Cleaning crew member shot and killed on porch after arriving at the wrong house

[BayouBelle_LA]

He opened a LLC recently.
Search here. Atonied, LLC

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[steeltowngirl]

Agreed.

Can anybody find any info on what the perp’s background is? His name was doing the rounds on social media almost immediately and I’m curious whether other rumoured info happens to also be true (like his occupation for example).

There was a rumor that he was a former police officer, but that was debunked.

On Friday, Whitestown police addressed false information being spread about the case on social media. Several comments on media reports kept claiming the homeowner was a local police officer.

“We want to unequivocally state that these claims are entirely false,” Whitestown police said. “No officer—whether currently serving, retired, resigned, terminated, or otherwise affiliated with the Whitestown Metropolitan Police Department or any other police department—resides at or has any personal connection to the location of the incident.”

https://fox59.com/news/prosecutor-weighs-whether-shooting-in-whitestown-that-killed-cleaning-lady-was-justified-under-the-law/

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

He opened a LLC recently.
Search here. Atonied, LLC

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Quoting myself because it’s too late to edit typo - Astonied, LLC

 

[steeltowngirl]

Quoting myself because it’s too late to edit typo - Astonied, LLC

Weird. I'd never heard the word before so I looked it up.

astonied​

adjective​

as·ton·ied ə-ˈstä-nēd

1
archaic : deprived briefly of the power to act : DAZED

2
archaic : filled with consternation or dismay

Definition of ASTONIED

deprived briefly of the power to act : dazed; filled with consternation or dismay… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

 

[realanastasia]

Yoshie also describes the event very differently, telling police she heard ‘the constant turning of a locked doorknob’, not the more violent attempts to enter her husband described.

“The turning of a locked doorknob”? Doorknobs that are locked usually don’t turn, but maybe she meant she heard a doorknob rattling?

Even still, I am confused because the PCA refers to the front door having a deadbolt and handle (thinking this is a lever-style handle). Maybe the interior side has a knob, but…I definitely don’t think that is the norm. The front door is obscured by a tree in the photos I have seen in the news, but if someone finds a clearer view of it and wants to share, I would appreciate it!

 

[Friday Fan]

“The turning of a locked doorknob”? Doorknobs that are locked usually don’t turn, but maybe she meant she heard a doorknob rattling?

Even still, I am confused because the PCA refers to the front door having a deadbolt and handle (thinking this is a lever-style handle). Maybe the interior side has a knob, but…I definitely don’t think that is the norm. The front door is obscured by a tree in the photos I have seen in the news, but if someone finds a clearer view of it and wants to share, I would appreciate it!

I kinda doubt if the house has a door knob. It's a newer home and it's a nicer home. Lever style handles seem to be the norm in nicer homes these days.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

What do we make of the fact that they heard Maria's husband crying on the other side of the door but didn't do anything besides finally call 911 and hide?

I guess you could argue you had no duty to render aid because you feared retaliation, but it seems so cold IF his main point in calling 911 was to report a break-in and not to ask for an ambulance.

All my opinion only.

 

[sunspun]

What do we make of the fact that they heard Maria's husband crying on the other side of the door but didn't do anything besides finally call 911 and hide?

I guess you could argue you had no duty to render aid because you feared retaliation, but it seems so cold IF his main point in calling 911 was to report a break-in and not to ask for an ambulance.

All my opinion only.

IMO, rendering aid or even calling for an ambulance never entered his mind.

 

[CuriousCricket]

What do we make of the fact that they heard Maria's husband crying on the other side of the door but didn't do anything besides finally call 911 and hide?

I guess you could argue you had no duty to render aid because you feared retaliation, but it seems so cold IF his main point in calling 911 was to report a break-in and not to ask for an ambulance.

All my opinion only.

IF what has been reported was in the shooter's actual words and the order in which he said them, then his thinking is so foreign to me and the way I see things and think I can't begin to understand where he's coming from.

 

[tlcya]

“The turning of a locked doorknob”? Doorknobs that are locked usually don’t turn, but maybe she meant she heard a doorknob rattling?

Even still, I am confused because the PCA refers to the front door having a deadbolt and handle (thinking this is a lever-style handle). Maybe the interior side has a knob, but…I definitely don’t think that is the norm. The front door is obscured by a tree in the photos I have seen in the news, but if someone finds a clearer view of it and wants to share, I would appreciate it!

there is a clearer view but it is shown by an article from a news org that is not approved via TOS. I will try to pull up a google view of the home which shows what is visible behind that tree that obscures the home from the road in front of the home.

