GUILTY Canada - Marie-France Comeau, 37, & Jessica Lloyd, 27, slain, Ont, 2009 & 2010 - #3

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  • #521
Thanks to Wondergirl and Hazel for all the screen caps.

I found it interesting that the one victim was only 15 years old when obviously there was an adult female in the residence. Makes me question if RW has any boundaries whatsoever.

Sorry, i posted a thanks in another thread, but had a question re the above pics:

Can anyone read what it says in full on RW's t-shirt ... 6th annual, stroke (for/by/stroke/smoke???), pics of oarsmen, etc.
 
  • #522
Thanks to Wondergirl and Hazel for all the screen caps.

I found it interesting that the one victim was only 15 years old when obviously there was an adult female in the residence. Makes me question if RW has any boundaries whatsoever.

Sorry, i posted a thanks in another thread, but had a question re the above pics:

Can anyone read what it says in full on RW's t-shirt ... 6th annual, stroke (for/by/stroke/smoke???), pics of oarsmen, etc.

I think it says 6th annual stroke for stroke. (for the Heart and stroke foundation?)
 
  • #523
Thanks to Wondergirl and Hazel for all the screen caps.

I found it interesting that the one victim was only 15 years old when obviously there was an adult female in the residence. Makes me question if RW has any boundaries whatsoever.

Sorry, i posted a thanks in another thread, but had a question re the above pics:

Can anyone read what it says in full on RW's t-shirt ... 6th annual, stroke (for/by/stroke/smoke???), pics of oarsmen, etc.

Makes me think back to the fact that Nepean High School is within walking distance of the house in dispute in the civil case.
 
  • #524
About the stolen belongings from the 15-year-old: the girl's mother said DNA belonging to the perp was found in her room. I seem to recall that the perp in Tweed was careful not to leave DNA.
 
  • #525
Thanks to Wondergirl and Hazel for all the screen caps.

I found it interesting that the one victim was only 15 years old when obviously there was an adult female in the residence. Makes me question if RW has any boundaries whatsoever.

Sorry, i posted a thanks in another thread, but had a question re the above pics:

Can anyone read what it says in full on RW's t-shirt ... 6th annual, stroke (for/by/stroke/smoke???), pics of oarsmen, etc.
SB, it says: 6th annual Stroke for Stroke (and the logo is from the Heart & Stroke Foundation)
so far found these:
-- http://www.mykawartha.com/news/article/40812

-- http://internexcanada.wordpress.com/2010/06/15/toronto-dragon-boat-festival/

-- http://swiftoutdoors.blogspot.com/
 
  • #526
  • #527
Umm, Dragonboat Festival?????

Are you thinking Williams could be tied to Mariam's case???
I'm just posting links Wondergirl. That picture of RW in the tshirt seems to have been taken at the front of his home in Ottawa, and the Dragon Boat is in Toronto.

Found this other article which mentions the Hospital where RW's mother works:
About 50,000 strokes occur in Canada every year, leaving many disabled and in need of physical rehabilitation. The researchers at the HSFCSR are collaborating on finding new ways to rehabilitate stroke survivors. The Centre's research is expected to lead to major advances in stroke prevention, treatment and recovery, giving hope and a better quality of life to stroke patients and their families for all Ontarians. The Foundation created the partnership with three of the province's premier health care institutions: the Rotman Research Institute at Baycrest Geriatric Health Care System, Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre and the Ottawa Health Research Institute. Rocco's Paddle for Progress on Stroke metaphorically links the Centre's Toronto and Ottawa campuses. To learn more about Rocco's Paddle for Progress on Stroke,
RSBM
http://www.baycrest.org/News_and_Media/News_Releases_2006/default_10732.asp

http://www.mykawartha.com/news/article/40812
 
  • #528
Oh, okay Hazel, I thought it was said that there was a DND location quite close to Mariam's school, that's why I wondered. I thought that the Canadian Heart and Stroke Foundation might have been involved in the Dragon Boat Festival.
 
