Caylee Anthony 2 year old General Discussion #47

[lillyfrog]

Why were they deleted?

My guess is the family realized that they were viewable publicly and there were some actual birth pics ...so they deleted them to protect Caseys privacy

 

[miss lisa]

This is an interesting theory...what if Caylee's father IS George? She might have given her away to save her from g'pa, and not want to tell what happened because she doesn't want her parents to know what she did with her.

There HAVE been women who have been willing to do jail time by not handing over a child to an abusive parent.

I realize this is a grandparent, not a parent, and all Casey would have to do is just turn George into LE, but maybe CAsey is just too embarrassed to tell anyone that George abused her. This would explain why she got so indignant on the phone when Cindy said she didn't know what Casey's involvement was.

I still think Casey accidently killed Caylee...but if she didn't, this is the only situation that makes sense to me.

I really believe that Casey doesn't know who the daddy is. My opinion only.

I think that George is way too wimpy to be the one that Casey is afraid of and the family secret.

I'd be willing to bet the family secret is simply CASEY. Casey's actions. Her habitual lying. The enabling of the family. They (including Lee) have spent years covering for her craziness. Always making light of her little white lies. No one calls her on anything because they know that there would be he!! to pay (Casey learned this from the best).

 

[nnglas]

Anybody know where a tape/video/transcript of the bail hearing can be found?

 

[mollymalone]

Fox had another report on the case this morning and they "unveiled" "new" photos of Casey partying. The pix were of Casey and another girl, they were very close to each other, perhaps dancing.

Fox showed the clip of Grandpa saying the photos were of Casey when she was pregnant with Casey, with their grandaughter, and his facial expressions, the smiles were disturbing. The reporter commented "does he think that makes his daughter look somehow better? That she was partying while pregnant." The journalist went on to say that they had confirmed that "Tony" was in the photos, that she had met him a few months ago and that the photos were taken recently.

 

[QuickAttack]

I think I agree with the first poster. When my daughter was young, my friends, who also had young children, and I had parties for the adutls, or even for our kids who were too young to appreciate what their b-day meant. We all brought our kids and had kid friendly food and toys. The adults drank alcohol. None of us got stinking drunk and neglected our kids. And we all made sure no todlers could get into the alcohol.

I don't know if it's strange, but now that our kids are teens, we hardly ever drink alcohol when we get together, even if our kids aren't there. Either we're getting too old to really party, or we don't want our kids to smell beer on us and think it's okay to drink! I know both apply to me, but I think I worry about the latter.

Hear, hear. I know exactly how you feel. I've got a 14 year old. Same thing with you...I don't drink it because I don't really want to, but I don't want him to think it's ok because I do.

 

[Blink34]

Can't help but feeling the ONLY advice Baez has given her is to run out the time clock.....

refuse to incriminate yourself with LE

We'll say you want to talk to the FBI

Then we'll put out the story that the TRUTH is just so dangerous that you can't possibly reveal it because that would harm your child.

It's an endless circle game.....

Until the forensics come back & it's checkmate.....

Unfortunately I think you are correct.

 

[FLbeachdawg]

Lol, we can assume channel 6 is reading here.

http://www.local6.com/news/17084757/detail.html

(snip)
New Photos Found



Also, new photos showing Caylee as a baby in the arms of her mother were found Sunday.

The pictures show Anthony as a new mother in the hospital after giving birth and Caylee's first birthday party in August of 2006.

Another photo shows Caylee playing in the back yard with her mother.

when I look at these photos, I have a REALLY hard time believing that Casey hurt that baby. I seriously think she is involved in something WAY deeper and she knows if she talks she will go down for that. I believe there could have been another body in the trunk and God knows what else. But I know that the people on here have found some interesting things about people she associated with. She just acts like she knows Caylee is ok and knows that they aren't goin to find any evidence of her death and that's why she's so confident. That just blows my mind. She's way too confident and cool headed. Is she detached emotionally from Caylee...yes...or so it seems,but did she kill her in cold blood...I still can't say I buy that yet. Was Casey involved in something really huge and illegal that involved a lot of people...it is VERY possible. I do also think she is enjoying the pain Cindy is in over this missing baby. She used Caylee as a weapon against Cindy and that's obvious. I just think this case is unlike the others we have seen...and the whole "CSI" type of theories are not so unlikely in this case. I think the best one I have heard is that she is with the biological fathers family who has a Zenaida relative OR that Zenaida was an illegal who Casey owed lots of money too....and all her lies, I think she could just be covering her own butt to keep her from getting in trouble from something else really bad she was involved in. JMO...