 

[tlcya]

the trees are located on the grassy easement between sidewalk and street, they do not appear to be close to the house and do not appear to obscure the view from the upstairs windows MOO
https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.tow...75a95c/690b65b40f7a1.image.jpg?resize=750,500
found at this site Woman fatally shot in Whitestown early Wednesday

and can be seen in the video at this one at the :20 mark https://fox59.com/video/woman-dies-after-shooting-in-whitestown/11234291/

 

[tlcya]

making some notes for myself from the PC affidavit since I have difficulty visualizing the layout of the house

In viewing the home on google maps it appears the front of the home faces west, the rear faces east. The loft area Curt and Yoshie describe sleeping in has a window which faces east, therefor I feel safe in assuming the loft area is toward the rear of the home on the second floor from the top of the stairs' landing.

Curt viewed two individuals on his front porch from the top of the stair landing through a window in the door and one to the side of the door.

Curt went to the safe room/music room located in a room that is located behind the futon in the loft area (southeast corner room of the home) to fetch his weapon.

After the shooting, when Anderson was refusing to come out as directed by LEOs he went into the upper southwest corner room and peeked out the window and saw an officer outside the front with his gun drawn. He looked further out and saw all the police presence. (this is the window I believe he could see his front porch from) as he told LE he would not come down until the individuals (victim and her husband) were off his porch because he could see that they were still there and he was scared (boo hoo moo).

 

[marloweclover]

I may have found the floorplan, with a virtual walk through. I found info about the builder of the neighborhood, which referred to the homes being from their Smart Series floorplans, then looked through those until I found one with mostly matching windows, front elevation, and a loft at the top of the stairs.

about the neighborhood
Akerman plan walk-through

 

[dm799]

The address they were supposed to go to is redacted in the PCA. But can anyone with local knowledge work out how far away it might be from the address they actually went to?

The killer's attorney, Guy Relford, states that it was 'a full mile away [...] in a different neighborhood' (source).

Not massively important, but I would like to know.

 

[Megnut]

The address they were supposed to go to is redacted in the PCA. But can anyone with local knowledge work out how far away it might be from the address they actually went to?

The killer's attorney, Guy Relford, states that it was 'a full mile away [...] in a different neighborhood' (source).

Not massively important, but I would like to know.

According to this post by @tlcya based on the affidavit, it was behind and directly to the easy of. That sounds a while lot closer than a mile.

JMO


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[Lebowski]

if the model home is indeed directly behind the anderson's house, i hope relford states in court or a filing that it was "a mile away!". nothing like a false statement on a point of pure fact to inspire the jury's confidence.

 

[louvillian08]

The address they were supposed to go to is redacted in the PCA. But can anyone with local knowledge work out how far away it might be from the address they actually went to?

The killer's attorney, Guy Relford, states that it was 'a full mile away [...] in a different neighborhood' (source).

Not massively important, but I would like to know.

Here are the Google Map directions using the addresses from an earlier linked article. Seems like the attorney is technically correct that if someone were to drive from the house where the shooting happened, to the model home it would be 1.5 miles of driving. But as you can see from the map link, the model home is directly behind Andersen's home. For the first home (and just a model home) in a brand new neighborhood, it makes sense how the GPS led them to his house.

 

[IceIce9]

Here are the Google Map directions using the addresses from an earlier linked article. Seems like the attorney is technically correct that if someone were to drive from the house where the shooting happened, to the model home it would be 1.5 miles of driving. But as you can see from the map link, the model home is directly behind Andersen's home. For the first home (and just a model home) in a brand new neighborhood, it makes sense how the GPS led them to his house.

I have lived in my home for several years, in a neighborhood that is approximately ten miles to the east.

Even though my neighborhood is several years old, GPS does not work properly with my home address. When my address is typed in, the directions go to a home on a street behind mine, not even directly in back but around a curve and facing a different direction.

The street names are completely different.

 

[tlcya]

'Paranoid' homeowner had reported 'suspicious activity' on two occasions before a house cleaner was fatally shot

ETA this snip

When Andersen’s former neighbor Brittany Barker first heard of this fatal shooting near her previous residence, the 38-year-old said she fearfully suspected who might've pulled the trigger.

"He was very paranoid about the world," Barker said.

Andersen lived his life in fear of crime and he and his young wife rarely socialized, Barker said.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

'Paranoid' homeowner had reported 'suspicious activity' on two occasions before a house cleaner was fatally shot

“When Andersen’s former neighbor Brittany Barker first heard of this fatal shooting near her previous residence, the 38-year-old said she fearfully suspected who might've pulled the trigger.

Andersen lived his life in fear of crime and he and his young wife rarely socialized, Barker said…

"And I would always tell him, 'Crime happens everywhere. You can step outside your door. Your wife can come outside.' I was always trying to conflict with his beliefs of the world (about) the danger and the crime that was going on. I tried to tell him otherwise. We had lots of conversations about that."“

Wow.

ETA: took out a couple snippets to ensure I’m under 10% of the article