Cleaning crew member shot and killed on porch after arriving at the wrong house

  • #281
There was one on WS in the last couple of years where a young lad went to the wrong house number by mistake and was shot through the front door when he rang the bell. I’m sorry I don’t recall his name. The shooter was an angry older man who tried to claim he feared for his life, when the lad had done nothing.

ETA : I think it was this case - Andrew Lester dies awaiting sentencing for shooting teen Ralph Yarl
I'm kinda glad AL is gone and RY never has to come face to face with him again.
The public's outrage was justified and people opened their wallets for RY and millions flowed out sending RY into the future with one less issue while trying to heal physically, emotionally and spiritually.
He is a fine young man who represents the best of his generation.
imo
 
  • #282
I would bet the “safe room” will be huge at trial. It would not be a room for tornados, as it was upstairs. To have a safe room, something must have happened to have one installed. Unless the mere presence of having his gun stored in that room made it “safe” to him. Yes, this will be a big part of the prosecutors case.

Defense atty Guy Relford is the “gun guy” on WIBC conservative radio. Teaches firearm safety. Used to be in house counsel for years and litigated then, but never with a law firm. Curious if he will take this to trial.
I found this statement from Relford.

Andersen's attorney, Guy Relford, who specializes in the Second Amendment, doesn't agree. In a statement posted online, Relford said his client "had every reason to believe his actions were absolutely necessary and fully justified at the time."

Relford said he is "disappointed" in the prosecutor's decision to file charges against his client and "[looks] forward to proving in court that his actions were fully justified by the 'castle doctrine' provision of Indiana's self-defense law."
 
  • #283
From WTRV reporter Rachael Wilkerson Facebook page:
Voluntary Manslaughter
Curt Andersen of Whitestown, Indiana has been charged with voluntary manslaughter for the death of Maria Florinda Rios Perez de Velasquez

A probable cause affidavit states that Maria and her husband were hired by Ryan Homes to clean a model home further down in the neighborhood.

Andersen said he did not announce anything before shooting through the door from the top of the stairwell. He said he could see and hear people outside of his door. He described the crew as aggressively trying to get inside.

He called 911 after the shooting.

INTERVIEW notes below from the PC:

