Found Deceased Canada - Shannon Burgess, 25, Calgary, 26 Nov 2014 - #3 *Arrest*

[OutOfTheDarkness]

Was it said somewhere that Shannon had mental issues?

I agree with you that it would be interesting to see the similarities in the different missing cases. I looked through the missings list at http://missingpeople.ca/category/missing-person/missing-in-alberta/
and I couldn't find anything, except that there are way too many teens that went missing in Red Dear.

It has been widely speculated. Someone said they read it somewhere, but I can't provide any links.

Regardless, it would be helpful for society at large to identify how much mental illness plays a part in missing persons cases. Perhaps many issues could be prevented with better education and a better system of helping individuals in need.

Step 1 is making a case with statistics and evidence.

 

[news.talk]

It has been widely speculated. Someone said they read it somewhere, but I can't provide any links.

Regardless, it would be helpful for society at large to identify how much mental illness plays a part in missing persons cases. Perhaps many issues could be prevented with better education and a better system of helping individuals in need.

Step 1 is making a case with statistics and evidence.

It has been addressed and many Law Enforcement agencies and non-profit organizations have been implementing the suggestions in this report:

http://www.missingwomeninquiry.ca/obtain-report/

 

[Leischa]

It has been widely speculated. Someone said they read it somewhere, but I can't provide any links.

Regardless, it would be helpful for society at large to identify how much mental illness plays a part in missing persons cases. Perhaps many issues could be prevented with better education and a better system of helping individuals in need.

Step 1 is making a case with statistics and evidence.

I remember hearing something about it but I was wondering if there has been some sort of clear statement that she'd dealt with mental issues. I remember reading somewhere about an eating disorder but I can't remember where it was. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think eating disorders are condisered mental illnesses, or at least psychological illnesses.

It would be interesting to know the statistics.

 

[news.talk]

I remember hearing something about it but I was wondering if there has been some sort of clear statement that she'd dealt with mental issues. I remember reading somewhere about an eating disorder but I can't remember where it was. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think eating disorders are condisered mental illnesses, or at least psychological illnesses.

It would be interesting to know the statistics.

You can find her blog if you google her username "Shanswer" - It should pull up all her social-media activity.

 

[Leischa]

You can find her blog if you google her username "Shanswer" - It should pull up all her social-media activity.

I did that and couldn't find where I read that thing about an eating disorder or her worrying about her weight...

 

[Lalalacasbah]

I did that and couldn't find where I read that thing about an eating disorder or her worrying about her weight...

IIRC, the info is in her Reddit posts (or was it in her FB notes?) One of those I believe...

 

[Leischa]

IIRC, the info is in her Reddit posts (or was it in her FB notes?) One of those I believe...

Thanks, I'll look through those.

 

[Leischa]

IIRC, the info is in her Reddit posts (or was it in her FB notes?) One of those I believe...

It's weird because I can only read two out of six of her Facebook notes, and I can only read them by clicking on the preview located at the left of her timeline.

 

[dotr]

Not to go o/t, just noting this news, a child was lured and a woman, attacked ..
http://www.calgarysun.com/2015/03/1...-against-50-year-old--in-case-involving-child

"Calgary police Child Abuse Unit Staff Sgt. Robert Rutledge said it appears the 10-year-old victim may have contacted a number scribbled on notes left at Queen’s Park Cemetery last summer, which described bondage and other lurid acts.

“The notes that were found throughout the cemetery on fences, trees and gates were describing sexual acts and acts of bondage with a cell number for people to contact,” he said."

 

[Leischa]

Not to go o/t, just noting this news, a child was lured and a woman, attacked ..
http://www.calgarysun.com/2015/03/1...-against-50-year-old--in-case-involving-child

"Calgary police Child Abuse Unit Staff Sgt. Robert Rutledge said it appears the 10-year-old victim may have contacted a number scribbled on notes left at Queen’s Park Cemetery last summer, which described bondage and other lurid acts.

“The notes that were found throughout the cemetery on fences, trees and gates were describing sexual acts and acts of bondage with a cell number for people to contact,” he said."

This is just disgusting. :maddening:

I wonder how many people he lured or raped or who knows what he did to them..?

The fact that there were notes on fences, trees and gates kind of reminds me of the pictures found at Fish Creek... Even though we don't even know what and who was on those pictures.

 

[deugirtni]

Makes you wonder... who would actually CALL a phone number listed on such a note in such a place by such a stranger??

And yes, it does remind of the Fish Creek photos.. but according to SB's sister.. they were 'happy' pics, not 'macabre' as was reported in MSM. I'm still betting on 'macabre' myself. MOO

This is just disgusting. :maddening:

I wonder how many people he lured or raped or who knows what he did to them..?

