Ontario; Ministry of Community Safety & Correctional Services; Office of the Chief Coroner; Schedule of Inquests; Inquests Announced as of June 29, 2010:

Deceased/ Date of Inquest/ Location of Inquest/ Presiding Coroner / Details / News Release

http://www.mcscs.jus.gov.on.ca/english/office_coroner/schedule_inquests/schedule_inquests.html#skipmenu

I was just recalling the old stories of bodies recovered from construction sites....remember the 3 civil rights workers in the South, found some 30 years later?

The wide gap of time between the deaths and the inquest being scheduled is troublesome....witnesses die, move away to unknown locations, memories fade, records are destroyed. It takes 2 1/2 years to decide whether "foul play is suspected" ??

Uh, I don't mean to appear like an idiot, but the construction site deaths (if you read the news releases) all state that the parties in question died from injuries received during the course of [their] employment at construction sites in their respective regions. Not that their bodies were discovered there and that there was foul play suspected or that needed to be ruled out. It also states that they hold the inquests (as required by law) to prevent similar deaths from occurring. So, knowing the construction business, I am not sure I see a connection between the inquests and foul play? Could you help me out?

I can confidently say that in the Quinte region there have been no bodies found on construction sites.....It is rare that they even have accidents.

 

[Wondergirl]

It must have been extremely difficult for Andy to attend this court appearance.



Colonel Russell Williams, the former airbase commander accused of murdering two women and sexually assaulting two others, appeared briefly in court by videolink Thursday and had his case put over for another month, until Aug. 26.

It was his fifth court appearance since his arrest and his fourth by video from Quinte Detention Centre in Napanee, where he is being held.

Clad as usual in his orange jumpsuit, Col. Williams looked lean and healthy.

Among the spectators in the small crowded courtroom was Andy Lloyd, 29, the older brother of murder victim Jessica Lloyd.

It was his first glimpse of Col. Williams since the charges were laid.

“It's something I have to do for myself, obviously it's a bit of a shock but I'm prepared for it,” he said afterward.

“We've got a lot of people helping us out.”

Arrested in Ottawa on Feb. 7 after a six-hour interrogation by provincial police....She was kidnapped and killed in late January and her body found in a patch of thick woodland outside Tweed, a few hours after Col. Williams was arrested.

A longtime executive with the Ottawa-based Heart and Stroke Foundation of Canada, Ms. Harriman has been in seclusion since her husband's arrest, but has visited him in the Quinte jail a number of times.

Shortly after he was charged with murder, Col. Williams transferred ownership of the Ottawa home to her, while he secured title to the less-valuable house in Tweed.

The lawsuit and any other civil actions will not be dealt with until the criminal case is resolved.

Military proceedings are also on hold.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...-makes-brief-court-appearance/article1648356/

 

[Wondergirl]

Russell Williams, wearing an orange jumpsuit, looked calm and emotionless in his appearance via video from the Quinte Detention Centre in Napanee, Ont., shortly after 9:30 a.m.



Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/Emba...lliams+court/3309212/story.html#ixzz0uQIFZVGf
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[Wondergirl]

A former Canadian Forces commander charged with murder will appear in court for a pre-trial hearing next month.

Such hearings are held so that a judge can weigh the evidence against the accused and decide whether a trial is warranted.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/lo...ppearance-100722/20100722/?hub=TorontoNewHome

 

[Wondergirl]

Seeing this picture of Andy, Jessica's brother, is sad. He is a good, strong brother, that is for sure. I hope him and his mother find the strength to persevere through this situation.

BELLEVILLE &#8211; Andy Lloyd got his first look Thursday at the air force colonel accused of killing his little sister.

He saw the face of Russell Williams, charged with killing Jessica Lloyd, 27, and Marie-France Comeau, 38, fill the screen of a courtroom television set in an appearance that lasted about a minute.

Williams appeared alert and looked straight into the camera during his brief appearance via video link.

&#8220;Obviously there&#8217;s a little bit of a shock, you know, things run through your head, obviously sadness,&#8221; Lloyd told reporters outside court after glimpsing Williams.
Lloyd, 29, said he would try to attend all remaining court dates for Williams, who is also charged with two home invasion sex assaults and over 82 break and enters in Ottawa, Belleville and the Tweed area.

&#8220;It&#8217;s just something I have to do for myself,&#8221; said Lloyd, dressed in a black suit and tie. He said he knows little about the evidence in the case, adding he gets most of his information from media coverage.