Curt stated he and his wife Yoshie have lived in this home, 4283 Maize
Lane, together for 4 years.
• Curt stated he and Yoshie sleep on a futon in the loft area on the 2nd floor
of the residence. The loft area has a window on the east wall of the room.
Curt said he sleeps on the side closest to the stairwell which leads directly
down to the first floor and the front door and Yoshie sleeps on the other
side of the futon.
• Curt said he and Yoshie are night owls and normally go to bed at 2am or
3am most nights. Curt said they went to bed on the morning of this
incident, November 5, 2025, at approximately 2:00-3:00am or so.
• Curt stated that he woke up because he had heard something but wasn’t
sure, since he was still waking up what exactly he was hearing. Curt said
he was thinking to himself, “I have only been to sleep like 3-3 ½ hours.”
• Curt said he then stood up and heard a commotion at the door. Curt said at
first it was subtle, but the commotion intensified and he heard what
appeared to be some type of keys, tools, or instrument being used on the
front door of the residence.
• Curt then said he reached over to grab his glasses which were hanging on
the charging cord plugged into the wall to the rear of the futon.
• Curt said that this commotion scared him because he realized this
commotion was not his imagination and that someone was trying to get
into the front door.
• Curt said he then went toward the top of the stairwell where he was at the
landing of the stairwell looking down toward the front door. (The
stairwell of 4283 Maize Lane goes straight down to the front door, and the
front door can be seen from the top of the stairwell as well as to the side
where a landing is located) Curt said he could see two individuals outside
the front door through the top and side windows at the front door. Curt
said when he saw these individuals, he said, “oh no, this is happening and
they are going to get in.”
• Curt said to himself, “what am I going to do? It’s not going away and I
have to do something now.” Curt mentioned previously to reporting
Detective that he had thought out about how to plan for someone breaking
into his home and where to keep him and his wife safe. Curt said that he
had watched videos before and that at this moment he didn’t want any part
of this or to hurt anyone.
• Curt stated he then went to what he called his “safe room” which was also
his music room. (room directly to the rear of the futon, which would have
been the southeast corner room of the second floor of the residence).
• Curt stated he then went straight to the top of his music stand in the corner
of the room and grabbed his keys to his Pelican case which contained his
Glock 48 9mm handgun. Curt said he had purchased this handgun in
September of this year when he traded in his Sig handgun he had since
2023. Curt said the Sig handgun was the first gun he had owned and that
he bought it for protection of his home but never carried it outside his
home. When asked during the interview, Curt said he has never shot either
of these handguns when he owned them, not even at a range. Curt said the
only time he shot a gun before was when he worked for the Navy. Curt
said that he was a Psychiatric RN in the Navy and worked for the Navy
20+ years.
• Curt continued and stated he went to his Pelican case containing the Glock
48 handgun (located on the floor right to the left of the door in the
“safe/music room.”
• As Curt was opening the case (which had two small padlocks on it) he said
he was hearing the commotion at the front door of the residence get more
and more aggressive. Curt stated that hearing this terrified him that they
were going to beat him before he returned, gain entry to his home, and that
his wife was still out in the loft.
CASE NUMBER: 06D01-2511-F2-002403 FILED: 11/16/2025
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• Curt explained that he had to put the gun together by loading the magazine
as the gun is stored unloaded. Curt said he loaded the magazine into the
handgun and racked the slide, but it slipped and had to re-rack the slide to
chamber a round.
• After Curt loaded the weapon, he said he proceeded out of the safe room
toward the top of the stairwell. Curt stated as he was moving toward the
top of the stairwell, he told his wife Yoshie (who was still in the loft area)
to get in the safe room. Curt said as he approached the top of the stairwell,
he could hear and see that the individuals outside were still trying to get
into his home. Curt said he was positioned slightly off to the side of the
stairwell at the top and could see two individuals from the same windows
of the front door. Curt described the individuals were “thrusting” at the
front door to get in with what he described as getting more and more
aggressive.
• Curt referred to the moment the shot was fired as “the incident” and not as
firing a shot. (Yoshie states in her interview with Det. Thomas and Det.
McClosky that at this moment Curt fired a shot toward the front door of
the residence). Curt confirmed that the front door did not open prior to
“the incident” occurring.
• Reporting Detective asked Curt how long it was after he retrieved his gun
and was at the top of the stairs until the time he fired the round and he said
it was about 10-15 seconds.
• When asked, Curt said he didn’t announce himself or say anything to the
two individuals prior to firing the round.
• Lt. Minton stated to Curt, “I’m assuming you fired one round toward the
door?” To which Curt nodded his head yes.
• When asked after he fired the round, did he hear anything or did the
commotion stop, Curt responded that he heard a man crying out and
weeping. Curt said that he didn’t know what he was hearing and if maybe
he just scared them or something.
• Curt stated after “the incident” happened (Curt’s verbiage of the shot
occurring) he told Yoshie to call 911. Curt said he stayed at the top of the
stairs and Yoshie grabbed her phone, which was in the front southwest
corner room of the 2nd floor and dialed 911. Curt said that Yoshie came
toward him and heard the dispatcher asking for the address and Yoshie
handed him the phone. Curt told the dispatcher his address and said
“please come, please come, please come, they are trying to get in.” Curt
said he was holding the firearm in his right hand and the phone in his left
hand. He said he did not know what to do with the gun.
CASE NUMBER: 06D01-2511-F2-002403 FILED: 11/16/2025
9
• Curt was asked about how long it was from the time he was awakened by
the sound at the door until the shot was fired, and he replied that it was
quick but wasn’t sure exactly how long.
• During the interview, Curt drew the layout of the stairwell, front door, the
loft and the rooms on the second floor.
• While on the phone with the 911 dispatcher, Curt stated that the dispatcher
told him that the police had arrived. Curt advised reporting Detective that
while she told him that, he told the dispatcher he still couldn’t see the
police at this time and said he was still scared of the individuals on the
porch.
• While on the phone with 911, Curt said the dispatcher told him that he
needed to put the gun down, so Curt put it back on the “spongy stuff” on
the pelican gun case.
• Curt said he wouldn’t come downstairs because he still saw the
individuals outside and was still afraid that they might come in. Curt said
he saw a male on the phone and didn’t know who he might be calling (this
would have been when Mauricio, husband of victim, was calling 911).
• Curt said that the dispatcher told him there were multiple officers on scene
and after some time, Curt said he went to the southwest corner room on
the second floor and peeked out the window. This is when he said he saw
an officer outside the front with his gun drawn. He looked further out and
saw all the police presence.
• Curt said the dispatcher said he and his wife needed to come down the
stairs with your hands up. Curt told the dispatcher that he was still scared
of the individuals on the porch and that he wanted them off the porch to
feel safe to come down.
• After some time, Curt said he and his wife started to come down the stairs
per the instructions from the dispatcher. Curt said he and his wife
proceeded down the stairs with their hands up.
• As they got to the bottom of the stairs, Curt said he saw an officer running
across the street in the direction of the back of the house and a large police
presence, so he felt more comfortable and knew they were going to be ok.
• Curt said he told the dispatcher they were coming to the back of the house
now. Curt put the phone down on the kitchen table.
• Curt said they exited the house through the back sliding door per
instructions and were called back to the street where he and Yoshie were
detained by law enforcement officers.
• Curt told detectives that from the time he awoke to the noise to the “the
incident” occurring was over a minute.
CASE NUMBER: 06D01-2511-F2-002403 FILED: 11/16/2025
10
• After gathering the facts from Curt, he was told of the outcome of his fired
round and that the person that was shot was a female and part of a
cleaning crew with her husband who had mistakenly went to the wrong
address.
• Curt became upset and immediately put his head down on the table.
• After some time, Curt said he didn’t mean for anything to happen to
anybody.
• Reporting Detective asked Curt if he gave consent to search his phone.
Reporting Detective read Curt his Pirtle Warning from a Consent to Search
Form and he consented to the search of his phone. Curt signed the form.
Curt’s iPhone 16 was forensically extracted by the WMPD Cyber Lab.
 
