CO - BARRY ARRESTED AGAIN - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w/o prejudice* *found in 2023* #119

[MassGuy]

She got listed as a DV fatality before there was evidence she was murdered or deceased.

The evidence that Barry had killed her was overwhelming, and few people needed her body to be found with BAM in her bones to be convinced.

 

[LinasK]

True, Suzanne had not yet been declared deceased in 2020. Of course, that fact didn’t stop Barry from petitioning for control of Suzanne’s finances through guardianship, nor stop him from voting on her behalf.

JMO

One shouldn't be allowed to vote on behalf of one's spouse whether they are alive or dead! One vote, one person.

 

[waldojabba]

I think LE said they came upon Suzanne's remains while searching for another missing person. You could very well be right, maybe somebody tipped ole' Barr in. Wouldn't that be awesome?

It was Edna Quintana they were looking for ( there is a thread here).
Edna was not a hiker per her kids and siblings , none the less she supposedly went out on a hike with her boyfiriend in Sauguache County. Per the boyfriend - Edna went back to the car early and when he finished his hike she was not in the car and nowhere to be found.
I don't think it's far fetched that LE decided to look at the "boneyard" ( the area where SM was found)for Edna, as it was a well known dumping ground for bodies and located in the overall area she went missing.
Serendipity !
Edna is still missing.
JMO

 

[waldojabba]

One shouldn't be allowed to vote on behalf of one's spouse whether they are alive or dead! One vote, one person.

Correct !There are laws against it. It is not allowed per law - Barry was charged and found guilty.
JMO

 

[Megnut]

It was Edna Quintana they were looking for ( there is a thread here).
Edna was not a hiker per her kids and siblings , none the less she supposedly went out on a hike with her boyfiriend in Sauguache County. Per the boyfriend - Edna went back to the car early and when he finished his hike she was not in the car and nowhere to be found.
I don't think it's far fetched that LE decided to look at the "boneyard" ( the area where SM was found)for Edna, as it was a well known dumping ground for bodies and located in the overall area she went missing.
Serendipity !
Edna is still missing.
JMO

It's such a bizarre coincidence.

Can't stop myself from wondering where Barry was the day Edna went missing.

More than that, I want to know if he covered the grave he dug. Or, knowing parts were missing, was he the wildlife that disturbed the grave? More staging? Leave some bones here and there and maybe no one will notice some are missing? Pick some more animals to blame?

$64,000 question -- how recent to the discovery of ber remains had he moved her there?

Did he nudge LE to go looking there? Say, an anonymous tip?

Or did he barry her there, thinking she would never be found?

Why, just why?

JMO

 

[fcavanaugh]

It was Edna Quintana they were looking for ( there is a thread here).
Edna was not a hiker per her kids and siblings , none the less she supposedly went out on a hike with her boyfiriend in Sauguache County. Per the boyfriend - Edna went back to the car early and when he finished his hike she was not in the car and nowhere to be found.
I don't think it's far fetched that LE decided to look at the "boneyard" ( the area where SM was found)for Edna, as it was a well known dumping ground for bodies and located in the overall area she went missing.
Serendipity !
Edna is still missing.
JMO

RBBM
Unfortunately Edna was found deceased a few months ago.

Human Remains Found in Remote Area Confirmed to Be Edna Quintana​

June 27, 2025- CBI - Saguache, CO-

“On June 17, 2025, a hiker in a remote area of Saguache County discovered what appeared to be human remains and immediately contacted the Saguache County Sheriff’s Office. Deputies promptly responded to the location and secured the scene pending further investigation.”

“On June 25, 2025, the El Paso County Coroner’s Office confirmed the identity of the remains as Edna Quintana, who had previously been reported missing. The 55-year-old was reported to have gone missing around May 3, 2023, while rock hunting on County Road 46AA in Saguache, Colorado.”

