Found Deceased Canada - Shannon Burgess, 25, Calgary, 26 Nov 2014 - #1 *Arrest*

[otto]

Please re-read your statements. You have stated as FACT that SB was last seen by her husband at 12:30 a.m. and that "she left" indicating that she left her home at that specific time because the husband said so and the sister reiterated the statement at a presser.

My assertion, as is others, is that we do not know anything for a *fact* because LE has not made any statement that concludes this as *fact*. Frankly, given that the FAMILY has made these statements, what is the difference between those and their own posts on their FB pages? Would this also not be considered rumour or speculation?

Have the CPS *confirmed* this timeline or are they merely stating what the family have said?

I'm happy to accept the statements made by police and Shannon's sister at the press conference. Based on that information, we know that after 12:30 on Nov 27, Shannon is completely unaccounted for. The family is cooperative, per the police. She is not at home, so she left either by choice, or involuntarily. By Thursday morning, she was already completely silent, and has remained for almost a month.

I hope that she is found soon for the family's sake.

 

[news.talk]

I'm happy to accept the statements made by police and Shannon's sister at the press conference. Based on that information, we know that after 12:30 on Nov 27, Shannon is completely unaccounted for. The family is cooperative, per the police. She is not at home, so she left either by choice, or involuntarily. By Thursday morning, she was already completely silent, and has remained for almost a month.

I hope that she is found soon for the family's sake.

All the police stated at that presser, is that "she was last seen" - that in NO way means they have confirmed that statement as a fact nor that they have stopped pursuing other investigative avenues.

 

[Micheline]

One question remains that is not included in your assumptions - Did SB even return from Edmonton or did the husband drive her and dispose of her body along the way?

The fact is, we do not have confirmation from LE that SB was indeed last seen at her home. We only have the estranged husband's word. There are MANY possible variables and it is important to keep an open mind and not rely on unsubstantiated statements disguised as facts.

I made an assumption of the possible scenario of that night that JB may have offered to Shannon's family, since that was the discussion.

At this point I believe Shannon does not want to be found, because of the police and family reassuring her multiple times that she is not in any kind of trouble and no one is angry with her. If you choose to believe otherwise and be suspicious of the husband then that is fine with me.

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

And unless someone else can corroborate the husband's claim that he last saw her at 12:30am when she left, who's to say it's actually true? I could tell you right now that my neighbor Billy Bob got into his truck this morning at 5:00am and drove off but unless I can somehow prove this to be true, or someone else can corroborate it, it could be something I made up/exaggerated/was mistaken about/fabricated, etc.

The last known information about Shannon came from her husband. He last saw her late Wednesday evening. Shannon's sister stated during the press conference that "she left". Shannon was unaccounted for on Thursday morning, so if she's not at home, she left. It's still unknown whether she left voluntarily.

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

Frankly at this point, given that her family and friends don't seem to be too concerned, don't seem to be making any new attempts to appeal to the public to search for her, to look out for her, to keep this all alive in the media then I personally think we here are wasting our time and it would be better spent on helping with other missing people. Starting to seem really pointless now and with no new info we're just all going around in circles, asking the same questions again and again. I'm movin' on to other cases.

I made an assumption of the possible scenario of that night that JB may have offered to Shannon's family, since that was the discussion.

At this point I believe Shannon does not want to be found, because of the police and family reassuring her multiple times that she is not in any kind of trouble and no one is angry with her. If you choose to believe otherwise and be suspicious of the husband then that is fine with me.

 

[news.talk]

Frankly at this point, given that her family and friends don't seem to be too concerned, don't seem to be making any new attempts to appeal to the public to search for her, to look out for her, to keep this all alive in the media then I personally think we here are wasting our time and it would be better spent on helping with other missing people. Starting to seem really pointless now and with no new info we're just all going around in circles, asking the same questions again and again. I'm movin' on to other cases.

What bothers me is, zero financial activity, no friends coming forward with information (even on the rumoured social-media) and the big one - Our LE does not usually dispatch several police specialty units and shut down an entire Provincial park for a couple of pictures... Unless they suspect that there is possible foul play.

 

[Micheline]

Frankly at this point, given that her family and friends don't seem to be too concerned, don't seem to be making any new attempts to appeal to the public to search for her, to look out for her, to keep this all alive in the media then I personally think we here are wasting our time and it would be better spent on helping with other missing people. Starting to seem really pointless now and with no new info we're just all going around in circles, asking the same questions again and again. I'm movin' on to other cases.

