CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #12

[TxJan1971]

No, no. Sadly, I don't think Dylan was alive for very long after his arrival that night. I don't think anyone is hiding him nor do I think that he is intentionally staying away.

Something happened to separate him from his phone, from his ability to call or text for help. I'm just trying to think of the possibilities -- for example, father threw it out the window; whatever happened (whether in the car or elsewhere) happened fast and Dylan had no time; Dylan could not get a signal where he was.

I'm just trying to think through it.

If I am to be totally honest, I try to convince myself every day that Dylan ran away and is hiding out with friends or even possibly out there all on his own trying to come to terms with the life he has been dealt and all the animosity, etc. I even envision him telling himself that he is just going to stay away from everyone and not be found so he doesn't have to deal with it anymore . I TRY to convince myself this, because thinking of what may have happened otherwise is too painful for me... But I do realize that this is most likely not what happened....

 

[LotusPawprint]

Hmmmm ... Something just popped into my head that I haven't seen posted here before (but apologies in advance if it has and I missed it somewhere in the 147 different threads ).

Many threads ago I speculated that there could have been an argument in the car on the drive home from the airport -- possibly Dylan (being a normal teenager) was expressing his displeasure at being there by ignoring his father by playing on his phone (or simply ignoring his father in general because he didn't want to be there) -- and an argument ensued and the father snapped.

What if -- and I'm purely speculating here -- what if there was an argument, but instead of becoming physically violent, the father snapped, stopped the car, and told Dylan to get out, thinking he would "scare" him into an attitude adjustment. ("You don't want to be here? Then get out and go back to your mother!")

When he went back to get him, he was gone. And now he doesn't want to admit what he did.

Again, purely speculating and throwing out what might be a new idea.

ETA: Lest anyone misunderstand the intent of my words, telling a teenager to get out of the car at night in the winter is a violent act, imo, but different than direct physical violent contact. That's all I meant.

147 threads?? That's all you've read? You've missed the other half! lol


I'm with you on this line of thinking. Of course LE knows MR's exact account of what happened that night with the cell phone and everything else and they have the pings, etc. We don't have that luxury so we're left to speculate.

Imo there are several scenarios where MR could've done something rotten, like what you suggested, or tossing the cell or smashing it or taking it from Dylan. Maybe he withheld that information from LE initially trying to make the story sound better and dug himself a hole. Maybe he's continued to stick with that story or maybe he's come clean and LE can verify what he's saying, so they understand he may have done something wrong but nothing too sinister.


I think if MR is being dishonest about anything to coverup a minor mistake (like tossing the cell out of the truck), he's doing himself a disservice. Essentially he could mitigate much of the negative focus on him if he explained what happened, imo. But this is just a whole bunch of hypotheticals and it's my attempt at keeping hope that MR has nothing to do with his son's disappearance in the hopes that Dylan is alive and waiting to be found somewhere.

 

[jjenny]

Did MR say Dylan was the 'light of his life'? I know it was reportedly said 'out like a light'. What's with the 'light' reference (s)?

He certainly said Dylan was the light of his life.

 

[mmmagique]

Did MR say Dylan was the 'light of his life'? I know it was reportedly said 'out like a light'. What's with the 'light' reference (s)?

Yes, he said it in that uncut video. It stood out to me because a day or so before, Corey had stated that Dylan was the light of his and his mom's life. I found it interesting that dad chose the same verbiage.

 

[packerdog]

As I posted waaaay back, I think MR threw Dylan's phone out the window while driving. That is when an argument got heated between the two. MR could have pulled over and........ I hate to think what happened next. This is what makes sense to me,any way.

 

[Confusion]

If I am to be totally honest, I try to convince myself every day that Dylan ran away and is hiding out with friends or even possibly out there all on his own trying to come to terms with the life he has been dealth and all the animosity, etc. I even envision him telling himself that he is just going to stay away from everyone and not be found so he doesn't have to deal with it anymore . I TRY to convince myself this, because thinking of what may have happened otherwise is too painful for me... But I do realize that this is most likely not what happened....

I'm a lot the same way, but it gets harder every day to convince myself that it's even possible. The thing I have a hard time with (and many others seem to have the same problem) is not projecting the feelings/thoughts/actions of someone from my own life onto any of the participants. As much as I keep trying to convince myself that he could still be fine, I also have to work even harder to keep reminding myself that he isn't my son and suicide is not a probable theory.

 

[Confusion]

Yes, he said it in that uncut video. It stood out to me because a day or so before, Corey had stated that Dylan was the light of his and his mom's life. I found it interesting that dad chose the same verbiage.