*More at link

Human Remains Found in Remote Area Confirmed to Be Edna Quintana | Colorado Bureau of Investigation

June 27, 2025- CBI - Saguache, CO- On June 17, 2025, a hiker in a remote area of Saguache County discovered what appeared to be human remains and immediately contacted the Saguache County Sheriff’s Office. Deputies promptly responded to the location and secured the scene pending further...

cbi.colorado.gov

IMHOO

#JUSTICEFORSUZANNE

 

[Seattle1]

I don't think it's far fetched that LE decided to look at the "boneyard" ( the area where SM was found)for Edna, as it was a well known dumping ground for bodies and located in the overall area she went missing.
Serendipity !
Edna is still missing.
JMO

^^rsbm

CBI announced on 6/27/25 that Edna's remains were found in a remote area of Saguache County by a hiker on 6/17/25. They've not released the exact location.

Human Remains Found in Remote Area Confirmed to Be Edna Quintana | Colorado Bureau of Investigation

 

[justtrish]

It's such a bizarre coincidence.

Can't stop myself from wondering where Barry was the day Edna went missing.

More than that, I want to know if he covered the grave he dug. Or, knowing parts were missing, was he the wildlife that disturbed the grave? More staging? Leave some bones here and there and maybe no one will notice some are missing? Pick some more animals to blame?

$64,000 question -- how recent to the discovery of ber remains had he moved her there?

Did he nudge LE to go looking there? Say, an anonymous tip?

Or did he barry her there, thinking she would never be found?

Why, just why?

JMO

I too would love answers to these questions.

I will say I think his goal was that she be found. No way he risks moving her so she won't be found because at that point she hadn't been found so what made him think she would be? I don't know where the first burial was, but I can say where he put her was not well hidden. If he didn't want her found he could have went into the forest and dug a deep hole. He instead went right off a highway and barely buried her. I think he wanted her found or he never would have risked moving her.

 

[Seattle1]

Remains of a 55-Year-Old Woman Found in Colorado, Over 2 Years After She Went Missing

The remains of a woman, 55-year-old Edna Quintana, who went missing while rock hunting in Colorado over two years ago in May 2023, have been found.

people.com

In an email to PEOPLE, the CBI confirmed that an investigation into Quintana’s death is ongoing. The organization said that when the search for Quintana began in 2023, it led to the discovery of the remains of two other people.

The remains of 26-year-old James Montoya were found in Saguache County that July, and authorities later learned that Montoya was murdered in the Denver area, per the CBI.

Then, in September 2023, CBI agents discovered the remains of 49-year-old Suzanne Morphew near the town of Moffat. Her husband, Barry Morphew, was indicted this year on June 18 on a first-degree murder charge, according to the organization.

 

[Megnut]

I too would love answers to these questions.

I will say I think his goal was that she be found. No way he risks moving her so she won't be found because at that point she hadn't been found so what made him think she would be? I don't know where the first burial was, but I can say where he put her was not well hidden. If he didn't want her found he could have went into the forest and dug a deep hole. He instead went right off a highway and barely buried her. I think he wanted her found or he never would have risked moving her.

Barry was fanatic about guarding his perimeter during Andy's search. That he'd exert the castle domain isn't shocking but it never sat right with me. People were searching for his missing wife and instead of welcoming it or being moved by it, he goes full Rambo, full fortress. And just like his head-shaking infomercial, he broadcasts tone deafness. Does he seriously have no idea how poorly he comes across?

Weird time to get all trespissy.

Was he protecting her burial site? Seems like. And if not that, how about the access point? He knew that territory like none other. I have long suspected that his two-week, off-grid, Bible-toting absences weren't far away a'tall. Plenty of time for dumpster dust-ups. Plus we know he tracked that mountain lion. I suspect he hoped to lure it to PP where he could shoot it, claim self-defense -- just protecting the fam he cared so much for. And then with a wink-wink, handshake-handshake, backscratch-backscratch, keep the hide, keep the cat, take credit as the hunter, stuff it and park it in his living room, God-granted dominion.

Chances are good he put his trail cams back up and IMO he could see if any two-legged animals were prowling in the direction of his missing Mrs.

So... either within his property line or a decent pitcher's stone's throw up the mountains behind PP. I would not be shocked to learn that Barry knew of a mine shaft with two entry points, perhaps one side marked and sealed, and well above the frost line.