  • #529
Oh, okay Hazel, I thought it was said that there was a DND location quite close to Mariam's school, that's why I wondered. I thought that the Canadian Heart and Stroke Foundation might have been involved in the Dragon Boat Festival.

That was me quite some time ago who had been suggesting a possible link to Mariam's case. Would have to drum it up, but iirc, H&S Assoc was one of the sponsors of the Dragon Boat race which race started at Marilyn Bell Park and appears would have ended at The Boulevard Club, where (i think it was) JS and Nonie who had a membership, back in the day

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Will have to venture back through my mind ... i seem to recall some discussion a long time ago WRT a tent, pavillion or such for VIPs associated with the race.

The Canadian Forces College Toronto location is 215 Yonge Blvd, approx 3 miles (up Bathurst) from 20 Shallmar. RW's old school, UCC, is located at 200 Lonsdale, approx 1.3 miles from where Mariam went missing. I've often wondered if RW was in town that weekend, whether related to family matters, CFC business, or as a visiting dignitary (cough, splutter !!) at some location.
 
  • #530
That was me quite some time ago who had been suggesting a possible link to Mariam's case. Would have to drum it up, but iirc, H&S Assoc was one of the sponsors of the Dragon Boat race which race started at Marilyn Bell Park and appears would have ended at The Boulevard Club, where (i think it was) JS and Nonie who had a membership, back in the day

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CANADA Canada - Mariam Makhniashvili, 17, Toronto, 14 Sept 2009 - Thread #5

Will have to venture back through my mind ... i seem to recall some discussion a long time ago WRT a tent, pavillion or such for VIPs associated with the race.

The Canadian Forces College Toronto location is 215 Yonge Blvd, approx 3 miles (up Bathurst) from 20 Shallmar. RW's old school, UCC, is located at 200 Lonsdale, approx 1.3 miles from where Mariam went missing. I've often wondered if RW was in town that weekend, whether related to family matters, CFC business, or as a visiting dignitary (cough, splutter !!) at some location.

Sillybilly, I guess you missed my post #469 :)

Wondergirl was referring to one of the links I posted there. I see that dotr also noticed it :) This is the link:
DragonBoat = http://internexcanada.wordpress.com/2010/06/15/toronto-dragon-boat-festival/

What I meant is that I was just posting links I found that have some relevance to Rowing / Stroke / Heart and Stroke Foundation - - I don't know if any of those links have actually any relevance to the t-shirt RW is wearing in those pictures.

Dotr, Nope, I'm not saying RW is tied to Mariam's case. That is not one the threories I have in mind for Mariam's disappearance. Just posting links, that's all.
 
  • #531
I just watched the Fifth Estate episode online. I think they did a good job with the show. There were several people interviewed that made it "real" for me....touching me:

- The close friend of Russ Williams and his reaction to hearing the news....a very visceral reaction to this day.

- The ex-boyfriend of Marie-France, and the wonderful memories he shared with us. Marie-France's killing never received much broad media attention at the time and it was nice to find out more about her as a person. (Particularly in the 'extra' video.)

- One of the break-in victims, who never saw Russ Williams, but is still devastated about what happened to Jessica Lloyd, no doubt knowing it could as easily have been herself killed, and perhaps feeling guilty about not being able to warn ALL women in the area that they should be cautious. Her vulnerability toward the end of the show, was heartbreaking.

A well done show.
 
  • #532
That was me quite some time ago who had been suggesting a possible link to Mariam's case. Would have to drum it up, but iirc, H&S Assoc was one of the sponsors of the Dragon Boat race which race started at Marilyn Bell Park and appears would have ended at The Boulevard Club, where (i think it was) JS and Nonie who had a membership, back in the day

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CANADA Canada - Mariam Makhniashvili, 17, Toronto, 14 Sept 2009 - Thread #5

Will have to venture back through my mind ... i seem to recall some discussion a long time ago WRT a tent, pavillion or such for VIPs associated with the race.