He said time has sped by since his sister&#8217;s body was discovered in February in an isolated, wooded area near Tweed, where Williams, 47, owned a cottage. Lloyd said he &#8220;knows it&#8217;s going to take a long time&#8221; before the case against Williams concludes.
Lloyd said his family is holding up as best they can. &#8220;We&#8217;re good. We have a lot of good friends and family in the area.&#8221;

There has been much speculation in the media that a plea arrangement is in the works but there has been no confirmation from Williams&#8217;s lawyer and there has been no indication of a plea in any of his court appearances to date.

Andy Lloyd is the brother of Jessica Lloyd, one of the alleged victims in the case of an air force colonel accused of murder.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/838849--russell-williams-makes-brief-court-appearance

 

[Wondergirl]

The colonel, who piloted dignitaries on Canadian air force flights before becoming commander of CFB Trenton, was brought in for questioning Feb. 7 following a police roadside check along a road leading to one of the crime scenes. Police, according to media reports, were looking for distinctive tire tracks left at one of the crime scenes. The day after his arrest, Williams reportedly led police to Lloyd&#8217;s body.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/838849--russell-williams-makes-brief-court-appearance

 

[Wondergirl]

Seeing this picture of Andy, Jessica's brother, is sad. He is a good, strong brother, that is for sure. I hope him and his mother find the strength to persevere through this situation.

BELLEVILLE &#8211; Andy Lloyd got his first look Thursday at the air force colonel accused of killing his little sister.

He saw the face of Russell Williams, charged with killing Jessica Lloyd, 27, and Marie-France Comeau, 38, fill the screen of a courtroom television set in an appearance that lasted about a minute.

Williams appeared alert and looked straight into the camera during his brief appearance via video link.

&#8220;Obviously there&#8217;s a little bit of a shock, you know, things run through your head, obviously sadness,&#8221; Lloyd told reporters outside court after glimpsing Williams.
Lloyd, 29, said he would try to attend all remaining court dates for Williams, who is also charged with two home invasion sex assaults and over 82 break and enters in Ottawa, Belleville and the Tweed area.

&#8220;It&#8217;s just something I have to do for myself,&#8221; said Lloyd, dressed in a black suit and tie. He said he knows little about the evidence in the case, adding he gets most of his information from media coverage.

He said time has sped by since his sister&#8217;s body was discovered in February in an isolated, wooded area near Tweed, where Williams, 47, owned a cottage. Lloyd said he &#8220;knows it&#8217;s going to take a long time&#8221; before the case against Williams concludes.
Lloyd said his family is holding up as best they can. &#8220;We&#8217;re good. We have a lot of good friends and family in the area.&#8221;

There has been much speculation in the media that a plea arrangement is in the works but there has been no confirmation from Williams&#8217;s lawyer and there has been no indication of a plea in any of his court appearances to date.

Andy Lloyd is the brother of Jessica Lloyd, one of the alleged victims in the case of an air force colonel accused of murder.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/a...urt-appearance

 

[Wondergirl]

Russell Williams Makes Brief Court Appearance

It must have been extremely difficult for Andy to attend this court appearance.



Colonel Russell Williams, the former airbase commander accused of murdering two women and sexually assaulting two others, appeared briefly in court by videolink Thursday and had his case put over for another month, until Aug. 26.

It was his fifth court appearance since his arrest and his fourth by video from Quinte Detention Centre in Napanee, where he is being held.

Clad as usual in his orange jumpsuit, Col. Williams looked lean and healthy.

Among the spectators in the small crowded courtroom was Andy Lloyd, 29, the older brother of murder victim Jessica Lloyd.

It was his first glimpse of Col. Williams since the charges were laid.

&#8220;It's something I have to do for myself, obviously it's a bit of a shock but I'm prepared for it,&#8221; he said afterward.

&#8220;We've got a lot of people helping us out.&#8221;

Arrested in Ottawa on Feb. 7 after a six-hour interrogation by provincial police....She was kidnapped and killed in late January and her body found in a patch of thick woodland outside Tweed, a few hours after Col. Williams was arrested.

A longtime executive with the Ottawa-based Heart and Stroke Foundation of Canada, Ms. Harriman has been in seclusion since her husband's arrest, but has visited him in the Quinte jail a number of times.

Shortly after he was charged with murder, Col. Williams transferred ownership of the Ottawa home to her, while he secured title to the less-valuable house in Tweed.

The lawsuit and any other civil actions will not be dealt with until the criminal case is resolved.

Military proceedings are also on hold.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1648356/

 

[Wondergirl]

Thread dedicated to Jessica here:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104447&page=2

 

[Wondergirl]

Murder victim’s brother among those in attendance


Dressed in an orange prison jumpsuit, and appearing via a video link from the Napanee, Ont., jail he now calls home, Williams responded with two words: “Thank you.”

Exactly what will happen on Aug. 26 remains unclear. Despite reports that the 47-year-old plans to plead guilty, neither the Crown nor the defence is commenting on the rumours.

