Casey's Parents & Lawyers Bungle Public Relations

[Aedrys]

Respectfully Quoted The World According
BBM
Video link removed for space.

I had read this post a few minutes ago, and it was over my head ( ) until I read the SA witness list and saw Cindy, George and Lee. Now, I have come back to see what everyone has to say regarding that issue. Are we saying that George, Cindy and Lee will only be allowed in the court room when it is their turn to testify? What is the process for those on a witness list? TIA.

As far as "public relations" and the issue of George and his "affair"(alleged?), I see both the Cruz(sp?) sisters are also on the list. I missed a few days of WS after the affair was hanging in the media being "unconfirmed"...did the Anthony's(by way of BC)or themselves ever respond to the story of the affair? Sorry for asking for so much instant information. TIA.

...js...

I asked the fabulous AZlawyer that very question in the legal thread...and she told me the good news that the A's won't be present for the other A's testimony - so no Cindy staring daggers into Lee or George or swaying what they say. And they won't be there to see her on the stand. They will be all by themselves with only Casey staring daggers at them, and the SA shredding each of them to pieces.

Personally, I can't wait for that! And you'd think they'd know it's over once they get on the stand. No lying their way out of this one.

As for the affair, I believe Cindy or they both said it didn't happen through Conway...but Cindy's body language in court told us otherwise!

 

[The World According]

I asked the fabulous AZlawyer that very question in the legal thread...and she told me the good news that the A's won't be present for the other A's testimony - so no Cindy staring daggers into Lee or George or swaying what they say. And they won't be there to see her on the stand. They will be all by themselves with only Casey staring daggers at them, and the SA shredding each of them to pieces.

Personally, I can't wait for that! And you'd think they'd know it's over once they get on the stand. No lying their way out of this one.

As for the affair, I believe Cindy or they both said it didn't happen through Conway...but Cindy's body language in court told us otherwise!

Thanks for getting us that answer, and big, huge, Texas sized thanks to AZ lawyer for all of the unbelievable amount of time and enthusiasm and patience she gives us.
I agree with your assessment of Cindy's body language, Eskimos would have shivered ...ooooh, it is coool in here. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7N8pDbmaqE[/ame] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cucdcitGPtc[/ame]
If it weren't for George telling the truth, we may have had a no bill from the grand jury. We sure do have Cindy here at the opposite end of the spectrum, or am I crazy?

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Despite Cindy Anthony’s Image Makeover,Her Body Language Shows Signals of Deception And Denial In Refusing To Identify With Joran Van der Sloot’s Mother
CINDY ANTHONY’S IMAGE MAKEOVER
http://drlillianglassbodylanguagebl...to-identify-with-joran-van-der-sloots-mother/

 

[kaRN]

I was wondering if any of the death threats the A's have received and presumably are still receiving have been investigated by LE or even reported to LE. Seems to me they should have. They reported the stolen damaged gas can after all.
Seriously though, I bet there aren't any recent death threats and that any they do receive come after one of their denial tour float the latest defense theory media appearances. So they need to stop with that....until they can provide links.
Also, regarding the microscope they're under. I've been re-watching all the old interviews and when you see them as a collection, rather than a newsbite every day or so, one thing becomes very apparent. 98.5% of the time, they aren't 'getting Caylees face out there'. They're criticizing LE, searchers, the public, bloggers et al. They go on and on in each interview with delusions of a grandeur they never dreamed of before their grandaughter went missing. Oh yeah, Caylee. The baby who'd have paid the mortgage but paid for tats and bling instead.
Wonder how Lee feels about being accused of incestual molestation. Per the letters he did violate KC not just may have like GA. No mention of him in the latest recount of the hell they live through. Weird. Protecting and defending your son would be really important if given an international venue to do so........You'd think.

Sorry for my attitude. Admitting to the problem is the start though. I have no use for these people and am glad Caylee is free of them.

 

[kaRN]

Despite Cindy Anthony’s Image Makeover,Her Body Language Shows Signals of Deception And Denial In Refusing To Identify With Joran Van der Sloot’s Mother
CINDY ANTHONY’S IMAGE MAKEOVER
http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2010/06/16/cindy-anthony’s-body-language-shows-signals-of-deception-on-gma-and-in-denial-by-refusing-to-identify-with-joran-van-der-sloots-mother/

I can see why she doen't relate to AVDS. Anita has class and understands what Joran needs to do right now and won't alllow his choices to destroy her other son. MO

 

[ynotdivein]

... It is this exact reason that I have come to trust my intuition that Cindy is a narcissist that raised a sociopath. That maybe Cindy is a sociopath herself, being that I feel she is and has sabotaged Casey over and over again. Any cover up being just to save her own butt, the rest has only hurt Casey: not to mention justice for Caylee.