The Canadian Forces College Toronto location is 215 Yonge Blvd, approx 3 miles (up Bathurst) from 20 Shallmar. RW's old school, UCC, is located at 200 Lonsdale, approx 1.3 miles from where Mariam went missing. I've often wondered if RW was in town that weekend, whether related to family matters, CFC business, or as a visiting dignitary (cough, splutter !!) at some location.

Thanks, SillyBilly, that is the discussion I was thinking of, and Hazel trying find the affiliation associated with RW's shirt above, brought back that discussion for me.

I haven't ruled out the thought that RW could have been involved with Mariam's disappearance, especially since RW would have been a man in uniform, an authority figure, that could very well have been in the area of her school that fateful day. Anything is possible, especially with RW. MOO
 
  • #533
I see that we are once again looking at possible links between RW and the disappearance of Mariam. As have most of you, I have been following both of these cases very closely, reading every post here and every media article several times plus many of those on MM’s Facebook page, watching all relevant TV programs, and meeting MM’s family in person. Knowing everything that has been made public about both cases, I long ago ruled out even the slightest possibility that RW could have been responsible for what happened to Mariam. These are my reasons:

(1) LE thoroughly investigated and questioned people associated with, and present at, the dragon boat races. Not one witness has been found who saw Mariam talking to anyone, especially strange men. Especially a man whose image has been at the forefront of media news since February.

(2) Since Mariam’s return home from the races involved first a subway ride with her brother to Union Station and then a drive home by her father, it would have been next to impossible for her to have been followed home. Therefore, for her abductor to know where she lived or went to school, she would have had to tell him one or the other. To do so would have been totally out of character for a girl as shy and uncommunicative as Mariam. To gain her trust would have taken at least several minutes of conversation. How could this have not attracted at least one witness?

(3) RW was an extremely busy man with a full schedule. Even if we ignore points #1 and #2, he would have needed to be in Toronto that Monday, Sept. 14th, had the time to wait and hope that MM showed up in front of her school that morning (alone and unobserved), and hours more to kill and dispose of her far enough away that LE still hasn’t found her more than a year later.

(4) RW had a definite MO. He stalked his victims, either knew them personally (MFC), or struck close to home (Orleans, Ottawa proper, and Tweed). He used his hobbies of jogging and photography to facilitate his crimes. He always struck under cover of darkness and in the homes of his victims. To approach one in broad daylight (as was Mariam) was too high a risk for someone of RW’s intelligence and professional stature and a complete departure from his usual MO.

(5) LE has been investigating and trying to link RW to every case of missing and murdered females within his boundaries for more than seven months now. I’m betting that every minute of his whereabouts for years has been thoroughly looked at, including September 14, 2009. It would be unbelievable that they hadn’t tried to find a connection to Mariam. Yet, less than two weeks ago they stated that they are no further ahead with her case than they were a year ago.

Bearing in mind all the points above, I truly believe that any possibility of a connection between RW and MM is purely speculative, tenuous, and coincidental. Logically thinking, it’s trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

JMO
 
  • #534
I see that we are once again looking at possible links between RW and the disappearance of Mariam. As have most of you, I have been following both of these cases very closely, reading every post here and every media article several times plus many of those on MM’s Facebook page, watching all relevant TV programs, and meeting MM’s family in person. Knowing everything that has been made public about both cases, I long ago ruled out even the slightest possibility that RW could have been responsible for what happened to Mariam. These are my reasons:

(1) LE thoroughly investigated and questioned people associated with, and present at, the dragon boat races. Not one witness has been found who saw Mariam talking to anyone, especially strange men. Especially a man whose image has been at the forefront of media news since February.

(2) Since Mariam’s return home from the races involved first a subway ride with her brother to Union Station and then a drive home by her father, it would have been next to impossible for her to have been followed home. Therefore, for her abductor to know where she lived or went to school, she would have had to tell him one or the other. To do so would have been totally out of character for a girl as shy and uncommunicative as Mariam. To gain her trust would have taken at least several minutes of conversation. How could this have not attracted at least one witness?