Today’s court appearance comes one year and one week to the day after Williams assumed command of 8 Wing/CFB Trenton, the Canadian Forces’ busiest and most strategically important air base.

Police now allege that during the colonel’s six-month stint as boss, he led an elaborate and violent double life as a sexual predator.

In sworn affidavit signed on June 2—the day after her 19th wedding anniversary—Harriman claims that “as a result of the charges, my previously anticipated future and financial security had become jeopardized.

A hearing on the matter, originally scheduled for July 27, has been postponed until Oct. 19.

http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/07/22/...used-sex-killer-makes-brief-court-appearance/

 

[Wondergirl]

Video Interview with Andy here:

http://www.intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2680496

 

[Hazel]

Thread dedicated to Jessica here:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104447&page=2

That is actually page 2 of Thread #3 dedicated to Jessica.

Perhpaps you could fix your link to page 1, so people can find the links to the previous 2 Threads:

Link to Page 1, Thread No. 3, dedicated to Jessica Lloyd: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104447&post=5175744



(unless there was something specific on page 2 you were trying to point at )

 

[Summersolstice]

I don't know where to put this, so mods, feel free to delete/move.

Some time ago, I mentioned the Allore family of Trenton, Ontario. Strangely, the Allore name came up in Debra Rashotte's obituary. The Allore family once owned a building supply company in Trenton, which became a Beaver Lumber store, then a Home Hardware building supply centre. The Rashotte name is connected with a Home Hardware in Tweed, Jessica Lloyd's town.

Theresa Allore was murdered in Quebec. The case fell apart, partly due to an apparent lack of interest by LE in investigating Theresa's disappearance, and some presumptions (false) by LE about why Theresa disappeared. The trail went cold.

John Allore, her brother, has been blogging for some time, and now this:

http://theresaallore.com/2010/07/sign-off/#comments

It's never one person who suffers in cases like this. It's hard to say how many lives fall apart when a loved one is murdered. Loved ones left behind need answers.

 

[Sillybilly]

Wikileak in today's news

from: http://www.canada.com/news/Claim+friendly+fire+killings+soldiers+unravels/3329154/story.html

OTTAWA &#8212; A WikiLeaks document categorizing the deaths of four Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan on Sept. 3, 2006 as a "friendly fire" incident has been discounted by witnesses and the public record, supporting the Defence Department's finding Tuesday that the leaked military document is "obviously incorrect." ...

This would be around the same timeframe in 2006 that Maj. Michelle Knight-Mendes (deceased 2009) was in Kandahar.

Not sure which of the following articles is the correct/official version ... that she was "injured" or simply found "lying unconscious on a path" in the 2006 incident.

from: http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/624330

... Mendes's first tour in Afghanistan was also cut short. She was deployed as an intelligence officer in August 2006 ahead of Operation Medusa, a full-scale clash with the Taliban in Kandahar's Panjwaii district. Military officials said she was injured in an incident they would not disclose and was treated at Landstuhl military hospital in Germany before returning home ...

from: http://v1.theglobeandmail.com/servl...nic_1190591/BNStory/National/?pageRequested=3

... But days into the job, Afghan workers building a memorial to fallen Canadian soldiers discovered the petite blonde lying unconscious on a path. They began yelling for help.

&#8220;She was literally laying motionless and face down in the gravel,&#8221; said one soldier who was at the scene.

Medics rushed Capt. Mendes to the base hospital, and there she remained for several days before being airlifted for more testing in Landstuhl, Germany, then home ...

Gosh, sorry to sound cynical here, but ... Testing?? Landstuhl?? Home?? For what reasons? Sounds like a pretty serious condition that should have resulted in early retirement with a good pension, but she returned subsequent to 2006 and was ultimately found dead in her room in Kandahar in 2009.

 

[Summersolstice]

Wikileak in today's news

from: http://www.canada.com/news/Claim+friendly+fire+killings+soldiers+unravels/3329154/story.html



This would be around the same timeframe in 2006 that Maj. Michelle Knight-Mendes (deceased 2009) was in Kandahar.

Not sure which of the following articles is the correct/official version ... that she was "injured" or simply found "lying unconscious on a path" in the 2006 incident.

from: http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/624330



from: http://v1.theglobeandmail.com/servl...nic_1190591/BNStory/National/?pageRequested=3




Gosh, sorry to sound cynical here, but ... Testing?? Landstuhl?? Home?? For what reasons? Sounds like a pretty serious condition that should have resulted in early retirement with a good pension, but she returned subsequent to 2006 and was ultimately found dead in her room in Kandahar in 2009.