IMHO: Cindy is just as guilty of misleading and not co-operating with LE in the search for Caylee as Casey is: of course IMO they both knew Caylee was dead and there was no need for a search. And, I can see that once Cindy realized that fact(and that it was Casey who did it)she decided to protect herself and say she was supporting and protecting Casey. ...

Very respectfully snipped and bolded by me, and thank you Chiquita for an exquisitely perceptive post. ITA with everything you said but especially the part I bolded above--as a classic narcissist, Cindy has almost no choice here but to stand behind her daughter. To repudiate Casey would be an admission that she raised an abnormal child, and is therefore a bad mother. By "supporting and protecting" Casey, Cindy can psychologically preserve the notion of herself as perfect mother that she evidently wishes outsiders to perceive. And if worst someday comes to worst and she is forced to honestly and factually confront Casey's guilt, Cindy has at the least preserved for herself the psychological defense that she "didn't know" and is therefore not to blame, no matter how tenuous that defense may seem to outsiders.

 

[Aedrys]

Very respectfully snipped and bolded by me, and thank you Chiquita for an exquisitely perceptive post. ITA with everything you said but especially the part I bolded above--as a classic narcissist, Cindy has almost no choice here but to stand behind her daughter. To repudiate Casey would be an admission that she raised an abnormal child, and is therefore a bad mother. By "supporting and protecting" Casey, Cindy can psychologically preserve the notion of herself as perfect mother that she evidently wishes outsiders to perceive. And if worst someday comes to worst and she is forced to honestly and factually confront Casey's guilt, Cindy has at the least preserved for herself the psychological defense that she "didn't know" and is therefore not to blame, no matter how tenuous that defense may seem to outsiders.

You are absolutely right! And the sad part is, she's totally willing to sacrifice Caylee to stand by Casey and keep up her good mother facade. That's why Caylee is expendable. She doesn't need Caylee to look like a good mother, but she needs to stand by Casey, in her mind, to still be that good mother. Otherwise, she's not a good mother, and she just can't live with that. She can't stand to be anything but the best mother ever.

So poor Caylee gets pushed away and buried because after all, Casey was Caylee's mother of the year. Cindy has to keep up with the belief that Casey was a good mother to make herself a good mother. Therefore Caylee gets lost in all of this because it's not Caylee at stake anymore, it's Cindy and her parenting skills. Caylee was only a bone of contention between Cindy and Casey when she was alive, only useful for Cindy then. Dead, she's no more use to Cindy. It's only Casey and Cindy's denial that's left, and Cindy will be in that denial until the day she dies. She will fight for Casey with every bone left in her body because she has to, because that's what a good mother does. She has wrapped her up self worth in Casey, and that's why she fights for her and stays in denial - not for Casey, but for herself.

And that's why there's moments of missing Caylee because I think deep down inside she does, but then those moments pass, and it's all too soon about how great Casey is and how hard things are for Cindy. The woman is so selfish that she can't help but bring it back to her and what she's going through rather than talk more about the loss of an innocent and special child.

Well, we will never forget Caylee and what happened to her, and neither will LE and SA. CAYLEE is what is most important to all of us, not Casey, and not you, Cindy. You want Casey, you can have her. We'd take Caylee over her anyday of the week, hands down. And the more you use Casey to make yourself look like the perfect mother, the more we see what imperfect and dysfunctional mother you really are, Cindy.

Conway really needs to put his foot down and not let them, especially Cindy, get on air anymore. I can't believe he let them do this. Did you watch, Conway? Did you see how pathetic and in denial they are? Please keep them off the air. For once, don't just be their parroting puppet. For once do something in their best interest!

 

[ZsaZsa]

This whole case from day one has been about Cindy, she is indirectly the cause of Caylee's death, but she is the only one who doesn't see it. Casey loathed her and treated her with contempt ( still does) and the battle over Caylee was the final and most malicious power struggle between them...
I see it as a very malignant arrogance, nothing must be allowed to reflect badly on her, or she will lash out- lying, blaming innocent people, there is no limit...
Their appearances on these talk shows is laughable, do they honestly think anyone with an ounce of common sense can't figure them out?
The only time I have a trace of sympathy for Casey is if I try to imagine living with Cindy. It would be suffocating..

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Seems to me, consciousness of guilt shines through!

The A's can play semantics all they like, the truth is in the evidence. It's as if they are truly sabotaging the defense of ICA while trying to sugar coat it to the world. I just feel they read all the discovery documents (for CA was prepared for her Mogan depo) and try to twist "junk science" around and demean it for it's not proof positive. Since ICA hasn't confessed, somehow they equate their daughter being a liar doesn't make her a murderer! CA through BC has stated, they don't know how Caylee died and they just want the truth. Seems they don't want the "real" truth only the truth they choose to sputter..JMHO

ICA and her team have stated many times, they weren't allowed to be present at the crime scene at Suburban. When is a defendant, or their defense team ever present at a crime scene when CSI is gathering evidence?

