Cleaning crew member shot and killed on porch after arriving at the wrong house

[Lebowski]

Here are the Google Map directions using the addresses from an earlier linked article. Seems like the attorney is technically correct that if someone were to drive from the house where the shooting happened, to the model home it would be 1.5 miles of driving. But as you can see from the map link, the model home is directly behind Andersen's home. For the first home (and just a model home) in a brand new neighborhood, it makes sense how the GPS led them to his house.

i'd nitpick "directly behind", and say it looks like ~300 yards as the crow flies. but yeah, there's nothing but open field in between the two houses, and i agree it makes sense GPS would lead them there by mistake.

 

[tlcya]

from the PC affidavit - direct quote

Reporting Detective made contact with a representative from Ryan Homes. This representative confirmed that , Whitestown, IN 46075 is their model home in the Windswept Farms Subdivision (directly to the east of 4283 Maize Lane) and they subcontract out the cleaning phase for this home to A&A Quality Cleaning LLC. This representative stated that A&A Quality Cleaning then has crews she schedules and hires to perform all interior cleaning, window cleaning, as well as pressure washing to this model home. This representative then stated this particular address () had completed construction on October 30th , 2025, and was officially Ryan Homes’s model home for the Windswept Farms Subdivision.
Whitestown man charged in shooting death of cleaning woman who went to wrong house

Windswept Farms Single-Family Homes | Main-Level Owner's Suites Available for Sale | Ryan Homes

the marker indicates where the Windswept Farms subdivision is and Maize Lane (Anderson home) is directly to the West of that. It is some distance but nothing exists between the two. The new homes are being built on what was once farmland it appears.

from google maps

 

[Lebowski]

i'm worrying a little bit about whether that marker accurately conveys the position of the model home, but it probably doesn't matter much. in any case, you have a few hundred yards of open field between the two. clearly, it's the adjacent property. obvious how a little latency in the data and a confused algorithm could lead them to the wrong place.

 

[tlcya]

i'm worrying a little bit about whether that marker accurately conveys the position of the model home, but it probably doesn't matter much. in any case, you have a few hundred yards of open field between the two. clearly, it's the adjacent property. obvious how a little latency in the data and a confused algorithm could lead them to the wrong place.

agree, I couldn't get the exact address for the model home as it has been redacted from the PC, so all the marker indicates is where that new subdivision exists.

 

[IceIce9]

'Paranoid' homeowner had reported 'suspicious activity' on two occasions before a house cleaner was fatally shot

ETA this snip

When Andersen’s former neighbor Brittany Barker first heard of this fatal shooting near her previous residence, the 38-year-old said she fearfully suspected who might've pulled the trigger.

"He was very paranoid about the world," Barker said.

Andersen lived his life in fear of crime and he and his young wife rarely socialized, Barker said.

From the article:

Andersen had even designated a "safe room" in his house in case intruders got inside, the complaint said.

He was a decorated pistol sharpshooter and a four-time overseas service ribbon recipient.

 

[louvillian08]

He was a decorated pistol sharpshooter and a four-time overseas service ribbon recipient.

I was waiting for this. Something about his insistence that he had never even shot the gun he owned set off alarm bells in my head. Definitely seems like an attempt to downplay the chances he could have actually shot someone through a door

 

[IceIce9]

I was waiting for this. Something about his insistence that he had never even shot the gun he owned set off alarm bells in my head. Definitely seems like an attempt to downplay the chances he could have actually shot someone through a door

My exact thought.

 

[Cryptic]

He was a decorated pistol sharpshooter and a four-time overseas service ribbon recipient.

I was waiting for this. Something about his insistence that he had never even shot the gun he owned set off alarm bells in my head. Definitely seems like an attempt to downplay the chances he could have actually shot someone through a door

Uncle Sam is pretty generous with marksmanship badge titles. This could be due out of a desire to award basic trainees with a realistically obtainable accomplishment badge.

Though not to denigrate people who have shot 'sharp shooter', the badge itself does not mean extensive training, nor extensive interest in fire arms. Rather, it simply means that he shot a certain score on a training course that all basic trainees must complete.

He may of needed to re-qualify with a pistol periodically through out his career. If he was a combat medic, these re-qualifications would likely have been more often. But.... if his nursing specialty was largely non combat, I imagine that re-qualifications could be less frequent.

All of the above aside, I think you have a valid question (Is he downplaying his weapons experience?). I do think, however, that a more fruit search would be social media, gun range memberships etc.