Consider, if the State really did have a location in mind, under some 8 feet of packed snow, I have to think they hid a nice little camera in the area....

But if Barry, the mountain lion whisperer, had a back door, he may have removed her remains without ever touching thst mine entrance from the tip. I contend that Suzanne's body was in water, for at least a time. From ice melt that often exists as a tributary under a shelf of ice...

Did he move her before he sold PP?

That package debacle was not an honest mistake. If it were, he could easily have called the new owner, explained the situation and sent his proxy to retrieve it straightaway.

I think it was a test. To see if they had cameras, to see what would happen.

IMO Barry neeeeeeeeded access to thst property. For all we know, they ran similar tests from other corners, in order to find where the cameras were and weren't.

Picture any of those uninspired rock clusters at PP. Could well have been hiding a secret mine shaft Barry alone discovered. Making it truly the perfect place to conceal a body. For the very reason that he could access it by trapdoor if need be. If my theory holds.

No mention of predation on Suzanne's bones, though an indication they've been unearthed at Moffat. I don't think any four-legged animals did that. Or there would have been teeth marks IMO.... The only animal that touched her was the one she was married to.

His motivation? IMO same as always, done it his whole life -- money, money, money. Root of all evil and backbone of the man.

JMO

 

[Seattle1]

Remains of a 55-Year-Old Woman Found in Colorado, Over 2 Years After She Went Missing

The remains of a woman, 55-year-old Edna Quintana, who went missing while rock hunting in Colorado over two years ago in May 2023, have been found.

people.com

In an email to PEOPLE, the CBI confirmed that an investigation into Quintana’s death is ongoing. The organization said that when the search for Quintana began in 2023, it led to the discovery of the remains of two other people.

The remains of 26-year-old James Montoya were found in Saguache County that July, and authorities later learned that Montoya was murdered in the Denver area, per the CBI.

Then, in September 2023, CBI agents discovered the remains of 49-year-old Suzanne Morphew near the town of Moffat. Her husband, Barry Morphew, was indicted this year on June 18 on a first-degree murder charge, according to the organization.

Appending to this post to add, please recall that when Suzanne's remains were first located, IE wanted the world to believe that three "unknowns" who had also been dumped in the boneyard were located during summer 2023, AND Suzanne could have been a victim of SODDI, using the boneyard.

Except for the two (not three) victims of homicidal violence, including SM, were not "unknowns" but individuals with loved ones who immediately reported them missing to police and suspected foul play in their disappearance! For example, James Montoya, who was allegedly murdered in Denver on April 2, 2023, by a man named Jesus Arvizo, with ties to Saguache County, remains a fugitive of justice two years later.

Arvizo's associate was arrested and charged on Sept. 5, 2023, for first-degree murder after the fact in the death of Montoya. According to the Denver District Attorney's Office, the charges against Dominguez were dismissed in April 2024.

I believe the dismissal occurred under a cooperation agreement after she identified Arvizo and Murphy. MOO.

Edna went missing in May 2023 after going on a hike with her bf. He arrived home safely, and Edna allegedly left ahead of him-- on foot. IMO, BM wasn't involved in Edna's case, but I do believe BM knows people like Jesus Arvizo and Jan Franklin Murphy. Murphy was sentenced in May 2025 for helping Arvizo transport Montoya's body and “materially assisted” in concealing and burying Montoya’s remains in a remote area of the county.

Colorado family hopes son's killer will be caught 2 years after his murder

Two years after a Lakewood man went missing, the man Denver police believe murdered him is still on the loose.

www.cbsnews.com

5/2025- Saguache man pleads guilty, sentenced.

 

[Megnut]

Appending to this post to add, please recall that when Suzanne's remains were first located, IE wanted the world to believe that three "unknowns" who had also been dumped in the boneyard were located during summer 2023, AND Suzanne could have been a victim of SODDI, using the boneyard.

Except for the two (not three) victims of homicidal violence, including SM, were not "unknowns" but individuals with loved ones who immediately reported them missing to police and suspected foul play in their disappearance! For example, James Montoya, who was allegedly murdered in Denver on April 2, 2023, by a man named Jesus Arvizo, with ties to Saguache County, remains a fugitive of justice two years later.