(3) RW was an extremely busy man with a full schedule. Even if we ignore points #1 and #2, he would have needed to be in Toronto that Monday, Sept. 14th, had the time to wait and hope that MM showed up in front of her school that morning (alone and unobserved), and hours more to kill and dispose of her far enough away that LE still hasn’t found her more than a year later.

(4) RW had a definite MO. He stalked his victims, either knew them personally (MFC), or struck close to home (Orleans, Ottawa proper, and Tweed). He used his hobbies of jogging and photography to facilitate his crimes. He always struck under cover of darkness and in the homes of his victims. To approach one in broad daylight (as was Mariam) was too high a risk for someone of RW’s intelligence and professional stature and a complete departure from his usual MO.

(5) LE has been investigating and trying to link RW to every case of missing and murdered females within his boundaries for more than seven months now. I’m betting that every minute of his whereabouts for years has been thoroughly looked at, including September 14, 2009. It would be unbelievable that they hadn’t tried to find a connection to Mariam. Yet, less than two weeks ago they stated that they are no further ahead with her case than they were a year ago.

Bearing in mind all the points above, I truly believe that any possibility of a connection between RW and MM is purely speculative, tenuous, and coincidental. Logically thinking, it’s trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

JMO

Let me toss a monkey wrench in the works, then.

1. Someone involved in the organizational end of things might not necessarily have attended the event. For example, does everyone at the Heart and Stroke Foundation HQ attend every fundraiser, even fundraisers that are out of town?

2. Registration information for marathons and triathlons is often found online. With this particular event the registration surely must have been managed on a computer somewhere, if not online. Chances are that officials in the HQ for Heart and Stroke, for example, would have had access to that information, and may even have taken a laptop home. Registration information would include things like age and addresses. Someone with a background in electronic warfare and who allegedly hacked computers in victims' homes would surely find hacking a spouse's computer an easy job.

I recall that RW's house in Westboro was within walking distance of Nepean High School. Who's to say that there weren't practice runs done there?

3. Busy, but still found time -- allegedly -- to do a whole number of things that were not work-related. Bodies can be disposed of in many ways that don't involve a lot of planning and effort, like rivers, for example. Has anyone given thought to that property at the UCC summer camp, for example? Remember RW callilng in sick from work coincidentally after one incident? No doubt busy people can beg off to a meeting or whatever.

4. Do we really know MO? Isn't it possible that there are victims out there who remain unknown to LE? As I recall from the Fifth Estate documentary, one victim went home from work and later realized someone was in her house as she got ready to go out for the evening. Not the middle of the night by any means. When perps start increasing the rate of their crimes, does careful planning sometimes slip away? As we know, things do not always go smoothly, and Larry Jones' daughter caught a glimpse of someone in her house.

5. Time will tell. LE is known for holding their cards close to their chest.

When it comes to reasonable doubt, I'd say this possibility should not be discarded yet.
 
  • #535
Let me toss a monkey wrench in the works, then.

1. Someone involved in the organizational end of things might not necessarily have attended the event. For example, does everyone at the Heart and Stroke Foundation HQ attend every fundraiser, even fundraisers that are out of town?

Probably not, which is one of my points. I kind of doubt that someone in MEH's position would make the trek from Ottawa to Toronto for one of the many events the HSF was involved in.
2. Registration information for marathons and triathlons is often found online. With this particular event the registration surely must have been managed on a computer somewhere, if not online. Chances are that officials in the HQ for Heart and Stroke, for example, would have had access to that information, and may even have taken a laptop home. Registration information would include things like age and addresses. Someone with a background in electronic warfare and who allegedly hacked computers in victims' homes would surely find hacking a spouse's computer an easy job.

The registration was handled by the YMCA, who would likely have the pertinent info you mention. I see no reason why the HSF would also have these details or why RW would feel the need to look for victims on his wife's computer.

But even if we assume that this highly-unlikely (IMO) event occurred, how would RW choose from among the participants? (Never mind WHY.) How would he connect the name on a list to the girl at the races or in front of her school? Do you also believe that there were photos with these names? That the ONE day Mariam separated from her brother was the one where RW was waiting for her? It's all an incredible stretch, IMO.