 

[PrairieWind]

From the article:

Andersen had even designated a "safe room" in his house in case intruders got inside, the complaint said.

He was a decorated pistol sharpshooter and a four-time overseas service ribbon recipient.

I'm not sure either of these will be relevant or admissible at any trial.

 

[tara83]

I'm not sure either of these will be relevant or admissible at any trial.

I don't see why not. It's very important for them to know he had a safe room but still chose to go shoot someone and didn't even call 911 until after the shooting!

 

[PrairieWind]

I don't see why not. It's very important for them to know he had a safe room but still chose to go shoot someone and didn't even call 911 until after the shooting!

If he is making a castle doctrine defense, no retreat is required in his home. So the defense is never going to allow any discussion of a safe room.

 

[Sillybilly]

The address they were supposed to go to is redacted in the PCA. But can anyone with local knowledge work out how far away it might be from the address they actually went to?

The killer's attorney, Guy Relford, states that it was 'a full mile away [...] in a different neighborhood' (source).

Not massively important, but I would like to know.

Although this is not an approved source, this episode is allowed due to it containing the interview with attorney, Guy Relford, who is directly involved in the case through his representation of the shooter.

This is one-time approval only for this episode and is not blanket approval for future episodes.

 

[legalmomma]

Quoting myself because it’s too late to edit typo - Astonied, LLC

Andersen’s LLC

Weird. I'd never heard the word before so I looked it up.

astonied​

adjective​

as·ton·ied ə-ˈstä-nēd

1
archaic : deprived briefly of the power to act : DAZED

2
archaic : filled with consternation or dismay

Definition of ASTONIED

deprived briefly of the power to act : dazed; filled with consternation or dismay… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

Someone send this to the prosecutor

 

[fcavanaugh]

We know Indiana has no duty to retreat under their SYG law. That said, CA and his team can bang that drum all day long and imo his Attorney certainly will at trial.
In the end, a Jury will consider the circumstances and evidence and decide whether a reasonable person under these same circumstances would have taken the action CA did. I believe the legal requirement/legalese is, does the defendant’s action(s) meet the legal threshold of reasonable.

Per link posted previously, it’s also my understanding that a person/defendant using SYG as a defense in Indiana, means the Jury will also take into consideration whether there was an imminent threat, the sizes of the individuals involved, type of weapon used, and whether the force used was proportionate to the threat posed. Which all makes sense and good that SYG has certain legal requirements that need to be met otherwise we’d have people running around shooting and killing people for every little thing/scuffle/disagreement like it’s the Wild West, claiming self defense/abusing SYG.

So the Jury will certainly consider the fact that the people CA saw on his porch hadn’t breached his locked door and made entry into his home, that CA didn’t immediately call 911 to inform and receive guidance (he had time to do so as again, the people were on the other side of his locked door/hadn’t made entry) and went straight to using extreme force while he was safe behind a closed locked door at the time, at people that weren’t wearing a disguise/mask, waving weapons, creeping around his property looking into windows to see who might be home etc. IMO considering all the circumstances, CA’s action was not reasonable and I think a logical, reasonable Jury will likely conclude same.

IMO had he immediately called 911, the operator would have instructed CA to not shoot at people he suspected of trying to break in, to get himself and his wife to a safe room in the house and lock that door if possible or put a barricade up behind door, stay on the line and stay put until police arrive.
IMO no responsible 911 operator is going to advise caller to shoot at someone(s) they assume/suspect are trying to break into their home, never mind shoot through a locked door at them. Jumping off that thought, the more info that gets released, I don’t think CA thought he and his wife’s lives were in imminent danger. I think he knew exactly what he was doing not calling 911 immediately as likely knew he’d be advised not to confront/shoot etc.

I’m leaning BS on CA’s claim that he didn’t intend to harm anyone during
“the incident”, but just for argument sake, even if it were true that he didn’t intend to harm anyone, how many times have we heard about innocent people/bystanders being struck and killed by a stray bullet(s)?! It’s unfortunately happened many times in this country and no one could convince me that CA wasn’t/isn’t aware of that fact. IMO CA, like just about everyone on the planet gun owner or not, knows a bullet shot through a door could potentially strike and kill someone, period.

At any rate, I’m glad the Prosecutor, after carefully considering the circumstances, filed charges and hopefully in the name of justice for Maria and her family, CA will ultimately be held accountable by a Jury, and Judge accordingly at sentencing.