Arvizo's associate was arrested and charged on Sept. 5, 2023, for first-degree murder after the fact in the death of Montoya. According to the Denver District Attorney's Office, the charges against Dominguez were dismissed in April 2024.

I believe the dismissal occurred under a cooperation agreement after she identified Arvizo and Murphy. MOO.

Edna went missing in May 2023 after going on a hike with her bf. He arrived home safely, and Edna allegedly left ahead of him-- on foot. IMO, BM wasn't involved in Edna's case, but I do believe BM knows people like Jesus Arvizo and Jan Franklin Murphy. Murphy was sentenced in May 2025 for helping Arvizo transport Montoya's body and “materially assisted” in concealing and burying Montoya’s remains in a remote area of the county.

Colorado family hopes son's killer will be caught 2 years after his murder

Two years after a Lakewood man went missing, the man Denver police believe murdered him is still on the loose.

www.cbsnews.com

5/2025- Saguache man pleads guilty, sentenced.

And there'll be zero evidence linking these other individuals to Suzanne Morphew.

JMO

 

[waldojabba]

It was Edna Quintana they were looking for ( there is a thread here).
Edna was not a hiker per her kids and siblings , none the less she supposedly went out on a hike with her boyfiriend in Sauguache County. Per the boyfriend - Edna went back to the car early and when he finished his hike she was not in the car and nowhere to be found.
I don't think it's far fetched that LE decided to look at the "boneyard" ( the area where SM was found)for Edna, as it was a well known dumping ground for bodies and located in the overall area she went missing.
Serendipity !

JMO

Thanks for all the shout outs that Edna’s remains had indeed been found.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Correct !There are laws against it. It is not allowed per law - Barry was charged and found guilty.
JMO

I think he pled guilty if I recall.

 

[DizzyB]

Barry was fanatic about guarding his perimeter during Andy's search. That he'd exert the castle domain isn't shocking but it never sat right with me. People were searching for his missing wife and instead of welcoming it or being moved by it, he goes full Rambo, full fortress. And just like his head-shaking infomercial, he broadcasts tone deafness. Does he seriously have no idea how poorly he comes across?

Weird time to get all trespissy.

Was he protecting her burial site? Seems like. And if not that, how about the access point? He knew that territory like none other. I have long suspected that his two-week, off-grid, Bible-toting absences weren't far away a'tall. Plenty of time for dumpster dust-ups. Plus we know he tracked that mountain lion. I suspect he hoped to lure it to PP where he could shoot it, claim self-defense -- just protecting the fam he cared so much for. And then with a wink-wink, handshake-handshake, backscratch-backscratch, keep the hide, keep the cat, take credit as the hunter, stuff it and park it in his living room, God-granted dominion.

Chances are good he put his trail cams back up and IMO he could see if any two-legged animals were prowling in the direction of his missing Mrs.

So... either within his property line or a decent pitcher's stone's throw up the mountains behind PP. I would not be shocked to learn that Barry knew of a mine shaft with two entry points, perhaps one side marked and sealed, and well above the frost line.

Consider, if the State really did have a location in mind, under some 8 feet of packed snow, I have to think they hid a nice little camera in the area....

But if Barry, the mountain lion whisperer, had a back door, he may have removed her remains without ever touching thst mine entrance from the tip. I contend that Suzanne's body was in water, for at least a time. From ice melt that often exists as a tributary under a shelf of ice...

Did he move her before he sold PP?

That package debacle was not an honest mistake. If it were, he could easily have called the new owner, explained the situation and sent his proxy to retrieve it straightaway.

I think it was a test. To see if they had cameras, to see what would happen.

IMO Barry neeeeeeeeded access to thst property. For all we know, they ran similar tests from other corners, in order to find where the cameras were and weren't.

Picture any of those uninspired rock clusters at PP. Could well have been hiding a secret mine shaft Barry alone discovered. Making it truly the perfect place to conceal a body. For the very reason that he could access it by trapdoor if need be. If my theory holds.