I recall that RW's house in Westboro was within walking distance of Nepean High School. Who's to say that there weren't practice runs done there?

Sorry, I have no idea to what this is referring. What practice runs? Is there a teenage girl missing from Nepean HS? To link one high school in Ottawa to another in Toronto makes no sense. The physical layouts of the schools, the surrounding area, the traffic, etc. would be completely different in the two locations. Besides, see my Point #2; how would RW know what school MM attended (given all the arguments in my previous post)?

3. Busy, but still found time -- allegedly -- to do a whole number of things that were not work-related. Bodies can be disposed of in many ways that don't involve a lot of planning and effort, like rivers, for example. Has anyone given thought to that property at the UCC summer camp, for example? Remember RW callilng in sick from work coincidentally after one incident? No doubt busy people can beg off to a meeting or whatever.

True, but most of them involved jogging at night and spending week-ends with his wife. We're not talking about an unemployed loner here. A man in his position would find it difficult to unaccountably disappear for hours on a week-day morning. Again, I am convinced that LE has already checked RW's whereabouts on the day of Mariam's disappearance. Meetings are verifiable, as are most alibis. Unplanned dumps in rivers almost always result in bodies being discovered - certainly within one year.

Additionally, MM's disappearance without a single witness or clue to her whereabouts smacks of a perfect (or extremely lucky) crime. It's very hard to believe that it was not meticulously planned and executed. Yet, two months later, MFC was murdered and her body left in her own home. Two months after that, Jessica is abducted - again from her own home. Her remains were dumped in an open area not far from her home. Tire tracks were carelessly left in a field near her home, leading to RW's arrest a mere ten days later. DNA was left at at least one of the break-in scenes. Most intelligent criminals do not digress from committing a "perfect crime" to several careless, stupid ones. They learn as they go along. RW was arrogant, but he had a lot at stake.

4. Do we really know MO? Isn't it possible that there are victims out there who remain unknown to LE? As I recall from the Fifth Estate documentary, one victim went home from work and later realized someone was in her house as she got ready to go out for the evening. Not the middle of the night by any means. When perps start increasing the rate of their crimes, does careful planning sometimes slip away? As we know, things do not always go smoothly, and Larry Jones' daughter caught a glimpse of someone in her house.

True. MOs can vary and RW could have veered from his, but to this extent? The examples you mention still involved home break-ins on quiet, rural Cosy Cove. Mariam was snatched at 8:30 a.m. from school property (or very close by) in a highly-traveled, densely-populated neighbourhood. I find it very unlikely that he would be desperate enough to take this risk.

5. Time will tell. LE is known for holding their cards close to their chest.

True again, but they have been unusually open about sharing the details of RW's charged crimes. I have never seen so many facts emerge from a crime that hasn't even been tried yet. If LE had even the slightest suspicion of his involvement in MM's case, why go on record saying that they are no further ahead than a year ago? Wouldn't it be better public relations to say they're working on leads (even if not naming RW)? I do believe that RW is probably guilty of more crimes than he has been charged with - just not Mariam's.

When it comes to reasonable doubt, I'd say this possibility should not be discarded yet.

You're certainly entitled to your doubts and suspicions, but for the reasons I have stated, I respectfully beg to differ.

JMO
 
  • #536
I recall that RW's house in Westboro was within walking distance of Nepean High School. Who's to say that there weren't practice runs done there?

Sorry, I have no idea to what this is referring. What practice runs? Is there a teenage girl missing from Nepean HS? To link one high school in Ottawa to another in Toronto makes no sense. The physical layouts of the schools, the surrounding area, the traffic, etc. would be completely different in the two locations. Besides, see my Point #2; how would RW know what school MM attended (given all the arguments in my previous post)?

You're certainly entitled to your doubts and suspicions, but for the reasons I have stated, I respectfully beg to differ.

