GUILTY Canada - Marie-France Comeau, 37, & Jessica Lloyd, 27, slain, Ont, 2009 & 2010 - #6

[Sillybilly]

IMO, it appears Ms Mallick does not understand that under the Constitution, Canadians are entitled to a reasonable expectation of privacy and are guaranteed not to be subjected to unreasonable search & seizure.

The officer's suspicion did not equal a crime in progress, there was no "hot pursuit" to justify any subsequent action by the officer, or to substantiate an unwarranted search of the property. There was nothing to even justify a search warrant on reasonable and probable grounds. If RW's plate number had been obtained illegally from a vehicle on private property, it would run the risk of invalidating on appeal ALL evidence used to convict. There's a legal term (can't remember, might be "probative value") that, had there been evidence leading to RW PRIOR to that "illegal" search, a court would probably rule that the value of the evidence outweighed the illegal search, but any case starting with an llegal search procedure is doomed to failure.

 

[flipflop]

Mallick: Institutional cowardice hides failure in Jessica Lloyd case

I lie awake at night and think of Lloyd's duct-taped corpse lying in the cold silent white woods where Williams dumped it, and I think of the debt of honesty we owe to that good brave woman whose foremost thought was of her family's distress.

I know that if I had failed her, I'd admit it and let that lesson teach police province-wide what to do when the next killer smugly parks his car and begins his hideous task.

But I'm not a police officer or chief or minister of public safety or provincial premier, all curled up in the fetal position when determined reporters phone and email, again and again. The Star has even couriered a letter to one particular officer personally. She remains silent.

http://www.thestar.com/news/article...dice-hides-failure-in-jessica-lloyd-case?bn=1



It's a pretty harsh article, but, I recommend reading it.

I agree, this article is very harsh!!! I am surprised that the officer even stopped at the house to question the vehicle. How many times have you noticed vehicles parked in a field...I live in farm country and it is pretty common to see cars/trucks parked in fields....farmers driving to the field, hunters out hunting, fishermen walking back to a creek or river etc, etc. If I saw a vehicle parked in a field, I would think nothing suspicious about it. JL's neighbours thought nothing suspicious about it, as they would have called it in. Kudos to the officer for trying to check it out, without the property owner home to ask, she had no right to snoop around her property and to check it out further.

 

[dotr]

OTTAWA -- A member of the Canadian Forces Ceremonial Guard was convicted of sexually assaulting a subordinate Monday
SNIP
"He did not come across as a sexual deviant," Judge Heather Perkins-McVey said. "He came across as a young man who was inebriated, attracted to a young woman, acted on those urges and was wilfully blind as to whether she was consenting."
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/2010/12/13/16538686.html

 

[Wondergirl]

Gone, but not forgotten

Dec 07, 2010 - 03:08 PM

To the editor:

I was pleased to read MH's letter about the stone that was placed in Corporal Marie-France Comeau's memory at the monument in Cobourg. It was a fitting tribute to her, as it is to all victims of violence.

I would like to report that a candlelight vigil for Marie-France has taken place in Brighton. Held on Nov. 25, the first anniversary of her death, it was a quiet gathering of reflection and contemplation. I am aware now that Marie-France has indeed not been forgotten by our community. Thank you so much to those who organized this event.

KT

http://www.northumberlandnews.com/opinion/article/167470

 

[pswmommy]

Star needs to back off Lloyd stories
http://intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2892162

Someone had to say it. I was so angry after reading The Star article. While I get the point of what Mallick was saying, enough is enough, IMO. I am a resident of Belleville, was born here, and we will never forget what happened. This is just opening up the hurt all over again.
I am not related to Jessica or Marie France but we were all devastated when these crimes happened as well as the rest of the country. Time to stop placing blame.

MOO

 

[latte]

Well I'm still saying that the professionals closed shop at a convenient time, so as questions weren't asked and couldn't be answered. The professionals being the police department, who are paid by the people to protect the people.

They have no right not to answer these questions. They are not a private organisation for goodness sakes.

From the referred article :

"The facts are that the police services worked wonderfully well together to pin murder charges on the monster known as Russell Williams."

Not so. Yes, they did get the murderer. But after the last victim was murdered - not before. And with all the 'ifs' and 'maybe's' that quote is not right. Because of course we will never know.

But what we do know is that the police are answerable. Mistakes are made but coverups and hiding is not the way.