 

[lillyfrog]

Fox had another report on the case this morning and they "unveiled" "new" photos of Casey partying. The pix were of Casey and another girl, they were very close to each other, perhaps dancing.

Fox showed the clip of Grandpa saying the photos were of Casey when she was pregnant with Casey, with their grandaughter, and his facial expressions, the smiles were disturbing. The reporter commented "does he think that makes his daughter look somehow better? That she was partying while pregnant." The journalist went on to say that they had confirmed that "Tony" was in the photos, that she had met him a few months ago and that the photos were taken recently.

IIRC George referred to one particular picture and said that one was from when she was pregnant 3 years ago.

But he did try to lead public to believe that none of the photos taken were since Caylee has been missing.. Does he think we are stupid?

 

[Vegas Bride]

This is an interesting theory...what if Caylee's father IS George? She might have given her away to save her from g'pa, and not want to tell what happened because she doesn't want her parents to know what she did with her.

There HAVE been women who have been willing to do jail time by not handing over a child to an abusive parent.

I realize this is a grandparent, not a parent, and all Casey would have to do is just turn George into LE, but maybe CAsey is just too embarrassed to tell anyone that George abused her. This would explain why she got so indignant on the phone when Cindy said she didn't know what Casey's involvement was.

I still think Casey accidently killed Caylee...but if she didn't, this is the only situation that makes sense to me.

IMO if Casey cared enough to protect Caylee from an abuser, she would have also been doing things from the time this little girl was born to try and give her the best life possible. By now Casey would have gotten her act together and gotten her high school diploma, without that what chance did she really have of getting a job? After that she would have been working towards taking a class, something so she could better provide for her child. In the last almost 3 years, do we know of anything Casey has done to work towards a goal for her and Caylee's future or did she simply think that by hanging out in the clubs one day her prince was going to show up and rescue her?

VB

 

[blondietx]

IIRC George referred to one particular picture and said that one was from when she was pregnant 3 years ago.

But he did try to lead public to believe that none of the photos taken were since Caylee has been missing.. Does he think we are stupid?

Apparently. Or at least he's hoping we are!

 

[Elley Mae]

The pic George was referring to is the ONE that Casey is in a red shirt with her hands in front of her breast

 

[Blink34]

In regards to the house search. IIRC, and I would have to do some deep searching to back this up, LE did enter the house and do what they are allowed to do without a search warrant. I think it was the dogs that were not brought into the house.

Yes, the house search was concentual by the Anthony's..
As they were cadaver dogs, which I understand downwind they can hit as far as a mile, I am guessing they were not brought into the house because they did not "hit" to need to go inside, that's only based on my limited knowledge.

 

[QuickAttack]

I think a combination of having a pretty good idea what went down and the fact their daughter could face the death penalty is their driving force right now. I think it's a bigger force than the fact they are in denial.

Cindy already said as much:

"I don't want to lose another one."

(Said to Rozzie Franco by Cindy sometime this past Saturday.)

 

[wallflower67]

My guess is the family realized that they were viewable publicly and there were some actual birth pics ...so they deleted them to protect Caseys privacy

Okay, thanks for the explanation!

 

[Lanie]

Fox had another report on the case this morning and they "unveiled" "new" photos of Casey partying. The pix were of Casey and another girl, they were very close to each other, perhaps dancing.