Yep, those wikileaks have been very interesting. Remember various stories that said she had developed a blood disorder that wasn't diagnosed, that she wasn't well and that the curtains were always drawn at her house when she returned from her first mission overseas? Of course, most of that came out after the pronouncement that her death was a "suicide". Then commenters on news sites started playing on the "baking cookies" angle, saying, in effect, that cookies are the new suicide note, and that the military shouldn't have sent someone who bakes cookies back to a conflict zone, because clearly that type of person needed help.

Here's one of the wikileaks stories in case readers haven't been following this:

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/WikiLeaks+report+cites+friendly+fire+incident/3325446/story.html

Julian Assange of wikileaks has apparently had his photo taken with a current newspaper to prove that he is still alive.

I found another thing strange. The Munk School of Global Affairs rang a bell. Then I rememberd that Robert Barrington Leigh's family asked for donations to be sent to the Trudeau Centre for Peace and Conflict Studies at the University of Toronto (which is part of the Munk School). And that is a whole other story.

Thinking about word in that report that the U.S. wanted Canada to rebuke South Africa. Wondering about another case on this board, and whether blood diamonds come into play.

And wondering about the Joe Grozelle connection. It's one big circle.

 

[Hazel]

Williams' wife 'innocent victim'
LAWSUIT: Lawyer says suit against Harriman unfounded

Posted 7 hours ago

A civil lawsuit against the wife of Col. Russ Williams is unfounded and should be dismissed, her lawyer says.

The lawsuit was filed May 6 against Williams and his wife, Mary-Elizabeth Harriman, by a 21-year-old Hastings County woman known only as Jane Doe.

"Although the defendant Harriman is not a criminal complainant against the defendant Williams, she is nevertheless a victim," Mary Jane Binks, Harriman's Ottawa lawyer, writes in a factum filed at Belleville's Ontario Superior Court office.

A copy of the more than 100-page file was obtained by The Intelligencer.

Williams, who was charged Feb. 8 in the criminal case, has not yet filed any documents in the civil matter.

He transferred his interest in the couple's home and other assets to Harriman March 22 in exchange for $244,500 in consideration, the factum says. Me: IIRC, didn't they originally say $60K? so now it is $244.5?

"There was no such intention," writes Binks, who was in a meeting Tuesday and could not be reached for comment.

The transfer was made to ensure Harriman's financial security, Binks adds. She also notes Harriman agreed to a court order preventing her from transferring or disposing of the home until further notice.

"The timing of the transfer was not unusual given the crisis facing the marriage of the defendants," writes Binks. The couple's 19th wedding anniversary was June 1, according to the factum.

"These claims by the plaintiff are neither supported by the facts nor the law," writes Binks. She asks the court to dismiss the claims against client and award Harriman court costs.

Binks states the plaintiff's lawyer, Kandace Davies of Belleville's Pretsell Cavanaugh firm, "provides absolutely no evidence" in the statement of claim that the transfer was fraudulent.

The claim, wrires Binks, "rests entirely on the allegation that the conveyance was made in haste following the criminal charges" against Williams.

Binks cites Harriman's character and job as associate executive director with the Heart and Stroke Foundation of Canada as reasons why "there is absolutely no risk whatsoever" her client will not try to "dispose of, deplete or remove her assets from the jurisdiction.

"Her reputation in the community is exemplary," writes Binks. "She has strong ties to Ottawa, she has not listed her home for sale and there is no suggestion that she will abscond from the jurisdiction."

Harriman "takes no position on the probability of success of the plaintiff's main action for sexual assault," the factum states.

RS&BBM

READ MORE: http://www.intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2687650

 

[Hazel]

Colonel Williams&#8217; wife, under attack
An accused killer&#8217;s spouse struggles to rebuild her shattered life
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:52am

On July 15, 2009, an hour before Col. Russell Williams was sworn in as the new boss of CFB Trenton, a two-seater jet skidded off the air base runway and smashed through a fence.

The plane, a 1950s-era Canadian Forces Silver Star, was being delivered to a private buyer in the U.S. when something went wrong during takeoff, forcing the pilot to abort.

For a few minutes, at least, the crash threatened to spoil Williams&#8217;s big day: his official change-of-command parade. But as emergency crews raced to the plane, they found a scene that could have been much worse. The pilot was conscious and alert, and the jet, resting on its belly, was still intact. So shortly after one o&#8217;clock, with the pilot safely in hospital, the festivities went ahead as planned.

If the accident was an omen for the unthinkable things to come, only Williams could have known that at the time. In the eyes of everyone else gathered at his swearing-in ceremony&#8212;including his wife of 18 years, Mary-Elizabeth Harriman&#8212; ......

Six pages long article ~~ read more: http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/07/27/the-colonels-wife/