In my opinion it's not a question of blame. It's a question of the police department being arrogant enough to think they owe no explanation and they can simply hide. And that makes me angry.

 

[flipflop]

Well I'm still saying that the professionals closed shop at a convenient time, so as questions weren't asked and couldn't be answered. The professionals being the police department, who are paid by the people to protect the people.

They have no right not to answer these questions. They are not a private organisation for goodness sakes.

From the referred article :

"The facts are that the police services worked wonderfully well together to pin murder charges on the monster known as Russell Williams."

Not so. Yes, they did get the murderer. But after the last victim was murdered - not before. And with all the 'ifs' and 'maybe's' that quote is not right. Because of course we will never know.

But what we do know is that the police are answerable. Mistakes are made but coverups and hiding is not the way.

In my opinion it's not a question of blame. It's a question of the police department being arrogant enough to think they owe no explanation and they can simply hide. And that makes me angry.

What questions?

 

[latte]

After being called, police were at the Belleville property about 12.15pm, when they began their investigation.

We were told by Det Insp Nicholas the plate number was not taken but that the female officer who had checked the property the night before did give a description of the car, narrowing it down to 3?

As far as anyone can guess by what's been written up, the female officer put two and two together when she learned Jessica was missing and gave her information to the police.

Q :

When did she give her information? What time?

(Which means they take a written report home and deliver it the next day they're on duty? That could even be a Friday to a Monday morning?)

Why was the plate number not taken when two women had been attacked in their homes at night and a public warning had been given after the second, to women alone? Why was this not procedure when checking out a 'suspicious' car?

If it was procedure then the police are responsible for negligence and should be answerable.

The procedures are going to be reviewed. So how did the procedures go wrong? In what way?

We are not talking about a big city here. We're talking about communities where people all seemed to say they felt 'safe'. Two women had been attacked, in the same way, both alone and in their homes. What was happening was extremly unusual. Extremely bad. The police had publicly warned women alone. (And I'm again not mentioning the first murder, as that could have been viewed differently by police)

Accountability is missing here. Never mind the self-praising of a job well done. Or saying it's over and nothing can be done now, so let it rest, or whatever. No, we need confidence in the police. We need to know they have procedures in place that will protect us. Well I do.

 

[dotr]

His "rise to infamy" was also fuelled by the vast amount of information that emerged in court, from instantaneous tweets to photos of the high-ranking officer in girls' underwear that were splashed across the front pages from coast to coast, Lindgren said.

"Those two photographs, to me, told the story of Russell Williams's sickness and evilness of his act … in a way that I don't think even stories could convey," she said.



Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2010/12/23/williams-newsmaker-123.html#ixzz18zQ2onmQ

 

[dotr]

http://www.680news.com/news/nationa...russell-williams-chosen-newsmaker-of-the-year
From colonel to sex killer: Russell Williams chosen Newsmaker of the Year
Maria Babbage, The Canadian Press Dec 23, 2010 17:41:57 PM

No other serial killer... has mixed with the prime minister and so many dignitaries in society — in fact, was part of that society," Leyton said.

"That's the distinctive thing about him... He had a lot of prestige and power which he abused to the full."

 

[dotr]

http://www.ottawasun.com/news/canada/2010/12/24/16667141.html
Unfortunately, the legacy of the man who was able to climb so high in the ranks of our Armed Forces while leading a double life will live on, even as he rots away in an Ontario maximum-security cell in isolation.

 

[Wondergirl]

“(Williams) is the personification of evil ... a man who single-handedly reminded us not to judge a book by its cover.”​

He is the QMI Agency Newsmaker of the Year “for all the wrong reasons,” according to Steve Ripley, editor in chief of the Winnipeg Sun.

The story unfolded throughout the year – from his arrest in February to his trial in October. And the more the nation heard, the worse it got.

“It was bad enough when he was first arrested and charged but the details that emerged later painted him as one of the most contrasting individuals ever. Everything about this case was explosive,” said Calgary Sun managing editor Marty Hudson.

For Bill Glisky, the managing editor of the Belleville Intelligencer, the QMI Agency newspaper that first broke the news of Williams' arrest, the story became a local nightmare.

“From the graphic photos to video confessions to live tweeting, his was a case that tore up a small community ... and shocked a country.”