  • #284
I believe this is the suspect. He just renewed his Indiana Registered Nurse license. No disciplinary action on it.

 
  • #285
From WTRV reporter Rachael Wilkerson Facebook page:
Voluntary Manslaughter
Curt Andersen of Whitestown, Indiana has been charged with voluntary manslaughter for the death of Maria Florinda Rios Perez de Velasquez

A probable cause affidavit states that Maria and her husband were hired by Ryan Homes to clean a model home further down in the neighborhood.

Andersen said he did not announce anything before shooting through the door from the top of the stairwell. He said he could see and hear people outside of his door. He described the crew as aggressively trying to get inside.

He called 911 after the shooting.

INTERVIEW notes below from the PC:

Curt stated he and his wife Yoshie have lived in this home, 4283 Maize
Lane, together for 4 years.
• Curt stated he and Yoshie sleep on a futon in the loft area on the 2nd floor
of the residence. The loft area has a window on the east wall of the room.
Curt said he sleeps on the side closest to the stairwell which leads directly
down to the first floor and the front door and Yoshie sleeps on the other
side of the futon.
• Curt said he and Yoshie are night owls and normally go to bed at 2am or
3am most nights. Curt said they went to bed on the morning of this
incident, November 5, 2025, at approximately 2:00-3:00am or so.
• Curt stated that he woke up because he had heard something but wasn’t
sure, since he was still waking up what exactly he was hearing. Curt said
he was thinking to himself, “I have only been to sleep like 3-3 ½ hours.”
• Curt said he then stood up and heard a commotion at the door. Curt said at
first it was subtle, but the commotion intensified and he heard what
appeared to be some type of keys, tools, or instrument being used on the
front door of the residence.
• Curt then said he reached over to grab his glasses which were hanging on
the charging cord plugged into the wall to the rear of the futon.
• Curt said that this commotion scared him because he realized this
commotion was not his imagination and that someone was trying to get
into the front door.
• Curt said he then went toward the top of the stairwell where he was at the
landing of the stairwell looking down toward the front door. (The
stairwell of 4283 Maize Lane goes straight down to the front door, and the
front door can be seen from the top of the stairwell as well as to the side
where a landing is located) Curt said he could see two individuals outside
the front door through the top and side windows at the front door. Curt
said when he saw these individuals, he said, “oh no, this is happening and
they are going to get in.”
• Curt said to himself, “what am I going to do? It’s not going away and I
have to do something now.” Curt mentioned previously to reporting
Detective that he had thought out about how to plan for someone breaking
into his home and where to keep him and his wife safe. Curt said that he
had watched videos before and that at this moment he didn’t want any part
of this or to hurt anyone.
• Curt stated he then went to what he called his “safe room” which was also
his music room. (room directly to the rear of the futon, which would have
been the southeast corner room of the second floor of the residence).
• Curt stated he then went straight to the top of his music stand in the corner
of the room and grabbed his keys to his Pelican case which contained his
Glock 48 9mm handgun. Curt said he had purchased this handgun in
September of this year when he traded in his Sig handgun he had since
2023. Curt said the Sig handgun was the first gun he had owned and that
he bought it for protection of his home but never carried it outside his
home. When asked during the interview, Curt said he has never shot either
of these handguns when he owned them, not even at a range. Curt said the
only time he shot a gun before was when he worked for the Navy. Curt
said that he was a Psychiatric RN in the Navy and worked for the Navy
20+ years.
• Curt continued and stated he went to his Pelican case containing the Glock
48 handgun (located on the floor right to the left of the door in the
“safe/music room.”
• As Curt was opening the case (which had two small padlocks on it) he said
he was hearing the commotion at the front door of the residence get more
and more aggressive. Curt stated that hearing this terrified him that they
were going to beat him before he returned, gain entry to his home, and that
his wife was still out in the loft.
CASE NUMBER: 06D01-2511-F2-002403 FILED: 11/16/2025
8
• Curt explained that he had to put the gun together by loading the magazine
as the gun is stored unloaded. Curt said he loaded the magazine into the
handgun and racked the slide, but it slipped and had to re-rack the slide to
chamber a round.
• After Curt loaded the weapon, he said he proceeded out of the safe room
toward the top of the stairwell. Curt stated as he was moving toward the
top of the stairwell, he told his wife Yoshie (who was still in the loft area)
to get in the safe room. Curt said as he approached the top of the stairwell,
he could hear and see that the individuals outside were still trying to get
into his home. Curt said he was positioned slightly off to the side of the