When LP and his team pulled a bag of bones out of the Little Econ River, ICA giggled and said, that wasn't her child! She shrugged it off...

The video of ICA when "remains of a small child were found at Suburban", clearly shows consciousness of guilt (which is why, IMO it was supressed for the time being), for she had a reaction, knew things only the person who dumped Caylee there would have known, before it became public knowledge. This is in her letter with RA...she told of a blanket found with Caylee's remains and a black garbage bag...at that point no one knew that is was positively Caylee (although everyone felt is was)...Caylee wasn't positively ID'd until one week later but ICA knew things the public didn't, only LE knew.

So, if those two little clues don't shake the A's or give them that "awakening" I don't know what will....:banghead:


http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/cops-casey-anthony-told-inmate-caylees-remains/story?id=10315519


Justice for Caylee

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Anthony, Cindy’s daughter, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

WFTV-Channel 9’s Kathi Belich said, “The defense is trying to convince Chief Judge Belvin Perry that Cindy really wasn’t excited so it’s not really legally an excited utterance – that it’s merely hearsay, which is inadmissible.”


Attorney Mason told Belich that Cindy’s emotional 911 call ”was contrived and planned.”

Belich said the defense “completely reversed itself” on whether Texas EquuSearch volunteers in summer 2008 searched the woods where Caylee’s remains were found in December of that year. The defense is “now agreeing with investigators that the area was not searched because it was underwater,” Belich said.

Still, the defense is challenging prosecution experts’ contention that Casey Anthony put Caylee’s body in the woods in June 2008, Belich explained.

“What do you have that shows she was not there in June? That’s when Caylee disappeared,” Belich asked Mason.

“We don’t know when she disappeared,” Mason said.

WOFL-Channel 35’s Holly Bristow turned to the Texas EquuSearch volunteers’ search in the summer two years ago. At the hearing next month, the defense will seek a list of every volunteer who searched for Caylee, Bristow reported.

“The public has been made to believe that these people searched the exact area where the body was, or tried to and couldn’t,” Mason said. “The fact is they didn’t try to, and they didn’t. They weren’t there. And it was impassable at the time.”

Mason explained that point is central to the defense’s theory of establishing a reasonable doubt that Casey couldn’t have put the body there.

WFTV’s Belich also reported that the defense is “backing off its claim that meter reader Roy Kronk, who found Caylee’s remains, should be a suspect in Caylee’s murder because of wild accusations that Kronk’s exes made against him.”
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/en...ls-cindys-911-call-contrived-and-planned.html


Seems they have backed themselves into a wall...back to the drawing board, eh...who will now be thrown under that bus! JMHO

 

[LinasK]

Seems to me, consciousness of guilt shines through!

The A's can play semantics all they like, the truth is in the evidence. It's as if they are truly sabotaging the defense of ICA while trying to sugar coat it to the world. I just feel they read all the discovery documents (for CA was prepared for her Mogan depo) and try to twist "junk science" around and demean it for it's not proof positive. Since ICA hasn't confessed, somehow they equate their daughter being a liar doesn't make her a murderer! CA through BC has stated, they don't know how Caylee died and they just want the truth. Seems they don't want the "real" truth only the truth they choose to sputter..JMHO

ICA and her team have stated many times, they weren't allowed to be present at the crime scene at Suburban. When is a defendant, or their defense team ever present at a crime scene when CSI is gathering evidence?

When LP and his team pulled a bag of bones out of the Little Econ River, ICA giggled and said, that wasn't her child! She shrugged it off...

The video of ICA when "remains of a small child were found at Suburban", clearly shows consciousness of guilt (which is why, IMO it was supressed for the time being), for she had a reaction, knew things only the person who dumped Caylee there would have known, before it became public knowledge. This is in her letter with RA...she told of a blanket found with Caylee's remains and a black garbage bag...at that point no one knew that is was positively Caylee (although everyone felt is was)...Caylee wasn't positively ID'd until one week later but ICA knew things the public didn't, only LE knew.

So, if those two little clues don't shake the A's or give them that "awakening" I don't know what will....:banghead:


http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/cops-casey-anthony-told-inmate-caylees-remains/story?id=10315519


Justice for Caylee

This to me says it all!:clap::clap:

 

[Patriciao]

Can you only imagine the additional lies that Casey has fed Jose? The secret reasons as to why Casey is not guilty for example? I think Cheny Mason was right when he said this would be fun when he joined the legal team. He realizes the odds are stacked against them in getting a Not Guilty verdict but what fun it would be to pull out all the stops and try to successfully defend the most bizarre case of the century. Cheney has nothing to lose even if he loses. Jose has already damaged his reputation, most by his own actions. What else can he lose?

