GUILTY Canada - Marie-France Comeau, 37, & Jessica Lloyd, 27, slain, Ont, 2009 & 2010 - #6

[antiquegirl]

I think RW confessed after four hours, then the rest of the time was spent discussing the hows and whys.

That doesn't matter. My point is that it was a 10 hour interrogation. There were probably washroom and meal breaks, but still ... that's a very long time and sure to be exhausting ... physically, mentally, and emotionally.

JMO

 

[dotr]

From your link Dotr:


Are you thinking what I am thinking?


That looks like an unusual ring, you'd think it would catch someone's attention who may have known her.

Today's Star additional info.of body found near Bowmanville
Who was she and what brought her here?

Since a woman’s skeletal remains and wristwatch were found in a marshy field near the gate to the Darlington nuclear facility in 2006, she has remained a complete mystery.

But a recent forensic return to the site has unearthed “key” evidence that may solve the case, give the woman a name and allow her to finally rest in peace.

Durham police hope a “unique” ring, two missing teeth and a man’s hooded shirt drawn from the now drier ground — the water table has dropped in recent years —will identify the young woman whose body was likely dumped near a handy Highway 401 exit.
read more..http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/article/891964--police-hope-new-discovery-helps-solve-cold-case

 

[mister happy]

That doesn't matter. My point is that it was a 10 hour interrogation. There were probably washroom and meal breaks, but still ... that's a very long time and sure to be exhausting ... physically, mentally, and emotionally.

JMO

IMO, after the pressure of getting the basic confession, the remaining time was "gravy" with RW opening up and "singing" his deeds. But yes, 10 hours is a lot time. I'm sure Det. Smyth has built up endurance over the years. That's part of his game. Wonder what his longest interrogation was.

 

[Salem]

Today's Star additional info.of body found near Bowmanville
Who was she and what brought her here?

Since a woman’s skeletal remains and wristwatch were found in a marshy field near the gate to the Darlington nuclear facility in 2006, she has remained a complete mystery.

But a recent forensic return to the site has unearthed “key” evidence that may solve the case, give the woman a name and allow her to finally rest in peace.

Durham police hope a “unique” ring, two missing teeth and a man’s hooded shirt drawn from the now drier ground — the water table has dropped in recent years —will identify the young woman whose body was likely dumped near a handy Highway 401 exit.
read more..http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/article/891964--police-hope-new-discovery-helps-solve-cold-case

Has anyone checked to see if this woman has a thread in the Unidentified forum? If not, we should probably start one for her.

TIA,

Salem

 

[Hazel]

Has anyone checked to see if this woman has a thread in the Unidentified forum? If not, we should probably start one for her.

TIA,

Salem

Good idea Salem! I just checked and she does now CarlK90245 created a thread for her yesterday.

here is the link:

CANADA ONT - Durham - WhtFem - Skeletal Remains Near Darlington nuclear station - Oct'06

 

[Wondergirl]

I thought Smyth was good. Overall he was deft and tactful. I don't know about brilliant...I'd call being brilliant being able to wrest a confession out of a smart guy when you don't have as much evidence against them as the cops already had or were going to be able to get against Williams anyway.

I really liked how Smyth spoke to Williams (he called him Russ, not Colonel) in an appropriately serious, yet soft and understated tone of voice. I especially liked how he said Williams had the options of telling the truth and avoiding the cold blooded sociopath route for the sake of the victims. And that he didn't perceive him as another Bernardo who actually liked the sociopath label.

I could understand how Smyth mirrored Williams gestures eg. holding up his hand to his face in much the same way Williams did, or crossing his legs the way Williams did. It was irritating when Williams mentioned how his main concern was for his wife and her new house getting torn up and Smyth was almost forced to immediately agree with him and say "me too", even though we know Smyth probably could care less about MEH's new house getting ripped apart to find evidence. But Smyth had to go along with Williams pretending to actually care what was going to happen to his wife (in order to show he wasn't a complete sociopath).

I doubt that Williams was fooled by Smyth's tactics at all, because Williams had already received lots of training himself in interrogation techniques. Smyth could have been almost inept, but Williams knew he would have to give it up in the face of the overwhelming evidence the police had amassed by then. Smyth however, was smooth enough and efficient enough that he probably got a confession earlier than most. I think Williams under nearly any other skilled interrogator like Smyth would still have wanted to avoid the messiness of a trial. I don't think it was Smyth's skills alone that accomplished that goal.

Hopefully Smyth will be interviewed soon. I read that he has to wait a month after the conviction before he can talk to the media.

BBM: I do.

I think Smyth is brilliant and masterful.

I know that he is extremely humble, as he was when he determined the location of, and recovered Victoria Staffords remains (someone posted the interview with him here somewhere). I look forward to the interviews that will hopefully happen with him. Though I don't expect to read or see alot of superiority etc. (it was all in a days work for him). He is probably busy doing his job, working to find the killer of Orangeville's Sonia Varaschin.

LE spared no expense on bringing in the experts, professionals and teams of Detectives and specialists, as the case grew.

Thank-you LE for bringing them in.

Thank-you LE for involving Det.Sgt. Smyth.

He IS brilliant in my eyes. :woohoo:

 

[Francine]

Yes I greatly admire Smyth for being excellent at his job, especially in regard to the Tori Stafford case. He has a down to earth approach that suspects learn to trust. However, I would have considered his interrogation of Williams brilliant if, for example, he had achieved more confessions from Williams other than confessions based on what the police were going to find anyway after searching his houses and office on base. I truly suspect that Williams has done more crimes e.g. the Carleton rape.

