Casey To Serve One Year Probation

[lorann]

Wow, IN must be WAY different from FL!! Here, community service means volunteering for a nonprofit org., NOT working for a for-profit business.

We have Workforce offices across the state that help all kinds of people find jobs, but they do not give any subsidy to employers for hiring their clients.

I guess I was just rambling - community service and this agency are two different things. Here, I know of a new company that hired people without jobs, and while they were in training, the employers were subsidized. State paid half ($4) and employer paid half($4). That was a couple of years ago so don't know if that still happens.

 

[lonetraveler]

She must hate the thought of going back to the mess she made.

Yep! You shouldn't crap in your own bed, you might have to sleep in it! :great:

 

[ZsaZsa]

So what would be a violation of her probation? A traffic ticket? Parking ticket? Driving without a license? Public intoxication? What if a bartender pours one (or ten) too many drinks for her?

Getting in touch with Amy H would be one violation...

 

[2goldfish]

OMG.....

http://www.jobsforfelonsinflorida.com/



The site also mentions tourism.

Yeah, now I feel real safe. Not!

that, what you quoted. in the healthcare field around the elderly. IS HORRIFYING.

 

[rotterdam]

According to Ch.6 TV today- Judge Perry stated the Probation Board can allow her to live and serve her probation in any state since she is considered the most hated person in the US. But she must make her first appearance in Orlando to get their permission.

Yep, and she can not take Baez with her to the probation meeting as far as I know. And she can not lie either to her P.O.:great:

 

[sunsetbeach]

snipped from : http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28838309/detail.html

In his order, Perry cited a survey that found Anthony was the most hated person in America. Perry ruled that the department of corrections must keep Anthony's residential information confidential. Perry said in the order he did not want any information released that could lead to the discovery of her location.


RBM:

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo: Wow ... JP put this in his Order !

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

BBM

Actually I read that a lil bit different.

What it says is: "It is further ORDERED that the Florida Department of Corrections is hereby authorized in it's discretion to keep confidential the Defendant's residential information that could lead to discovery of her location due to threats on the Defendant's life"


So it sounds like to me that HHJP is telling the FDC to use their own discretion with the information.

Descretion: freedom or authority to make judgments and to act as one sees fit (esp in the phrases at one's own discretion, at the discretion of )

ETA:

Legal Dictionary

Main Entry: dis·cre·tion
Pronunciation: dis-'kre-sh&n
Function: noun
: power of free decision or latitude of choice within certain bounds imposed by law discretion > discretion —L. H. Tribe>: as a : the power of a judge to use his or her own judgment in making decisions guided by what is fair and equitable and by principles of law —see also ABUSE OF DISCRETION b : the power of a public official or employee to act and make decisions based on his or her own judgment or conscience within the bounds of reason and the law Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc.

 

[Omachka]

That still doesn't stop her from getting paid for an interview though.

I wasn't aware she was being paid for one. I will avoid watching that. Do you know who is interviewing her? I do hope the IRS finds out. Of course, she'll be much easier to track down for the next year. :great:

 

[Aedrys]

That still doesn't stop her from getting paid for an interview though.

She was declared indigent. She can't be doing interviews and making money, or that indigent status goes away. Any money she makes is going to be watched like a hawk by the IRS because she owes them. She is not a celebrity, and she is not going to be living high on the hog while on probation.

And how do I put this. Real celebrities doing normal things get attention. Real celebrities being idiots gets attention. Real celebrities doing community service for their probation gets attention because of how they dress and because they don't normally have to suffer consequences like that. People are interested either in the unattainableness of being a celebrity, or seeing celebrities act in stupid ways that lessen their status in the eyes of Joe Public. If they're not unattainable, at least they can be made fun of for doing something stupid and getting caught on film.

