CANADA Canada - Sonia Varaschin, 42, Orangeville, 29 Aug 2010 - #2

[Kamille]

Screams NOT a local.

Contradictions

The place where her body was found might not be somewhere an Orangeville local would be familiar with. It was all the way at the end of the road, almost at Airport Rd in Caledon. And it was on the side of the road that a car travelling westbound back towards Orangeville would pull over on. So it appears that the car may have turned around at the end of the sideroad instead of turning onto a busier road and continuing on and headed back westbound before disposing of the body. And that was done in a hurry IMO. At that point I think they just wanted to be done and get back home before daylight. Before the chances increased that someone would see them and their blood splattered clothing. A young perp who perhaps doesn't have their own car or hasn't done much driving between Orangeville and Caledon might not be familiar with that road. The normal route would be Hwy 9 to Airport, not an unpaved narrow sideroad. Why would someone local travel that road?

MOO

 

[Deleted member 102539]

I don't understand why they didn't come forward in the first place if they knew they were that close to one of the crime scenes assuming one or both of them are not the perp. Other than the possibility it was a drug deal going on that morning and they didn't have a good explanation why they were there at such an odd time. Maybe young and scared and didn't want to deal with LE questions. But they're not that young anymore. And there's nothing they were doing that they can "get in trouble" for now. There has to be a reason why these two did not come forward to LE and help with determining a timeline back then. But there is no good reason now if they know about that video being released.

I wonder if we'll ever know if one or both do come forward and speak to LE?

MOO

I wonder why $50.000 reward apparent was to no avail re Orangeville citizen but especially the two gazebo "witnesses".

 

[dreamwatcher]

I wonder why $50.000 reward apparent was to no avail re Orangeville citizen but especially the two gazebo "witnesses".

Excellent question!

 

[dotr]

Assuming this wanted man has his DNA in databank, but who knows ? Did SV ever work with religious groups?
Thinking about the blonde that may have been seen near Mono attack...

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/eng/wanted-by-the-rcmp/wanted-john-alan-joseph-tucsok

"
Wanted - John Alan Joseph Tucsok
Wanted on Canada-wide warrant for sexual assault, sexual exploitation

John Alan Joseph Tucsok is wanted on a Canada-Wide Warrant for multiple sex offences involving female youths. Tucsok was a church elder in Ontario and sexually assaulted female youths associated with the church over a 4 year period. He may still be a member of, or associating with Christian groups. Tucsok was at large on bail when he fled Ontario in 2003. He was last known to be in the Calgary area."



"

Sex: Male
Born: August 1960
Hair Colour: Blond
Eye Colour: Blue
Weight: 175 lb / 79 kg
Height: 5 ft 5 in / 165 cm

John Tucsok
Warnings:

Take no action to apprehend this person yourself. Report any information to the nearest RCMP detachment or the police in your area or contact Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477.

Considered to be:

Violent"

bbm

 

[Chorley8]

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2014/03/01/arrests_made_in_death_of_orangeville_man.html

May have been discussed Heart Lake Road not far from crime scene/dump site.

 

[dreamwatcher]

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2014/03/01/arrests_made_in_death_of_orangeville_man.html

May have been discussed Heart Lake Road not far from crime scene/dump site.

quote from article: In March 2011, Kera Freeland, a Toronto escort, was found in a ditch on Heart Lake Road near Old Baseline Road after she had gone missing a month earlier.unquote

Kera was murdered by her male room mate. He murdered her in Toronto and drove her body to Caledon and dumped it in the ditch. Kera was moving out that day and was to move in with her girlfriend.

Interestingly - here is a case of someone who knew her very well, killed her, and moved the body.
He hung around for a short period of time, left after the funeral and was found by police, living in Calgary Alberta.

Lab results from DNA do take time. DNA led to fingering him. (No, he was not the father of her unborn child)

There are many cases where bodies are removed from the home and dumped in the outskirts. Usually a hubby, a lover, or someone who knows the victim very well.