I do not have the idea to be of help in any way by discussing the disappearance of Shannon, I do wonder what happened to her though.
Her family and friends may have their reasons for not coming forward with much information, if for example Shannon had mental problems and they would say so, they could ruin a potential acting carreer of someone who takes a brake from her family. And hereby make any minor issues only worse, so I can see why they are reluctant to do so.
The whole family lining up in the presser also imo was to show Shannon, look we are here we care, let us know etc. Her family deserves answers as much as someone who is willing to tell anything about their missing relative, respecting her privacy for any reason they may have should not have as a result that people forget about the case or do not look out for her. IMO

 

[news.talk]

I do not have the idea to be of help in any way by discussing the disappearance of Shannon, I do wonder what happened to her though.
Her family and friends may have their reasons for not coming forward with much information, if for example Shannon had mental problems and they would say so, they could ruin a potential acting carreer of someone who takes a brake from her family. And hereby make any minor issues only worse, so I can see why they are reluctant to do so.
The whole family lining up in the presser also imo was to show Shannon, look we are here we care, let us know etc. Her family deserves answers as much as someone who is willing to tell anything about their missing relative, respecting her privacy for any reason they may have should not have as a result that people forget about the case or do not look out for her. IMO

If you look at other family pressers, the 'line-up' and resulting statements are common.

How does one explain the fact that there has been no financial activity, no social-media presence, no sightings and no leads? Why would SB go to the trouble of traveling to an audition, making plans with family, missing work commitments and then vanishing without a trace? Nothing we have heard explains why this could happen.

 

[deugirtni]

Even though LE has apparently received an answer which satisfies them, I still can't help wondering if those pictures posted in the trees in the park aren't somehow related *anyway*... because... who would really do that... and even if the group *would* do that, then why make it during a time when a girl is highly in the news as missing and not only that, but their 'artistic' endeavours are so closely matched to said missing girl in the news, and not only that, but it was said that the 'photos' were macabre? Who does that? And like you said, there must have been something about those pictures to carry enough resemblance and concern for LE to expend resources on it in relation to *this* specific case, and then said 'artistic group' says oops and apologizes? It's all just too weird to me. JMO

What bothers me is, zero financial activity, no friends coming forward with information (even on the rumoured social-media) and the big one - Our LE does not usually dispatch several police specialty units and shut down an entire Provincial park for a couple of pictures... Unless they suspect that there is possible foul play.

 

[deugirtni]

I can't help wondering and feeling that *because* there doesnt' seem to be much of a rumbling going on in this case, no news, updates, posters, searches, seemingly nothing.. from either LE or the family.. LE may be quietly (of course) making headway in their investigative work, and the next thing we will hear is that they have made an arrest. I sure hope something happens *soon* with it now being only 3.5 days until Christmas. I can't imagine the heartache and stress of having a loved one just disappeared into thin air and nothing at all found at Christmas. I would think that would make certain in everyone's minds, if it wasn't before, that this was not a voluntary thing. MOO.

Frankly at this point, given that her family and friends don't seem to be too concerned, don't seem to be making any new attempts to appeal to the public to search for her, to look out for her, to keep this all alive in the media then I personally think we here are wasting our time and it would be better spent on helping with other missing people. Starting to seem really pointless now and with no new info we're just all going around in circles, asking the same questions again and again. I'm movin' on to other cases.

 

[stan laurel]

I wonder if anyone responded to her comment of not being able to make the event on Wednesday night, or why or what she was substituting that night with?

Besides debating, has anyone been sleuthing?

 

[dotr]

A reminder..

http://www.calgarysun.com/2014/12/1...areness-to-missing-calgary-womans-case-sister

"Provided the creepy photos found attached to trees in Fish Creek Park really do turn out to be nothing, the sister of the missing 25-year-old Calgary actor says she actually welcomes all the attention, as sinister as the snapshots may seem.

“It means there’s a little bit more publicity, and hopefully that means more people are looking and somebody will actually see her,” said Erin Madill."

rbbm

 

[LoisLane]

[SUP][/SUP]

I wonder if anyone responded to her comment of not being able to make the event on Wednesday night, or why or what she was substituting that night with?