Casey is not a real celebrity. She was unattainable and exclusive until now thanks to her money hungry DT, but being infamous doesn't make a person be in the same realm as actual celebrities. I mean shoot, actual celebrities don't even like Casey Anthony. A convicted felon forced to live a normal life on probation is not going to get any attention after a short while. Anyone will be able to get pictures of her if she is seen. There goes exclusive picture deals. Casey is not even interesting as a person. All she does is tell lie after lie. No one is going to be interested in an interview with her, especially now that she is on probation. Her marketability as someone living the high life with exclusive picture deals is over. She can't hide anymore. She can't play games anymore. She's not unattainable or exclusive anymore, and that makes her a lot less interesting to go after. Her shot at making millions of dollars is over.

Casey is going to be boring, so very boring, unless she violates her probation. Only then will she be back in the news.

 

[Murphismo]

Yep, and she can not take Baez with her to the probation meeting as far as I know. And she can not lie either to her P.O.:great:

WHOS GOING WITH HER? MOM!:floorlaugh:

 

[logicalgirl]

I disagree. She's marketable as long as she continues to stay in the newscycle. All this does is reinforce that a little more. Now the news agencies have a reason to follow her around, see what she's up too, she if she's going to violate parole.

MOO

She may be marketable, but not in the "not guilty" first interview kind of a way. Most of us are interested in where she is because we don't want her to be living the high life and getting away completely scott free.

Sure I'll be interested in how/what she is doing/up to from time to time, but it sure won't be clenching my teeth after hearing about some big "rehabilitated" prime time special.

Somehow being a felon, schlepping around with a menial job doing parole for a year doesn't sound nearly so glam and marketable. And surely any big money she makes can be more easily tracked and grabbed for taxes and court expenses. She's going to be just one more down and out ex-con. IMO

 

[Aedrys]

Actually OJ skirted the law many times here in Florida before he was finally nabbed in Las Vegas. We Floridians stood by and watched him testing the law many times before he was finally held accountable. He was totally outta control-Boozing, Drugs,Fights, etc.

Wow, I didn't know that. Well, at least it finally caught up to him in Vegas!

 

[Italy]

I know this isn't the right thread for this question buy can anyone explain why Jose Baez stressed in his closing comments that she was a liar and a ?

The trial really didn't emphasize her being a and it surprised me when he said that.

I almost wonder if he was hearing his wife screaming at him, "She is a liar and a !"

Sorry for the OT - just something else curious.

 

[OneLostGrl]

So, it sounds like you believe it helped you. Do you think it changes others that are convicted for the better? To me, it sounds like they just have to go through the motions.

I'm not gonna sit here and lie.. probation didn't help me.. and it's not gonna "help" her either imo The only thing that helps a criminal change their ways is recognizing your behaviors, admitting them and then changing them. And for people who have made that their way of life even that isn't enough sometimes. I believe behaviors are habit and they become instinct.. in order to successfully "go through the motions" you have to change the way you behave or you are gonna fail.

My probation officer was located at the local police dept, I had a suspended drivers license and the local LE knew it, yet I drove to the police station every month for probation and was busted about 4 times for driving under suspension.. while that is not a "crime" per say, when you are on probation it is a violation of your terms of probation. I couldn't accept the responsibility that I was doing something wrong- every time they pulled me over I got angry at them.. I was like "well, how am I supposed to go to probation if I can't drive there?" like it was their fault :crazy:. You have to change your way of thinking in order to change your way of behaving. You spend your life justifying your bad acts and telling yourself you are the "victim" of an unjust society you are bound to keep re-offending and violating your probation.. you'll be "going through the motions" with your probation officer for a very long time.

 

[erinleigh]

honestly i dont think not having a job will revoke her probation. with this ecomony plus the fact that she is high profile i think that part will be looked over. it all really comes down to her PO. will it be a ball buster or one of the overworked ones who really doesnt care as long as no new crimes are committed? who knows. i just dont see them making a giant fuss over that part. i know people on probation who are unemployed. you can just say you are trying. now the residence part...that will be interesting
these felonies are not going away. that is for sure. neither is the IRS so miss thing needs a plan.