JMO
Summer, it's not the first time you refer to that Nepean High School, and like Antiquegirl, I don't know what you mean by that.

Just as a reminder, RW moved to the new home in Westboro around December 17th, 2009, so I don't know how much jogging he could have done around that area at that time of year. There are also 2 other schools (elementary/middle school) around that area as well.

MAP: MAP
 
  • #537
Probably not, which is one of my points. I kind of doubt that someone in MEH's position would make the trek from Ottawa to Toronto for one of the many events the HSF was involved in.


The registration was handled by the YMCA, who would likely have the pertinent info you mention. I see no reason why the HSF would also have these details or why RW would feel the need to look for victims on his wife's computer.

But even if we assume that this highly-unlikely (IMO) event occurred, how would RW choose from among the participants? (Never mind WHY.) How would he connect the name on a list to the girl at the races or in front of her school? Do you also believe that there were photos with these names? That the ONE day Mariam separated from her brother was the one where RW was waiting for her? It's all an incredible stretch, IMO.



Sorry, I have no idea to what this is referring. What practice runs? Is there a teenage girl missing from Nepean HS? To link one high school in Ottawa to another in Toronto makes no sense. The physical layouts of the schools, the surrounding area, the traffic, etc. would be completely different in the two locations. Besides, see my Point #2; how would RW know what school MM attended (given all the arguments in my previous post)?



True, but most of them involved jogging at night and spending week-ends with his wife. We're not talking about an unemployed loner here. A man in his position would find it difficult to unaccountably disappear for hours on a week-day morning. Again, I am convinced that LE has already checked RW's whereabouts on the day of Mariam's disappearance. Meetings are verifiable, as are most alibis. Unplanned dumps in rivers almost always result in bodies being discovered - certainly within one year.

Additionally, MM's disappearance without a single witness or clue to her whereabouts smacks of a perfect (or extremely lucky) crime. It's very hard to believe that it was not meticulously planned and executed. Yet, two months later, MFC was murdered and her body left in her own home. Two months after that, Jessica is abducted - again from her own home. Her remains were dumped in an open area not far from her home. Tire tracks were carelessly left in a field near her home, leading to RW's arrest a mere ten days later. DNA was left at at least one of the break-in scenes. Most intelligent criminals do not digress from committing a "perfect crime" to several careless, stupid ones. They learn as they go along. RW was arrogant, but he had a lot at stake.



True. MOs can vary and RW could have veered from his, but to this extent? The examples you mention still involved home break-ins on quiet, rural Cosy Cove. Mariam was snatched at 8:30 a.m. from school property (or very close by) in a highly-traveled, densely-populated neighbourhood. I find it very unlikely that he would be desperate enough to take this risk.



True again, but they have been unusually open about sharing the details of RW's charged crimes. I have never seen so many facts emerge from a crime that hasn't even been tried yet. If LE had even the slightest suspicion of his involvement in MM's case, why go on record saying that they are no further ahead than a year ago? Wouldn't it be better public relations to say they're working on leads (even if not naming RW)? I do believe that RW is probably guilty of more crimes than he has been charged with - just not Mariam's.



You're certainly entitled to your doubts and suspicions, but for the reasons I have stated, I respectfully beg to differ.

JMO

The YMCA is an interesting point.
 
  • #538
I see that we are once again looking at possible links between RW and the disappearance of Mariam.
<rsbm>

WRT the possibility of RW having somehow been affiliated with the dragon boat races the weekend of Sept 12 and 13, we previously discussed that it was unlikely that he somehow managed to follow her home, etc. I agree with that assessment/conclusion but still don't rule it out.

What I have been trying to establish through that discussion is whether there was something that brought RW to Toronto in that 3 day period of Sept 12 to Sept 14 (whether dragon boat races, visit with friends or family, etc.) One thing that has always disturbed me is the discrepancy of the timeframe presented by the military newsletter compared to the timeframe presented by Mayor Williams WRT the flight to Alert.

antiquegirl said:
How could this have not attracted at least one witness?