In addition, when he asked Williams why he did these crimes, Williams responded that he had thought about it and didn't know, and besides the answers wouldn't have mattered anyway--I thought Smyth should have pursued this more. Williams was avoiding the answer for some reason.

There were a lot of other questions Smyth could have followed up on a bit more. Of course the interview I saw was the only one released to the public so far. So maybe in other interviews more of the information I wanted to know may have been extracted from Williams by Smyth.

So based on this snapshot of Smyth's interrogation techniques I would say he is excellent at this job, but during this particular interview he did not appear to be brilliant. Maybe at other times he is, but I haven't seen it.

 

[Pink Panther]

From your link Dotr:


Are you thinking what I am thinking?


That looks like an unusual ring, you'd think it would catch someone's attention who may have known her.

Noticed this one a while back. Very close to where RW's brother lives and smack on with a Nuclear Power plant. If you research a bit more, the intersecting street names will raise the hairs on your back.

JMO

 

[Valleyboy]

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/893392--military-burns-russell-williams-s-uniform?bn=1


The Canadian Forces have searched convicted serial killer Russell Williams’ Tweed cottage to retrieve his military kit — and burn his military clothing.

Four military officials, including two police, entered the Tweed cottage on Tuesday with the former air force colonel’s permission. They emerged after 90 minutes with enough military equipment, including books and manuals, to almost fill a van.

“All his military clothes — boots, headdress, shirts and everything — as soon it was taken it was also disposed of, it was actually burned the same day,” Cmdr. Hubert Genest, a Canadian Forces spokesperson, said in an interview.

Genest added that while the retrieving of military equipment is standard procedure for anyone who leaves the army, the burning of uniforms is not. Normally, the military tries to recycle and reuse clothing.

 

[maxfactor]

Four military officials, including two police, entered the Tweed cottage on Tuesday with the former air force colonel’s permission. They emerged after 90 minutes with enough military equipment, including books and manuals, to almost fill a van.

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/893392--military-burns-russell-williams-s-uniform?bn=1

 

[antiquegirl]

From today's Toronto Star's front page:

Military burns Russell Williams’s uniform

The Canadian Forces have searched convicted serial killer Russell Williams’ Tweed cottage to retrieve his military kit — and burn his military clothing.

Four military officials, including two police, entered the Tweed cottage on Tuesday with the former air force colonel’s permission. They emerged after 90 minutes with enough military equipment, including books and manuals, to almost fill a van.

“All his military clothes — boots, headdress, shirts and everything — as soon it was taken it was also disposed of, it was actually burned the same day,” Cmdr. Hubert Genest, a Canadian Forces spokesperson, said in an interview.

More here:

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/893392--military-burns-russell-williams-s-uniform

 

[nobodyzgirl]

From today's Toronto Star's front page:



More here:

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/893392--military-burns-russell-williams-s-uniform

Thanks AG, I heard about this on the news this morning.

 

[dotr]

Just in case.
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...00-to-help-solve-nova-scotia-woman-s-homicide

 

[SomeGirlOnTheNet]

They asked for his "permission" to enter his house to get the military kit?

GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[mister happy]

From today's Toronto Star's front page:



More here:

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/893392--military-burns-russell-williams-s-uniform

That's that, eh. (As the Canadians would say.)

 

[mister happy]

They asked for his "permission" to enter his house to get the military kit?

GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, that did sound wonky!

 

[Hazel]

a few extra details in this article:

Military burns killer colonel's uniform

They made a careful inventory and locked the goods in a secure place on the base for the night.

Those same staffers were present when the inventory was burned privately Thursday, said Genest.

“There was no ceremony but it was formal. We're not going to celebrate, but we're going to do it right. Everything's accounted for,” he said.

Genest said only a few small items were missing and the military has removed a “small amount” of money from Williams' account as reimbursement. That's in accordance with military procedure, he said.

Officials have also arranged to retrieve Williams' medals and his commission scroll. The medals will be destroyed but details on the scroll's fate weren't immediately available.

Genest said only a few more steps must be taken before Williams is officially out of the service, including a short medical exam.

“We are arranging with the prison facility to make that happen over the next few days,” said Genest. “We just need a general status of your health to close your medical file.”

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2010/11/19/16222061.html

 

[nobodyzgirl]

They asked for his "permission" to enter his house to get the military kit?

GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By law they would have to ask permission to enter the premises. It would still be considered (legally) belonging to RW (while his name is on title) and it is considered a private residential dwelling. If they entered without permission, they could be facing charges of breaking and entering, and possibly even be charged with with theft for anything they removed from the dwelling. It's not like they can ask RW to return any items that were in his home.

 

[antiquegirl]

By law they would have to ask permission to enter the premises. It would still be considered (legally) belonging to RW (while his name is on title) and it is considered a private residential dwelling. If they entered without permission, they could be facing charges of breaking and entering, and possibly even be charged with with theft for anything they removed from the dwelling. It's not like they can ask RW to return any items that were in his home.

I wonder what they would have done had RW refused to give his permission. Could they get a court order or something?

 

[Hazel]

WM, was trying to answer your request, but for some reason it is impossible to post images in Allison's thread (link), so am posting them here.

Here is the composite sketch.....

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3074343/

And here is Col Williams.......

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/893392--military-burns-russell-williams-s-uniform

Sorry, I don't know how to do side by side. The similarities are creepy, IMO.

wm

RW wore glasses when he was young

composite pdf file (zoom composite image in/out) :http://www.wral.com/news/local/flash/3074458/


NOTE: I added one extra composite in there ... that's one I had suggested a long, long time ago (link)