No mention of predation on Suzanne's bones, though an indication they've been unearthed at Moffat. I don't think any four-legged animals did that. Or there would have been teeth marks IMO.... The only animal that touched her was the one she was married to.

His motivation? IMO same as always, done it his whole life -- money, money, money. Root of all evil and backbone of the man.

JMO

I do believe that Suzanne’s body was somewhere near PP and missed during the initial search.

 

[Megnut]

I do believe that Suzanne’s body was somewhere near PP and missed during the initial search.

Easy enough to do if she was at the bottom of a sealed mine, one which BM could access from PP.

I wonder if he did some middle of the night landscaping at PP, to seal a second entrance in his signature fashion. A couple of three trees and a boulder.

JMO

 

[snooptroop88]

Barry was fanatic about guarding his perimeter during Andy's search. That he'd exert the castle domain isn't shocking but it never sat right with me. People were searching for his missing wife and instead of welcoming it or being moved by it, he goes full Rambo, full fortress. And just like his head-shaking infomercial, he broadcasts tone deafness. Does he seriously have no idea how poorly he comes across?

Weird time to get all trespissy.

Was he protecting her burial site? Seems like. And if not that, how about the access point? He knew that territory like none other. I have long suspected that his two-week, off-grid, Bible-toting absences weren't far away a'tall. Plenty of time for dumpster dust-ups. Plus we know he tracked that mountain lion. I suspect he hoped to lure it to PP where he could shoot it, claim self-defense -- just protecting the fam he cared so much for. And then with a wink-wink, handshake-handshake, backscratch-backscratch, keep the hide, keep the cat, take credit as the hunter, stuff it and park it in his living room, God-granted dominion.

Chances are good he put his trail cams back up and IMO he could see if any two-legged animals were prowling in the direction of his missing Mrs.

So... either within his property line or a decent pitcher's stone's throw up the mountains behind PP. I would not be shocked to learn that Barry knew of a mine shaft with two entry points, perhaps one side marked and sealed, and well above the frost line.

Consider, if the State really did have a location in mind, under some 8 feet of packed snow, I have to think they hid a nice little camera in the area....

But if Barry, the mountain lion whisperer, had a back door, he may have removed her remains without ever touching thst mine entrance from the tip. I contend that Suzanne's body was in water, for at least a time. From ice melt that often exists as a tributary under a shelf of ice...

Did he move her before he sold PP?

That package debacle was not an honest mistake. If it were, he could easily have called the new owner, explained the situation and sent his proxy to retrieve it straightaway.

I think it was a test. To see if they had cameras, to see what would happen.

IMO Barry neeeeeeeeded access to thst property. For all we know, they ran similar tests from other corners, in order to find where the cameras were and weren't.

Picture any of those uninspired rock clusters at PP. Could well have been hiding a secret mine shaft Barry alone discovered. Making it truly the perfect place to conceal a body. For the very reason that he could access it by trapdoor if need be. If my theory holds.

No mention of predation on Suzanne's bones, though an indication they've been unearthed at Moffat. I don't think any four-legged animals did that. Or there would have been teeth marks IMO.... The only animal that touched her was the one she was married to.

His motivation? IMO same as always, done it his whole life -- money, money, money. Root of all evil and backbone of the man.

JMO

All of this makes total sense. The freezing-- that would do it, honestly, with the feet aspect of this. Body of water, yep. And agreed, if LE thought they knew a certain spot, a camera? And the package with the idea of him checking for
cameras-- what a great point. But the bleaching, that part I'm wondering about. Would sunlight come through a mineshaft? Just checked, not a deep one. But maybe he found something more shallow. And if not a mineshaft, maybe some other structure or form on the property. And/or maybe there are chemicals involved. The thing is, though, we know killers tend not to bury in their backyards, at least the smarter ones avoid it. When they interviewed Osswald, he said BM wouldn't have had the remains on his property. But I mean Gacy did it dozens of times over, it's still very possible, and this post really makes me wonder on it more than ever, with the note about how resistant BM was to "incursions" upon his "property"-- when they were searching for his missing wife. One would think if there was nothing amiss on the property, he'd be especially welcoming. There was something to hide there. Was it actual remains, or did he fear he just missed some "important detail"? (This post has convinced me that maybe it actually WAS remains. He told Morgan he could hide a body where nobody would ever find it, but he evidently couldn't because he ended up moving the remains. He's either not as smart as he'd like to be or else he had to move remains because they were located at property over which he was losing control.)