 

[dreamwatcher]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ount-in-idyllic-corner-of-gta/article4210398/

Caledon had 8 bodies dumped in 5 years. One would scream serial murder - but not the case.

Raquel Junio after she was abducted from her Brampton home in 2011. Her estranged husband has been charged.

Poonam Litt, a 27-year-old mother who disappeared from Brampton three years ago. (Her in-laws who were living with her and her husband were charged with murder.)

Kera Freeland - Escort - from Toronto -( male room mate was charged).

Sonia Varaschin - murdered in Orangeville and left in Caledon.

That is four that I can find. Apparently there are 4 more.

To date 3 out 4 knew their killers (the fourth is Sonia - still unsolved) and
They were all moved from the murder scene.

 

[Chorley8]

quote from article: In March 2011, Kera Freeland, a Toronto escort, was found in a ditch on Heart Lake Road near Old Baseline Road after she had gone missing a month earlier.unquote

Kera was murdered by her male room mate. He murdered her in Toronto and drove her body to Caledon and dumped it in the ditch. Kera was moving out that day and was to move in with her girlfriend.

Interestingly - here is a case of someone who knew her very well, killed her, and moved the body.
He hung around for a short period of time, left after the funeral and was found by police, living in Calgary Alberta.

Lab results from DNA do take time. DNA led to fingering him. (No, he was not the father of her unborn child)

There are many cases where bodies are removed from the home and dumped in the outskirts. Usually a hubby, a lover, or someone who knows the victim very well.

Not to say it is the case here but speaking just generally, hypothetically: LE could have DNA evidence of a deceased's boyfriend AND another male. They would assume the boyfriend's DNA is there consensually when in fact both were there consensually and the crime is the result of jealousy (by the boyfriend).

In Sonia's case speaking with little evidence I am still interested in employees at the hospital she left. Her sudden act of rebellion there could have some deeper cause i.e. a relationship say with a doctor.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Christian group - IMO not at Couchiching Camp - 4.-16.7.2010 - IMO not at CADS (skying with disabled children) in Calgary(?).
But with many many people in contact through SV's profession and/or her hobby (nursering in camps) and through the dating line also.
Possibly in contact with a physician in hospital or camp or both. Possibly a dispute personal/work.
Possibly a love relation to a happy married doctor as those men (sorry) like to have a lover out of the staff.
Possibly murder because of jealousy: IR (the on-and-off friend), a doctor, a dating man, some other.

Sorry, my post today's morning has disappeared, auto-saving didn't work, I try in brief form now.

 

[dreamwatcher]

Yes, From Germany, that is why le are having difficulty. Sonia's work, her volunteer work, her sports, etc placed her in a position of knowing so many people - not to mention her past patients.:gaah:

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Christian group - IMO not at Couchiching Camp - 4.-16.7.2010 - IMO not at CADS (skying with disabled children) in Calgary(?).
But with many many people in contact through SV's profession and/or her hobby (nursering in camps) and through the dating line also.
Possibly in contact with a physician in hospital or camp or both. Possibly a dispute personal/work.
Possibly a love relation to a happy married doctor as those men (sorry) like to have a lover out of the staff.
Possibly murder because of jealousy: IR (the on-and-off friend), a doctor, a dating man, some other.

Sorry, my post today's morning has disappeared, auto-saving didn't work, I try in brief form now.

Christian group re Tucsok (I forgot)
Wanted - John Alan Joseph Tucsok
Wanted on Canada-wide warrant for sexual assault, sexual exploitation

 

[dreamwatcher]

Well, all that we know, is that he was acquainted with her, according to le - but, how did he know that her door was left unlocked? How did he know the layout of her apartment? How did he know where she kept her car keys?? That is a bigee to me - He to my mind, has been in that townhouse before - knew her personal habits, example letting the cat out or to bring it back in, before she went to bed. (Some articles claim that she let the cat out - others that she let the cat in)

If the killer knew these personal things, then she knew the killer. This is my personal opinion.

 

[matou]

Come on people....who did this???? This case is going to drive me crazy. SAD.....