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/12/24/16666976.html

 

[Wondergirl]

Rest in Peace, Jessica and Marie-France, you did not deserve to die at the hands of a monster. Praying for your family and friends during this holiday season.

 

[dotr]

Number 3 is slain nurse Sonia Varaschin, whose killer is still on the loose but I am confident will be on this list one year from today. Sleep well, you b.....d.

Hopefully he will be interviewed by OPP Det.-Sgt. Jim Smyth, my Number 2 pick because it was he who got the confession out of the evil slayer of innocents Marie-France Comeau and Jessica Lloyd. His chilling interview of former colonel Russell Williams is now the new standard in how that is done.

As for Williams, feel free to take a stroll out in the general population at Kingston Pen today and let everyone know you made it to Number 1 of my newsmaker list for 2010.

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[Pink Panther]

Number 3 is slain nurse Sonia Varaschin, whose killer is still on the loose but I am confident will be on this list one year from today. Sleep well, you b.....d.

Hopefully he will be interviewed by OPP Det.-Sgt. Jim Smyth, my Number 2 pick because it was he who got the confession out of the evil slayer of innocents Marie-France Comeau and Jessica Lloyd. His chilling interview of former colonel Russell Williams is now the new standard in how that is done.

As for Williams, feel free to take a stroll out in the general population at Kingston Pen today and let everyone know you made it to Number 1 of my newsmaker list for 2010.

[email protected]

What do you mean by "number 3"??? "number 3" of what? Wasn't Sonia killed this summer? I don't understand how her murder relates to RW???

 

[dotr]

http://www.torontosun.com/news/columnists/joe_warmington/2010/12/29/16703501.html
It’s fascinating when you look back at a particular year of newsmakers. This is my 2010 list. Feel free to make yours.

Sorry,bad copy job.Point was that newsmaker number 1 is RW followed by Det. Smyth who in turn is now investigating SV, number 3.newsmaking story.

 

[Hazel]

http://www.torontosun.com/news/columnists/joe_warmington/2010/12/29/16703501.html
It’s fascinating when you look back at a particular year of newsmakers. This is my 2010 list. Feel free to make yours.

Sorry,bad copy job.Point was that newsmaker number 1 is RW followed by Det. Smyth who in turn is now investigating SV, number 3.newsmaking story.

Thanks dotr! here it is just in case:

Number 3 is slain nurse Sonia Varaschin, whose killer is still on the loose but I am confident will be on this list one year from today. Sleep well, you .

Hopefully he will be interviewed by OPP Det.-Sgt. Jim Smyth, my Number 2 pick because it was he who got the confession out of the evil slayer of innocents Marie-France Comeau and Jessica Lloyd. His chilling interview of former colonel Russell Williams is now the new standard in how that is done.

As for Williams, feel free to take a stroll out in the general population at Kingston Pen today and let everyone know you made it to Number 1 of my newsmaker list for 2010.

 

[dotr]

Good to know R.W and P.B.will not be "friending" each other on facebook anytime soon.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2011/01/04/16755081.html
Correctional Service Canada spokeswoman Sara Parkes told QMI Agency Bernardo has nothing to do with the pages on Facebook.
"No inmates have access to any electronic network," she said Tuesday. "It wouldn't be run by him."

 

[Pink Panther]

Since when do you have to provide medical records for a divorce? I could see it if you had been abused and needed to prove that but I don't see why it would be necessary otherwise.

I've been wondering the same thing maxfactor. Unless she wants to show evidence of abuse (mental or physical), I can't think why she would need to share medical records for a divorce???

ETA - Given the circumstances, I can't imagine that a divorce would not be granted without her having to raise any other issues. What possible advantage could there be in her providing additional reasons other than he is a convicted killer? Any legal-eagles on the board???

 

[fran]

Just FWIW....


Russell Williams' day: Dump body, help plan security for world leaders

The same day Russell Williams disposed of the frozen body of the second woman he murdered, the former air force colonel attended a top secret meeting in Toronto arranging security for the G20 summit, where he was to help protect the flights of U.S. President Barrack Obama and other world leaders, the National Post has learned.

The Feb. 3, 2010, meeting of senior military leaders, chaired by Brigadier-General Jean Collin, commander of the armed forces in Ontario, shows the trust Williams maintained before he was unmasked as a deadly sex predator.



Read more: http://www.nationalpost.com/news/ca...orld+leaders/4059890/story.html#ixzz1ACEA08NM