 

[chefmom]

Can you only imagine the additional lies that Casey has fed Jose? The secret reasons as to why Casey is not guilty for example? I think Cheny Mason was right when he said this would be fun when he joined the legal team. He realizes the odds are stacked against them in getting a Not Guilty verdict but what fun it would be to pull out all the stops and try to successfully defend the most bizarre case of the century. Cheney has nothing to lose even if he loses. Jose has already damaged his reputation, most by his own actions. What else can he lose?

BBM

I'm hoping for his license to practice law. It is one thing to file ridiculous motions. I let that slide based on the fact that he has to try anything and everything in order to win for his client. But, to blatantly disregard rules in order to smuggle contraband and letters in and out of the jail for his client does not need to go unanswered. For all we know, he could have been transporting the whereabouts of the murder weapon for disposal, location of the body for moving, any number of things that are precisely the reason that these rules are in place. JMO

 

[doogiesgirl]

BBM

I'm hoping for his license to practice law. It is one thing to file ridiculous motions. I let that slide based on the fact that he has to try anything and everything in order to win for his client. But, to blatantly disregard rules in order to smuggle contraband and letters in and out of the jail for his client does not need to go unanswered. For all we know, he could have been transporting the whereabouts of the murder weapon for disposal, location of the body for moving, any number of things that are precisely the reason that these rules are in place. JMO

And I just have to add to your wonderful post.....JB's not keeping track of his billable hours for KC's cases????? WTH?? I would think this would be the most egregious of all his mistakes, and one the FLA Bar would certainly be concerned with. I don't know the rules that lawyers must abide by but if I were a current (or past) client I'd be checking to see if I was overcharged. I wonder if down the road, KC won't hit him with a law suit regarding mismanagement of her funds?? Somehow....I can see it. And it makes me smile.

MOO

 

[ZsaZsa]

And I just have to add to your wonderful post.....JB's not keeping track of his billable hours for KC's cases????? WTH?? I would think this would be the most egregious of all his mistakes, and one the FLA Bar would certainly be concerned with. I don't know the rules that lawyers must abide by but if I were a current (or past) client I'd be checking to see if I was overcharged. I wonder if down the road, KC won't hit him with a law suit regarding mismanagement of her funds?? Somehow....I can see it. And it makes me smile.

MOO

He has a unique way of charging his client- he checks to see how much money she has left, and bills her that amount..

 

[Purple Iris]

And I just have to add to your wonderful post.....JB's not keeping track of his billable hours for KC's cases????? WTH?? I would think this would be the most egregious of all his mistakes, and one the FLA Bar would certainly be concerned with. I don't know the rules that lawyers must abide by but if I were a current (or past) client I'd be checking to see if I was overcharged. I wonder if down the road, KC won't hit him with a law suit regarding mismanagement of her funds?? Somehow....I can see it. And it makes me smile.

MOO

Oh, I think you can take it to the bank that this will be one of the first things that she will get going once she is convicted, and has submitted her automatic appeals info.

 

[jon_burrows]

:laugh:

He has a unique way of charging his client- he checks to see how much money she has left, and bills her that amount..

As funny as that sounds, I think you're right.

IMO

 

[doogiesgirl]

He has a unique way of charging his client- he checks to see how much money she has left, and bills her that amount..

Funny! and TRUE!!

moo

 

[LambChop]

Okay, this is a bit off topic but it really irks me. When JB was under oath at a hearing he answered KC contracted with him on June 16th. Everyone said he meant to say July 16th but there is a lot of rumbling about how fast he showed up to sign on as her attorney. What if KC spoke to JB prior to July 16th? He was so willing to jump on her case and get her out on bail. When she did get out what did she do....JB had her all set up to sell her babies pictures to pay her attorney fees. This is really HINKY. Big, big hinkyness here. Something is just not right. He knew she had no money but took the case anyway. Interesting to see what the connection is between LP and JB prior to KC being arrested. Because no one from Florida was willing to post her bond and frankly if JB could not get her out, even just a few days, he was penniless as far as this case goes. LP, ABC, JB all responsible for turning this into the circus it is today. And JB blames the media....he loves it. jmo

 

[Gnatcatcher]

In one of the more recent threads, somebody had posted a whole bunch of youtube videos (i think in response to an interview with Cindy that I was looking for), and in that bunch was one video where Jose said "I was just retained today so I don't know ...". I have to find that and see what the date was on that interview.