stairwell at the top and could see two individuals from the same windows
of the front door. Curt described the individuals were “thrusting” at the
front door to get in with what he described as getting more and more
aggressive.
• Curt referred to the moment the shot was fired as “the incident” and not as
firing a shot. (Yoshie states in her interview with Det. Thomas and Det.
McClosky that at this moment Curt fired a shot toward the front door of
the residence). Curt confirmed that the front door did not open prior to
“the incident” occurring.
• Reporting Detective asked Curt how long it was after he retrieved his gun
and was at the top of the stairs until the time he fired the round and he said
it was about 10-15 seconds.
• When asked, Curt said he didn’t announce himself or say anything to the
two individuals prior to firing the round.
• Lt. Minton stated to Curt, “I’m assuming you fired one round toward the
door?” To which Curt nodded his head yes.
• When asked after he fired the round, did he hear anything or did the
commotion stop, Curt responded that he heard a man crying out and
weeping. Curt said that he didn’t know what he was hearing and if maybe
he just scared them or something.
• Curt stated after “the incident” happened (Curt’s verbiage of the shot
occurring) he told Yoshie to call 911. Curt said he stayed at the top of the
stairs and Yoshie grabbed her phone, which was in the front southwest
corner room of the 2nd floor and dialed 911. Curt said that Yoshie came
toward him and heard the dispatcher asking for the address and Yoshie
handed him the phone. Curt told the dispatcher his address and said
“please come, please come, please come, they are trying to get in.” Curt
said he was holding the firearm in his right hand and the phone in his left
hand. He said he did not know what to do with the gun.
CASE NUMBER: 06D01-2511-F2-002403 FILED: 11/16/2025
9
• Curt was asked about how long it was from the time he was awakened by
the sound at the door until the shot was fired, and he replied that it was
quick but wasn’t sure exactly how long.
• During the interview, Curt drew the layout of the stairwell, front door, the
loft and the rooms on the second floor.
• While on the phone with the 911 dispatcher, Curt stated that the dispatcher
told him that the police had arrived. Curt advised reporting Detective that
while she told him that, he told the dispatcher he still couldn’t see the
police at this time and said he was still scared of the individuals on the
porch.
• While on the phone with 911, Curt said the dispatcher told him that he
needed to put the gun down, so Curt put it back on the “spongy stuff” on
the pelican gun case.
• Curt said he wouldn’t come downstairs because he still saw the
individuals outside and was still afraid that they might come in. Curt said
he saw a male on the phone and didn’t know who he might be calling (this
would have been when Mauricio, husband of victim, was calling 911).
• Curt said that the dispatcher told him there were multiple officers on scene
and after some time, Curt said he went to the southwest corner room on
the second floor and peeked out the window. This is when he said he saw
an officer outside the front with his gun drawn. He looked further out and
saw all the police presence.
• Curt said the dispatcher said he and his wife needed to come down the
stairs with your hands up. Curt told the dispatcher that he was still scared
of the individuals on the porch and that he wanted them off the porch to
feel safe to come down.
• After some time, Curt said he and his wife started to come down the stairs
per the instructions from the dispatcher. Curt said he and his wife
proceeded down the stairs with their hands up.
• As they got to the bottom of the stairs, Curt said he saw an officer running
across the street in the direction of the back of the house and a large police
presence, so he felt more comfortable and knew they were going to be ok.
• Curt said he told the dispatcher they were coming to the back of the house
now. Curt put the phone down on the kitchen table.
• Curt said they exited the house through the back sliding door per
instructions and were called back to the street where he and Yoshie were
detained by law enforcement officers.
• Curt told detectives that from the time he awoke to the noise to the “the
incident” occurring was over a minute.
CASE NUMBER: 06D01-2511-F2-002403 FILED: 11/16/2025
10
• After gathering the facts from Curt, he was told of the outcome of his fired
round and that the person that was shot was a female and part of a
cleaning crew with her husband who had mistakenly went to the wrong
address.
• Curt became upset and immediately put his head down on the table.
• After some time, Curt said he didn’t mean for anything to happen to
anybody.
• Reporting Detective asked Curt if he gave consent to search his phone.
Reporting Detective read Curt his Pirtle Warning from a Consent to Search
Form and he consented to the search of his phone. Curt signed the form.
Curt’s iPhone 16 was forensically extracted by the WMPD Cyber Lab.
So 911 wasn't called until after the shooting.
I kept reading and reading and reading his statement wondering why his wife didn't call 911 immediately .
For a couple that was so prepared for a break-in they sure missed a crucial step, a step if I was on their jury would be paramount.
imo
 