"If a man talks in the forest and his wife is not there to hear him, is he still wrong?" LOL ... Whatever it was that resulted in Mariam's disappearance, there was not "one witness" to whatever transpired. Obviously something happened that nobody saw ... we just don't know what that something was, thus our reason d'etre here at WS.

antiquegirl said:
(3) RW was an extremely busy man with a full schedule. Even if we ignore points #1 and #2, he would have needed to be in Toronto that Monday, Sept. 14th, had the time to wait and hope that MM showed up in front of her school that morning (alone and unobserved), and hours more to kill and dispose of her far enough away that LE still hasn’t found her more than a year later.

RW was a superlative multitasker with the ability to fit many important things into tight timeframes. He was an early riser. He was also known for blitzing his victims. Within hours of Marie France's body being found, he was cavorting at Trenton in the jailhouse fundraiser. Short timeframes didn't seem to prevent him from carrying out his crimes in between his official duties. As for LE not finding Mariam in a year, bodies turn up in the strangest places many years afterwards. Mariam won't be found until she's found, wherever that may be. I'm sure LE hasn't been able to check all the way from Toronto to Trenton.

antiquegirl said:
(4) RW had a definite MO. He stalked his victims, either knew them personally (MFC), or struck close to home (Orleans, Ottawa proper, and Tweed). He used his hobbies of jogging and photography to facilitate his crimes. He always struck under cover of darkness and in the homes of his victims. To approach one in broad daylight (as was Mariam) was too high a risk for someone of RW’s intelligence and professional stature and a complete departure from his usual MO.

MOs change but signatures don't. MOs are known to evolve as we see with RW going from B&Es to murder. He was becoming much more brazen and may have tried a daytime blitz, but found it outside his comfort level, and reverted to carrying out his crimes under the cover of darkness.

antiquegirl said:
(5) LE has been investigating and trying to link RW to every case of missing and murdered females within his boundaries for more than seven months now. I’m betting that every minute of his whereabouts for years has been thoroughly looked at, including September 14, 2009. It would be unbelievable that they hadn’t tried to find a connection to Mariam. Yet, less than two weeks ago they stated that they are no further ahead with her case than they were a year ago.

LE frequently speak with FORK-ED tongue :) I also recall they said at one point they were concentrating on the cases he had been charged with, but it is apparent that they continue to investigate well beyond those cases. There are at least two other examples that we know of where LE is looking for possible connections to RW (Margaret McWilliams and Kathleen McVicar), and they have neither ruled him in or out at this point, and I suggest the same holds true in Mariam's case. None of us knows specifically where LE stands in these cases, so until LE publicly states that they have ruled him out in Mariam's case, I don't think we can discount the possibilities.

antiquegirl said:
Bearing in mind all the points above, I truly believe that any possibility of a connection between RW and MM is purely speculative, tenuous, and coincidental. Logically thinking, it’s trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
<bbm>

Kinda like where LE's heads were at when they failed to consider Larry Jones' next door neighbour as a possible perp because he was such a reputable man with such a distinguished career.

JMO :)
 
  • #539
I haven't been very active lately in these forums and just noticed that we no longer have the option to edit our posts. When did this happen and why?

EDIT: In my Post #477 where I wrote, "I long ago ruled out even the slightest possibility that MW could have been responsible for what happened to Mariam.", I obviously meant "RW", not "MW". :sheesh:

ETA: It's all fixed now AntiqueGirl :) - Salem
 
  • #540
I haven't been very active lately in these forums and just noticed that we no longer have the option to edit our posts. When did this happen and why?

EDIT: In my Post #477 where I wrote, "I long ago ruled out even the slightest possibility that MW could have been responsible for what happened to Mariam.", I obviously meant "RW", not "MW". :sheesh:

That's happened to me quite a bit lately too AG ... may have something to do with them being in the process of changing their server. Seems the "Edit" button is there shortly after a post, but if I wait a few minutes, it disappears. Wow, i can't live without my edit button. (WAIT, MAYBE IT'S MY FAULT !!) :woohoo:
 
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