IMHOO

 

[Charlot123]

All of us have at least once mistaken a house.
When I got a Halloween invitation from a talented architect, I could not imagine that his own house was on the border of the 4th dimension and not seen on Google Maps. So I ended up knocking at the next door on that street. The hosts were cautious at first. They were of a different ethnicity but, being Coptic and seeing my Orthodox cross, invited me to spend the Halloween with them. Another occasion: the FEDEX dropped an expensive shipment in a different neighborhood and a very nice old Chinese houseowner, drove to my house to “deliver” it personally.
These are good endings but people risk these days as no one puts out: “no trespassing! Paranoid homeowner!” signs.

So RIP, Maria Florinda Rios Perez, and I hope that justice will be served. A 32-year-old mother.

On the other hand, it is not difficult to mistake the house as it marked as being on the street, but IRL is behind the line of houses. People may be mistaken. Can you imagine a new realtor bringing in prospective customers and making a mistake? I can. Or people buying it and losing their way? I know tons of such situations. The truth is, with an irrational house owner and the numeration being off, it is a disaster waiting to happen.

So, two companies. The realtors who are selling a new house order the cleaning job. They should probably make a good drawing of the area and fax/text it over to the cleaning company the day before. The best ones may wish to warn the neighbors and put signs, but at least see to it that the cleaners are not confused. An area, being not known to the cleaners, and the cleaners being from another country, I guess that these days we have to correct for potential paranoia and panic, too. Now the company ends up selling a house marked by a tragedy.

Or at least the sellers should have left the contact phone number for the cleaners.

Was the couple owning the cleaning company? Or is it a bigger cleaning company with different owners? If so, do they gather and distribute the cleaning jobs? Is it too difficult to ask upon receiving an order if there might be any problems with finding the location?

In short, we can’t control for Curts Andersons, but can we minimize the risk of not running into them?

A horrible story and Anderson, hopefully, will be held fully liable.

 

[Blu_widow78]

The news does indicate this is being considered a "homicide". It's early days yet. Wonder how that will hold up?

I disagree totally with the term "murder". Someone was killed. It genuinely is a tragedy. In my own guesstimation and state of residence, it might be manslaughter not murder. I am not a lawyer and realize the legal definitions vary from one state to another.

This mother's death is a tragedy and should never have happened, but this appears a complex situation to me personally.

Never having been terrorized, I have no idea how I would react in an actual incident. While I do have plans mentally in place would I remember them? Would you?

Homicide is not a criminal term.


For instance if someone dies via the death penalty by lethal injection, it's "homicide, drug induced" or something like that. However, it is a homicide. There is also accidental homicide. Also, when a toddler obtains a gun a shoots someone it's also a homicide.

As to whether they will indict this person, who knows? I think they should, unless there is something that we don't know about.

Its very hard to form an opinion because we didn't see what happened or know, all we have is hearsay . From the shooters prospective is that he was protecting himself from an intruder, as in self defense, from her perspective, talk about in the place and wrong time.. Jesus! Very tragic and unfortunate ..God bless her family and give them the strength they need .Que en paz descanse !

 

[Gordon_]

My first thought, learning about his job, was:

How could this person be a nurse,
especially, a psychiatric one??

(Psychiatric) nurses are usually characterized by:
- empathy,
- strong communication skills,
- critical thinking,
- self-awareness,
- being able to manage complex situations.

SMH

JMO

Mostly true for sure. I work in that field and tbh plenty of people who end up going into it, they themselves have suffered at times from depression, and other mental health problems. So who knows if there was some underlying issue here or not.

 

[Friday Fan]

agree, I couldn't get the exact address for the model home as it has been redacted from the PC, so all the marker indicates is where that new subdivision exists.

The address was in some article awhile back. I think it directed to a pin in the area of the pin in your post. Who knows where the new house really is.

Bottom line: CA shot at two people who were at the wrong door.

 

[legalmomma]

Curt Andersen Initial Hearing today at 10EST. Not sure if Judge Kincaid will stream it but if so it can be found here under Boone County:

IN Court Streams - IN Court Streams

Indiana Supreme Court, Public Access

public.courts.in.gov

Level 2 felony bond $50,000

https://www.in.gov/ipdc/files/boone-local-rules.pdf

 

[legalmomma]

The woman walking with defense attorney Guy Relford is Andersens wife, Yoshi

https://twitter.com/x/status/1991880838167028140