  • #286
My jaw dropped reading his account. So he’s obviously worried about home security (he alludes to having, on previous occasions, envisioned a home invasion scenario and thus has established with his wife the area they will use as their “safe room” if the scenario comes to pass), but I wonder if he has any kind of cameras or alarms/home security system installed? Or even a heavy duty set of deadbolts and locks and such on the front door which would prevent your average robbers from being able to get inside? I mean, if I were so concerned about a home invasion that I had established a nominal “safe room” with my spouse, I would for sure do whatever I could to try to lessen the likelihood that it could occur by taking these common precautions.

Also, I was surprised to read of his lack of preparation to use the handgun he owned—he never uses the first gun he purchases, and for whatever reason he trades it in for another one (that he also never fires/practices with), but nonetheless—when he is groggy and professes to be under duress—he’s able to assemble the darn thing, load it, and fire a lethal head shot (from a distance, at a downward angle) through his front door. It beggars belief.
 
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  • #287
So 911 wasn't called until after the shooting.
I kept reading and reading and reading his statement wondering why his wife didn't call 911 immediately .
For a couple that was so prepared for a break-in they sure missed a crucial step, a step if I was on their jury would be paramount.
imo
I wondered if perhaps his wife speaks English with an strong accent (her name and his career with the US Navy make me wonder if she might be Japanese)—she handed the phone to him to give the 911 dispatcher the address, which surely she knew herself, having lived there for four years.
 
  • #288
I wondered if perhaps his wife speaks English with an strong accent (her name and his career with the US Navy make me wonder if she might be Japanese)—she handed the phone to him to give the 911 dispatcher the address, which surely she knew herself, having lived there for four years.

She sounds pretty fluent in English here.

'Wife says Andersen told a neighbor he would shoot any intruder'​

'Andersen's wife, Yoshie Andersen, told investigators that her husband told her that he told a neighbor if anyone tried to break into his house he would shoot them. The probable cause statement does not say when this conversation happened.

She added that her husband fired the shot from the top of the stairs and neither of them went downstairs. He fired the shot and then told her to call 911, she said.'

 
  • #289
So 911 wasn't called until after the shooting.
I kept reading and reading and reading his statement wondering why his wife didn't call 911 immediately .
For a couple that was so prepared for a break-in they sure missed a crucial step, a step if I was on their jury would be paramount.
imo
More than one step is out of sync to my thinking and makes no sense. Not calling 911 immediately, sure. Then, the gun was in a different room, locked in a safe (wonder where the key was and how easy it was to unlock?) The magazine was not even filled, so groggy with sleep he had to fumble around unlocking the safe then putting the rounds into the magazine. That's not easy and takes some time. I'd guess he was way off on the amount of time that passed from when he was awakened until he shot. Didn't sound as though he/they took any classes either when he bought the gun. They both needed to know and understand handling it.

Just way off - to my own way of thinking.
 