 

[rotterdam]

So what would be a violation of her probation? A traffic ticket? Parking ticket? Driving without a license? Public intoxication? What if a bartender pours one (or ten) too many drinks for her?

There are many many technical violations.

 

[lauriej]

She was in jail. In her own cell. Monitored 24/7 just like all inmates. She couldn't fart without asking first. How could she NOT be a model inmate? All her decisions were made for her. Now she's out, and on probation, forced to make serious decisions with no one watching her every move. She is going to mess up, IMO.

...totally agree on that-----and when she does:

http://www.richardhornsby.com/criminal/probation/violation-of-probation.html

Violation of Probation

"A violation of probation proceeding is much different than being charged with a new crime".
-- Richard Hornsby


Because you have already been sentenced to probation, you have less protection than if you were charged with a new crime. Some examples are:

• No statute of limitations; Can't wait out the VOP,
• No right to a bond while awaiting a hearing,
• No right to jury trial in a violation hearing,
• Hearsay is admissible against you,
• You can be forced to testify against yourself, and
• Guilt does not have to be proved beyond a reasonable doubt.

Penalties for Violating Probation


If you violate your probation a judge can do one of three things:

• Reinstate your Probation,
• Modify your Probation, or
• Revoke your Probation.

Importantly, if a judge revokes your probation, Florida law allows the judge to impose the maximum penalty for the charge you were placed on probation for.

 

[logicalgirl]

Perhaps it would be best to allow her to serve probation in some other state. Do they even have to tell the media what state? Let her serve her probation to the satisfaction of the court, but don't allow it to become a media event. That's the best way this story will drop out of the media quickly. Casey has to serve her one-year probation, but it won't be a media event.

Well, there's one problem with that, the State she wants to move to would have to agree to have her, and that's like agreeing to a whole lot of trouble. Why would they bother?

 

[Omachka]

She was declared indigent. She can't be doing interviews and making money, or that indigent status goes away. Any money she makes is going to be watched like a hawk by the IRS because she owes them. She is not a celebrity, and she is not going to be living high on the hog while on probation.

And how do I put this. Real celebrities doing normal things get attention. Real celebrities being idiots gets attention. Real celebrities doing community service for their probation gets attention because of how they dress and because they don't normally have to suffer consequences like that. People are interested either in the unattainableness of being a celebrity, or seeing celebrities act in stupid ways that lessen their status in the eyes of Joe Public. If they're not unattainable, at least they can be made fun of for doing something stupid and getting caught on film.

Casey is not a real celebrity. She was unattainable and exclusive until now thanks to her money hungry DT, but being infamous doesn't make a person be in the same realm as actual celebrities. I mean shoot, actual celebrities don't even like Casey Anthony. A convicted felon forced to live a normal life on probation is not going to get any attention after a short while. Anyone will be able to get pictures of her if she is seen. There goes exclusive picture deals. Casey is not even interesting as a person. All she does is tell lie after lie. No one is going to be interested in an interview with her, especially now that she is on probation. Her marketability as someone living the high life with exclusive picture deals is over. She can't hide anymore. She can't play games anymore. She's not unattainable or exclusive anymore, and that makes her a lot less interesting to go after. Her shot at making millions of dollars is over.

Casey is going to be boring, so very boring, unless she violates her probation. Only then will she be back in the news.

Very well said, Aedrys. :applause:

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

:floorlaugh: Warren Jeffs might be looking for a new wife!:floorlaugh:

He probably is, but Casey is way too old for his tastes. And Jeffs is probably worrying more about becoming somebody else's wife at the moment. jmo

 

[OneLostGrl]

Getting in touch with Amy H would be one violation...

Many times regardless of your charges part of the probation is you are not allowed to even enter a place of business who's primary function is to serve alcoholic beverages. You can't associate with other known felons, no drinking to excess, no controlled substances other than what's prescribed and monthly drug testing.