Besides debating, has anyone been sleuthing?

She posted that comment at 9:15pm. No likes or responses. But anyone of her friends or members of that group who would have checked the Yuk Yuk's page would have known that after 9:15 that evening that she was back in Calgary. I wonder who else she would have contacted to let them know she made it home from her trip.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

What bothers me is, zero financial activity, no friends coming forward with information (even on the rumoured social-media) and the big one - Our LE does not usually dispatch several police specialty units and shut down an entire Provincial park for a couple of pictures... Unless they suspect that there is possible foul play.

I think there's something happening that's being kept quiet. Maybe the family is being told by LE to lay low for a reason.

There are tons of FB posts with Shannon's picture and info that has been shared a lot to get around to the masses, but like you said - not a lot of comments I noticed under these posts. This could be part of a plan by LE, they might be silently zeroing in on someone…watching….and waiting….

 

[Lalalacasbah]

I do not have the idea to be of help in any way by discussing the disappearance of Shannon, I do wonder what happened to her though.
Her family and friends may have their reasons for not coming forward with much information, if for example Shannon had mental problems and they would say so, they could ruin a potential acting carreer of someone who takes a brake from her family. And hereby make any minor issues only worse, so I can see why they are reluctant to do so.
The whole family lining up in the presser also imo was to show Shannon, look we are here we care, let us know etc. Her family deserves answers as much as someone who is willing to tell anything about their missing relative, respecting her privacy for any reason they may have should not have as a result that people forget about the case or do not look out for her. IMO

I keep thinking, what if she had mental issues and took off if foul play hasn't occurred? But then I think - would she be stable enough to do this in the middle of the night without being seen or heard of by not *one* friend, get herself all the way to Vancouver or Toronto and not only would she be unstable but with presumably no money?

If someone had any type of mental breakdown and left their house in the middle of the night, there would be at least one person they would call. They might go to a bar and have a drink (someone would've seen), they might go to a 24 hour coffee shop and have a coffee (and be seen). It seems strange she would leave the house in the middle of the night and go where? Straight to Vancouver? Not talk to anyone on the way? And if so, how?

 

[dotr]

Any chance at all, that the apparent silence, is due to a " kidnap for ransom " or whatever, type situation?
Theater people can do theatrical things after all, and still hoping for a " Yes Virginia there is a Santa Claus" outcome to this case.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

I wonder if anyone responded to her comment of not being able to make the event on Wednesday night, or why or what she was substituting that night with?

Besides debating, has anyone been sleuthing?

I posed that question earlier upthread, but didn't sleuth or find out what she did instead. I questioned *what* would be a good reason to bail on the event?

The only reasons I thought that a gal would pass up plans is either something better came up or a meet up with someone more appealing to see or a big brawl with the ex to put a damper on things or something unpredictable like no transportation (didn't her brakes go before Wednesday?)

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Any chance at all, that the apparent silence, is due to a " kidnap for ransom " or whatever, type situation?
Theater people can do theatrical things after all, and still hoping for a " Yes Virginia there is a Santa Claus" outcome to this case.

Hey, you never know. Some things I hear on the news seem completely unbelievable, so nothing ever surprises me in this crazy world!

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Stan, you mentioned there's a truckers hangout around her neighborhood, was it a pit stop place for them? I wonder if she would've hit up a trucker for a ride to Van or towards east? Not sure how Shannon felt about hitchhiking but maybe she had some cash on her and decided to do a Thelma & Louise style cross-province road trip. I don't think she would, seems a little risky but trying to think outside the box….

 

[dotr]

I do not have the idea to be of help in any way by discussing the disappearance of Shannon, I do wonder what happened to her though.
Her family and friends may have their reasons for not coming forward with much information, if for example Shannon had mental problems and they would say so, they could ruin a potential acting carreer of someone who takes a brake from her family. And hereby make any minor issues only worse, so I can see why they are reluctant to do so.
The whole family lining up in the presser also imo was to show Shannon, look we are here we care, let us know etc. Her family deserves answers as much as someone who is willing to tell anything about their missing relative, respecting her privacy for any reason they may have should not have as a result that people forget about the case or do not look out for her. IMO

One reason a family may not reveal that a missing person has emotional problems, is because if suicide is suspected, the public may lose the interest and momentum , to help find the person. moo.