 

[colette]

Well, all that we know, is that he was acquainted with her, according to le - but, how did he know that her door was left unlocked? How did he know the layout of her apartment? How did he know where she kept her car keys?? That is a bigee to me - He to my mind, has been in that townhouse before - knew her personal habits, example letting the cat out or to bring it back in, before she went to bed. (Some articles claim that she let the cat out - others that she let the cat in)

If the killer knew these personal things, then she knew the killer. This is my personal opinion.

Or it was someone who was watching her, such as a neighbor or stalker that she was unaware of.

 

[dreamwatcher]

Possibly a neighbour, or someone who lived a street or two over. I would think they would have to be familiar with the layout of her townhome.

 

[dotr]

Re post, just to keep in mind.. There really was something unusual does this mean the perp is unusual, or that a regular guy/gal acted unusually?
bbm.


http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/12/16/opp-profile-sonia-varaschins-killer/

"It was the “unusual” circumstances surrounding the murder which led the OPP to obtain help from other law enforcement agencies said Det.-Insp Pritchard


<<<Snip>>>>>



"The risky behaviour displayed by the killer, said Det.-Insp Pritchard, was entering Ms. Varaschin&#8217;s home, killing her and then removing her body in the close confines of her townhouse complex. Ms. Varaschin&#8217;s killer also drove her car to the area where he disposed of her body, and then abandoned it close to the scene of the murder, with blood clearly visible on the outside of the car.

He said the behaviour was not only risky but &#8220;reckless.&#8221;

Investigators also said Ms. Varaschin may have been known to the killer."

 

[Wondergirl]

Re post, just to keep in mind.. There really was something unusual does this mean the perp is unusual, or that a regular guy/gal acted unusually?
bbm.


http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/12/16/opp-profile-sonia-varaschins-killer/

"It was the “unusual” circumstances surrounding the murder which led the OPP to obtain help from other law enforcement agencies said Det.-Insp Pritchard


<<<Snip>>>>>



"The risky behaviour displayed by the killer, said Det.-Insp Pritchard, was entering Ms. Varaschin’s home, killing her and then removing her body in the close confines of her townhouse complex. Ms. Varaschin’s killer also drove her car to the area where he disposed of her body, and then abandoned it close to the scene of the murder, with blood clearly visible on the outside of the car.

He said the behaviour was not only risky but “reckless.”

Investigators also said Ms. Varaschin may have been known to the killer."

When you remind me of these details all summarized like that, I always go back to a very young perp, and my mind wants to say 2 or more people involved.

Why?

Is it impossible for 1 person to have done all those things? No.

Sonia's murder gets to me at all hours of the day. It's like this nagging thing, like, I know the answer or a piece of the puzzle, but I can't figure it out.

Her beautiful life was taken for no reason at all. It is so very sad.

Rest in Peace, Sonia. [emoji20]

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Murdering a woman - well (NOT okay).

Leaving trail (worker boots of a specific brand) - unusually (IMO).

Taking her car - unusually (IMO).

Dumping the body - well.

Driving her car (with blood outside) back to a parking lot near the crime scene - very unusually (IMO).

Leaving 2 front doors and trunk wide open - unusually (IMO).

Who was that mad/insane perp? A woman - don't think so (not solely).

Did the perp want to make LE ridiculous? Did he want to establish only confusion?

 

[dotr]

It seems like someone wanted to take complete control of a nurse, (Sonia).
Maybe perp has some unusual blood/dirt/ nurse/medical, issues?

Dirty SV, murder / blood.
Dirty her bedsheets/comforter with blood
Dirty up her house/stairs with his bloodied boots
Dirty Sonia's car, with body and blood.
Dirty neighbourhood with sight of bloodied mess.

 

[dreamwatcher]

I think he really panicked and took these risks. He took them because?

1. He was afraid that he would be connected to her, if he left her body there. (dna)
2. He was afraid that someone in the townhouse complexes, or surrounding streets would make a connection. Perhaps he was seen talking to her in the area or was in Sonia's townhouse a few days before the murder.
LE say that there is only one killer, but I wonder if he had help in disposing the body?