  • #290
More than one step is out of sync to my thinking and makes no sense. Not calling 911 immediately, sure. Then, the gun was in a different room, locked in a safe (wonder where the key was and how easy it was to unlock?) The magazine was not even filled, so groggy with sleep he had to fumble around unlocking the safe then putting the rounds into the magazine. That's not easy and takes some time. I'd guess he was way off on the amount of time that passed from when he was awakened until he shot. Didn't sound as though he/they took any classes either when he bought the gun. They both needed to know and understand handling it.

Just way off - to my own way of thinking.
Right out of a "Keystone Cops" class.
Andersen was dangerous even before he retrieved his gun.
Stupidity cannot be reasoned with.

Curious if there was an upstairs window that he/she just could have yelled down to them from asking what they wanted.

No ring camera?

I would think the couple had some cleaning
supplies/equipment with them.
imo
 
  • #291
She sounds pretty fluent in English here.

'Wife says Andersen told a neighbor he would shoot any intruder'​

'Andersen's wife, Yoshie Andersen, told investigators that her husband told her that he told a neighbor if anyone tried to break into his house he would shoot them. The probable cause statement does not say when this conversation happened.

She added that her husband fired the shot from the top of the stairs and neither of them went downstairs. He fired the shot and then told her to call 911, she said.'

So, he was the type to fantasize about a scenario in which he’d have to shoot someone, and be the ‘protector of his castle’. Very telling. MOO.
 
  • #292
But I do feel like he was surprised as anyone that someone died from that shot

You can't shoot toward people and be surprised when you shoot someone, though. It really doesn't matter if he shot from the top or bottom of the stairs toward the door. He knew two people were on the other side. If he wanted to warn them, he could have shouted that he had a gun. He wanted to shoot at them through the door and he did.
 
  • #293
I believe this is the suspect. He just renewed his Indiana Registered Nurse license. No disciplinary action on it.

I thought he would have traffic violations. (You know the type. Entitled who feel laws don't apply) But I checked and he doesn't.
 
  • #294
You can't shoot toward people and be surprised when you shoot someone, though. It really doesn't matter if he shot from the top or bottom of the stairs toward the door. He knew two people were on the other side. If he wanted to warn them, he could have shouted that he had a gun. He wanted to shoot at them through the door and he did.
Exactly. It's reasonable and expected that an adult would know they are risking severe injury and death by firing. Especially an adult who apparently has a licence to own and operate a weapon!! Moo.

This is an e.g of reckless and criminal indifference to human life and entitlement. The charges are appropriate from what I can see. Perhaps even an upgrade at some point. Idk Jmo.
 
  • #295

"The heartbroken husband said:
'It's not easy when the person you love, your partner at home,
is taken from you just like that.

For me, at that moment,
seeing my wife in my arms,
already lifeless, covered in blood,
I felt like they tore everything from me'.

The 32-year-old mom leaves behind four children,
aged from 11 months to 17 years old."

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:(
 
  • #296
  • #297
You can't shoot toward people and be surprised when you shoot someone, though. It really doesn't matter if he shot from the top or bottom of the stairs toward the door. He knew two people were on the other side. If he wanted to warn them, he could have shouted that he had a gun. He wanted to shoot at them through the door and he did.

I wonder if it was a blindly as he makes out? As stated in his words to police upthread, and from pictures of the front door (i will see if I can find msm pics of the door), there's a window above and one to the side of the front door, if the stairs are directly in front of the door, could he see through the top window from the top of the stairs? He may not have been able to see Maria if she was directly in front of the door, but maybe her husband talking to her?
 
  • #298
I am shocked that he didn’t shoot the cops, too.
 
  • #299
So 911 wasn't called until after the shooting.
I kept reading and reading and reading his statement wondering why his wife didn't call 911 immediately .
For a couple that was so prepared for a break-in they sure missed a crucial step, a step if I was on their jury would be paramount.
imo

shooting was literally his first resort
 
  • #300
...
• After gathering the facts from Curt, he was told of the outcome of his fired
round and that the person that was shot was a female and part of a
cleaning crew with her husband who had mistakenly went to the wrong
address.
• Curt became upset and immediately put his head down on the table.
• After some time, Curt said he didn’t mean for anything to happen to
anybody.
....
he gets it now

if only there had been ways for him to get any information at all before Blowing Away the Bad Guys. if only there had been some simple phone number he could have called for help. if only there had been some sort of locked door between him and the Home Invaders so as to protect him.
 

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