Seeing this in source about human bodies submerged in bodies of water: A body goes into the water, the person sinks. Nature takes its course, there's microbial decomposition and acquatic animals at the remains, skeleton gets disconnected and the parts spread a bit over ocean floor. BUT if body goes in fully clothed, that means socks & shoes, and those block the decomposition process somewhat while keeping these small bones together. Modern shoes are lightweight with foam, and they'll bob up to the surface with remains still inside once the feet are disarticulated from heavier skeletal parts. This whole process can take weeks, but might be talking months or years.

What's up with disembodied feet in shoes found floating in bodies of water?

You go out for a walk at your local waterfront or head out on the boat to catch a few fish, and you see a shoe floating in the water. Curious, you pick it up an

cbsaustin.com

Could this also possibly be a part of what happened, with the body weighted down in some more (maybe significantly more) shallow body of water? Suzanne's remains had no bug activity, I'm seeing that this is standard with submerged remains; the "bug activity" is extremely different from the standard, and it's much less extensive. And lack of bug activity would be particularly true with presence of sulfur. There was that reek of chlorine, that was both in the house and the hotel. Maybe it was to mask a very distinctive, powerful, and unattractive odor like sulfur/sulfuric acid. I'm seeing that landscapers will sometimes use it. I still think somehow, sulfur's involved in this. Creepily, Moffat's really close to sulfuric springs, and the stuff reeks. If the victim's remains broke down in such a scenario, we'd probably be seeing a different rate for decomposition for the feet with shoewear involved. But how would he have retrieved the remains for relocation in such a scenario? This would have to be a very shallow body of water indeed. But many of them in Colorado are, where they have these sulphuric springs, based on what I see. I can't help but suspect sulfur, and a geothermal spring would bleach bones with sun exposure. If he left the property & traveled for this, he did it with a vehicle minus telematics, I would think. The phone was in airplane mode. It's that chlorine smell that makes me wonder, and he dumped his own shoes, too, did he plod through the same malodorous substance that he was theoretically trying to conceal with the chlorine? And all the changing of his shirts is perhaps in hopes that he can get the smell to fade completely.

Am wondering too if (?) the "wrappers" at the McDonalds dump/bank video was Suzanne's phone. Phones from a distance have a shiny type of look to them. They could also themselves be enclosed in wrappers. But it would seem possible, too, the phone ended up in one of the holes he was digging for trees on his property around that time. And was Suzanne's leather journal part of his cost-effective "trash runs"?

All just speculation. But there's this lingering question for me now of why BM would miss the "opportunity" of letting others scour his property-- if there were nothing to hide. Is there some unique feature, somewhat concealed, not obvious... on that property that would have made these scenarios possible? That's the question the original post raises for me, and it's a really great question, jmo.

 

[Megnut]

All of this makes total sense. The freezing-- that would do it, honestly, with the feet aspect of this. Body of water, yep. And agreed, if LE thought they knew a certain spot, a camera? And the package with the idea of him checking for
cameras-- what a great point. But the bleaching, that part I'm wondering about. Would sunlight come through a mineshaft? Just checked, not a deep one. But maybe he found something more shallow. And if not a mineshaft, maybe some other structure or form on the property. And/or maybe there are chemicals involved. The thing is, though, we know killers tend not to bury in their backyards, at least the smarter ones avoid it. When they interviewed Osswald, he said BM wouldn't have had the remains on his property. But I mean Gacy did it dozens of times over, it's still very possible, and this post really makes me wonder on it more than ever, with the note about how resistant BM was to "incursions" upon his "property"-- when they were searching for his missing wife. One would think if there was nothing amiss on the property, he'd be especially welcoming. There was something to hide there. Was it actual remains, or did he fear he just missed some "important detail"? (This post has convinced me that maybe it actually WAS remains. He told Morgan he could hide a body where nobody would ever find it, but he evidently couldn't because he ended up moving the remains. He's either not as smart as he'd like to be or else he had to move remains because they were located at property over which he was losing control.)