Fox showed the clip of Grandpa saying the photos were of Casey when she was pregnant with Casey, with their grandaughter, and his facial expressions, the smiles were disturbing. The reporter commented "does he think that makes his daughter look somehow better? That she was partying while pregnant." The journalist went on to say that they had confirmed that "Tony" was in the photos, that she had met him a few months ago and that the photos were taken recently.

I have bit my tongue through several forums, but I just can't do it anymore, and Molly, this is not directed at you at all. I just have visions dancing in my head of ten pages piling up discussing how 'that horrible Casey was partying hard while she was pregnant'.

I am not a mod or anything, just a person who is having a very hard time keeping up, and I am asking, PLEASE, people, read this quoted post in it's ENTIRETY before making 100 posts with misinformation, causing another 100 posts correcting the misinformation.
Sorry if I'm coming across as rude or anything, I'm just asking for a little mercy. I'm already so behind at my job
Lanie

 

[nnglas]

So, are we safe to assume that the Zenny theory is bogus and some unknown person or persons have Caylee. I haven't seen the family spouting the Zenny theory in a while.

 

[wallflower67]

I really believe that Casey doesn't know who the daddy is. My opinion only.

I think that George is way too wimpy to be the one that Casey is afraid of and the family secret.

I'd be willing to bet the family secret is simply CASEY. Casey's actions. Her habitual lying. The enabling of the family. They (including Lee) have spent years covering for her craziness. Always making light of her little white lies. No one calls her on anything because they know that there would be he!! to pay (Casey learned this from the best).

I have to agree that she probably just doesn't know who the father is. I'm just entertaining other thoughts. The newbie's poster's theory was the only one that got me thinking Casey might have a good reason for what she's doing.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I agree. I don't think the attorney's comments necessarily mean that Casey did not give him a letter. In attorney speak, that's not what he said.

How could, "The letter does not exist." not mean what he said? Please fill me in on that one. Even in "lawyer speak", it is pretty clear he is saying there is no letter. Now, if he had said, "I have not seen such a letter."...this could apply. If it were placed in an envelope and he had not seen the actual letter.

 

[ElizaAvalon]

I have bit my tongue through several forums, but I just can't do it anymore, and Molly, this is not directed at you at all. I just have visions dancing in my head of ten pages piling up discussing how 'that horrible Casey was partying hard while she was pregnant'.

I am not a mod or anything, just a person who is having a very hard time keeping up, and I am asking, PLEASE, people, read this quoted post in it's ENTIRETY before making 100 posts with misinformation, causing another 100 posts correcting the misinformation.
Sorry if I'm coming across as rude or anything, I'm just asking for a little mercy. I'm already so behind at my job
Lanie

No worries, Lanie. Tony is in those photos. So they can't be from 3 years ago, no matter what any parent-in-denial says.

 

[QuickAttack]

when I look at these photos, I have a REALLY hard time believing that Casey hurt that baby. I seriously think she is involved in something WAY deeper and she knows if she talks she will go down for that. I believe there could have been another body in the trunk and God knows what else. But I know that the people on here have found some interesting things about people she associated with. She just acts like she knows Caylee is ok and knows that they aren't goin to find any evidence of her death and that's why she's so confident. That just blows my mind. She's way too confident and cool headed. Is she detached emotionally from Caylee...yes...or so it seems,but did she kill her in cold blood...I still can't say I buy that yet. Was Casey involved in something really huge and illegal that involved a lot of people...it is VERY possible. I do also think she is enjoying the pain Cindy is in over this missing baby. She used Caylee as a weapon against Cindy and that's obvious. I just think this case is unlike the others we have seen...and the whole "CSI" type of theories are not so unlikely in this case. I think the best one I have heard is that she is with the biological fathers family who has a Zenaida relative OR that Zenaida was an illegal who Casey owed lots of money too....and all her lies, I think she could just be covering her own butt to keep her from getting in trouble from something else really bad she was involved in. JMO...

I tend to favor Occam's Razor.

Baby missing. Cadaver dogs hit on the trunk. Photos of mom out partying and not looking for baby. Mom sitting in jail, refusing to cooperate with authorities.

It all adds up to "dead baby" to me. Because that's the straightest line through all the evidence.