The fact that there were notes on fences, trees and gates kind of reminds me of the pictures found at Fish Creek... Even though we don't even know what and who was on those pictures.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

I still can't believe how quiet things are regarding Shannon. I have a bad feeling and hope I'm wrong, but if there was any hope she was out there on her own free will or whatever, people would be pounding the pavement more looking for her.

Most of the people who knew her wouldn't just be sitting so still unless they were instructed by LE. There would be some activity, movement, pleads, shout out to media, social media sharing still going or *something*. It isn't looking good...

 

[OutOfTheDarkness]

I still can't believe how quiet things are regarding Shannon. I have a bad feeling and hope I'm wrong, but if there was any hope she was out there on her own free will or whatever, people would be pounding the pavement more looking for her.

Most of the people who knew her wouldn't just be sitting so still unless they were instructed by LE. There would be some activity, movement, pleads, shout out to media, social media sharing still going or *something*. It isn't looking good...

It can be read both ways though... something as simple as evidence of a ticket purchase to somewhere could also dull the search. Some sort of evidence of willful flight... then it turns into a wait for her to reach out.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

It can be read both ways though... something as simple as evidence of a ticket purchase to somewhere could also dull the search. Some sort of evidence of willful flight... then it turns into a wait for her to reach out.

Yes, I never thought about it like that, but that's an awfully lot of anguish and patience for the family to have. Not sure I could do that if it was my family member or not, it would be extremely hard to wait. I almost think I would try to make contact just so that person knows they are loved and needed.

Sitting and waiting might send a message to someone that no one cares and if that person is feeling sorry for themselves, or depressed this could validate those isolated feelings. It's so hard, no matter what move is taken they both could push the person away more.

 

[news.talk]

It can be read both ways though... something as simple as evidence of a ticket purchase to somewhere could also dull the search. Some sort of evidence of willful flight... then it turns into a wait for her to reach out.

If that is the case, why haven't the family reached out to her on their social-media pages or through the media?

 

[OutOfTheDarkness]

If that is the case, why haven't the family reached out to her on their social-media pages or through the media?

You mean like "you're not in trouble"? Nuff said... especially if they are aware everyone now knows about the lifestyle... who wants to answer those questions in the media or Facebook?

 

[OutOfTheDarkness]

As in the Liknes/O'Brien case, would LE tell the family there is no hope before charges are laid?

 

[Lalalacasbah]

I've been following this thread, the Liknes/O'Brien thread, Emma Fillipoff, and the Justin Mckinnon-Blomme thread.

I'm curious to look up the stats as to how many missing people cases are actually cases of people leaving willingly with and without mental health issues. It just seems bizarre that most of these cases almost *seem* like all these people could have consciously left their lives for new starts, even though I fear the stats might say otherwise.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

You mean like "you're not in trouble"? Nuff said... especially if they are aware everyone now knows about the lifestyle... who wants to answer those questions in the media or Facebook?

I don't think the lifestyle is really a big deal considering what's in movies (50 Shades was a box office smash), TV and the net these days.

The persecution days are outdated nowadays with lifestyle choices, people are much more open minded with people's choices. They might not agree, but for her age group it's not shocking stuff. Maybe a bit embarrassing, cringe worthy for the family to know, but I don't think that would embarrass her and keep her a way. I picture Shannon throwing her head back, laughing and saying charmingly 'oh my, you all are a nosy bunch' or something funny and witty like that, having a laugh and might even like the ruckus a little.

 

[OutOfTheDarkness]

I've been following this thread, the Liknes/O'Brien thread, Emma Fillipoff, and the Justin Mckinnon-Blomme thread.

I'm curious to look up the stats as to how many missing people cases are actually cases of people leaving willingly with and without mental health issues. It just seems bizarre that most of these cases almost *seem* like all these people could have consciously left their lives for new starts, even though I fear the stats might say otherwise.

Being on the outside of the real story, the real relationships, the real people... you can only go on assumptions. Being on a sleuthing site, everyone wants to solve the crime, and look at everything from that angle first, sometimes forsaking the realities of real life.

Every statement from loved ones also has to be taken with a grain of salt... don't you find it strange that everyone that goes missing is a saint? Would anyone close to them really admit they just argued with them the week leading up to the disappearance? Would they admit they weren't all that tight growing up? There are a lot of selective statements... some to protect the speaker, some to keep the public from dismissing the missing person as a flake, and some to protect the reputation or image of the missing person.

I'm all for solving the crime, but sometimes appearances and evidence are proof of nothing more than a real person living their life.