Seeing this in source about human bodies submerged in bodies of water: A body goes into the water, the person sinks. Nature takes its course, there's microbial decomposition and acquatic animals at the remains, skeleton gets disconnected and the parts spread a bit over ocean floor. BUT if body goes in fully clothed, that means socks & shoes, and those block the decomposition process somewhat while keeping these small bones together. Modern shoes are lightweight with foam, and they'll bob up to the surface with remains still inside once the feet are disarticulated from heavier skeletal parts. This whole process can take weeks, but might be talking months or years.

What's up with disembodied feet in shoes found floating in bodies of water?

You go out for a walk at your local waterfront or head out on the boat to catch a few fish, and you see a shoe floating in the water. Curious, you pick it up an

cbsaustin.com

Could this also possibly be a part of what happened, with the body weighted down in some more (maybe significantly more) shallow body of water? Suzanne's remains had no bug activity, I'm seeing that this is standard with submerged remains; the "bug activity" is extremely different from the standard, and it's much less extensive. And lack of bug activity would be particularly true with presence of sulfur. There was that reek of chlorine, that was both in the house and the hotel. Maybe it was to mask a very distinctive, powerful, and unattractive odor like sulfur/sulfuric acid. I'm seeing that landscapers will sometimes use it. I still think somehow, sulfur's involved in this. Creepily, Moffat's really close to sulfuric springs, and the stuff reeks. If the victim's remains broke down in such a scenario, we'd probably be seeing a different rate for decomposition for the feet with shoewear involved. But how would he have retrieved the remains for relocation in such a scenario? This would have to be a very shallow body of water indeed. But many of them in Colorado are, where they have these sulphuric springs, based on what I see. I can't help but suspect sulfur, and a geothermal spring would bleach bones with sun exposure. If he left the property & traveled for this, he did it with a vehicle minus telematics, I would think. The phone was in airplane mode. It's that chlorine smell that makes me wonder, and he dumped his own shoes, too, did he plod through the same malodorous substance that he was theoretically trying to conceal with the chlorine? And all the changing of his shirts is perhaps in hopes that he can get the smell to fade completely.

Am wondering too if (?) the "wrappers" at the McDonalds dump/bank video was Suzanne's phone. Phones from a distance have a shiny type of look to them. They could also themselves be enclosed in wrappers. But it would seem possible, too, the phone ended up in one of the holes he was digging for trees on his property around that time. And was Suzanne's leather journal part of his cost-effective "trash runs"?

All just speculation. But there's this lingering question for me now of why BM would miss the "opportunity" of letting others scour his property-- if there were nothing to hide. Is there some unique feature, somewhat concealed, not obvious... on that property that would have made these scenarios possible? That's the question the original post raises for me, and it's a really great question, jmo.

Come to think of it, they didn't say all the bones were bleached, did they?

If he staged the Moffat burial, then he disturbed it, presumably leaving bones exposed to the elements. Maybe it's just those which were bleached, baked by the Colorado sun.

I think he hurled her phone in the direction of her bike, after thoroughly pulverizing it. IMO he would have wanted it found. Unreadable but found.

Hence the drenched water search. He thought it must have landed in the water and that's why LE missed it.

Wouldn't it be something if LE did recover her phone but has kept that delicious secret for trial? How out of place would a completely obliterated cellphone be alongside a gently tossed bicycle?

I don't think Suzanne was submerged in a body of water. If she was in a mineshaft that never completely thawed, it would only be icemelt running through... icy water... maybe not a lot of microcritters in it.

I think he buried her naked.

I think small bones disarticulated first and were carried away by moving slush farther down a minepath and reburied, naturally in silt and ice...

I think he did stink after whatever he did. Maybe like mineshaft, whatever smell that might be.

Probably "showered" right there in the driveway with the spa chemicals which is why HE smelled of bleach.

JMO