Dad actually said it first, before Cory had said anything publicly. MOO

 

[mmmagique]

I'm a lot the same way, but it gets harder every day to convince myself that it's even possible. The thing I have a hard time with (and many others seem to have the same problem) is not projecting the feelings/thoughts/actions of someone from my own life onto any of the participants. As much as I keep trying to convince myself that he could still be fine, I also have to work even harder to keep reminding myself that he isn't my son and suicide is not a probable theory.

I will be very surprised if suicide is the case, but then again, teenagers have raging hormones and don't always know how to handle all that life throws them.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I'm a lot the same way, but it gets harder every day to convince myself that it's even possible. The thing I have a hard time with (and many others seem to have the same problem) is not projecting the feelings/thoughts/actions of someone from my own life onto any of the participants. As much as I keep trying to convince myself that he could still be fine, I also have to work even harder to keep reminding myself that he isn't my son and suicide is not a probable theory.

Confusion, I am soooo so sorry you lost your son to suicide.


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[JaimeSommers]

Jaime, one other thing I forgot is that LE is calling this a "criminal" investigation which kind of rules out their belief that Dylan may have walked into the woods and fell victim to the elements. Is this scenario possible? Yes. But all we have at the moment is that LE is calling this a criminal investigation.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...edwines-father-does-not-call-father-a-suspect

Oh, you're right! Sorry, I blanked on that important detail. Thank you for the reminder.

 

[Confusion]

Confusion, I am soooo so sorry you lost your son to suicide.

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I didn't actually lose him, but it's been close a few times. First time was at 11, and he hit himself in the head with a hammer repeatedly, Luckily, he just ended up with a lot of bumps and bruises. He's also slit down the inside of his forearm (because wrists don't bleed enough) cutting an artery and needed over 100 stitches), but was living less than 5 minutes from the hospital, taken bottles of OTC pills (enough to make his BP and pulse so high they were afraid he'd have a heart attack at 18.) Luckily, he's doing much better now. Thanks for the comment though.

 

[mmmagique]

Dad actually said it first, before Cory had said anything publicly. MOO

Huh. That's weird. I saw CR say it at a vigil, and then heard MR say it on a newscast a week or so later.

You could very well be right though, it's difficult to keep all these things straight.

 

[asyousay]

Oh I think he is not ruled out or named as a suspect at this time. But I think he is definitely on their radar.
Imo

Thanks and i would certainly hope so . It is all very strange and i just hope for a happy ending. But even if he had gotten lost or fallen and broken a leg on the Monday how would he of survived for weeks on end?!.

 

[Confusion]

Huh. That's weird. I saw CR say it at a vigil, and then heard MR say it on a newscast a week or so later.

You could very well be right though, it's difficult to keep all these things straight.

I believe it was one of the first things he said, and he got ripped apart here for it. He never should have said he WAS he light of his life. MOO

 

[mmmagique]

Oh, you're right! Sorry, I blanked on that important detail. Thank you for the reminder.

But wouldn't it be considered criminal to leave a 13 year old all alone out in the woods? Especially if he didn't have his cell, or the person who did it had reason to believe it wouldn't pick up a signal there?

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Was just checking the scanner thread. So they are searching Vallecito Lake today too?

 

[TxJan1971]

Oh, you're right! Sorry, I blanked on that important detail. Thank you for the reminder.

No problem! I'm always forgetting but knowing I read something "somewhere"! Glad to be of help.

 

[JaimeSommers]

As I posted waaaay back, I think MR threw Dylan's phone out the window while driving. That is when an argument got heated between the two. MR could have pulled over and........ I hate to think what happened next. This is what makes sense to me,any way.

You and I are on the same page, p-dog. I posted that, too, many threads back. Whether MR had anything to do with his son vanishing or not, there does seem to be evidence of an inability to manage his emotions in a healthy way. I could see the phone getting tossed even if it's unrelated to Dylan disappearing. If MR lacks the ability to be self-reflective and accountable for his actions, I can also see him withholding that piece of info for fear it would (wrongly or rightly) incriminate him. Just my opinion.

 

[LotusPawprint]

If today's search doesn't bring any answers, I'd like to see LE amp up the gameplan.

Snow is in the forecast.

We know from 12/6:

Since the warrant was served, the search for Dylan has pared back as far as the numbers of law enforcement
officers working
the case.
But dozens of investigators from the La Plata County Sheriff's Office, Durango police, the FBI and other agencies continue to investigate tips each day, he said.


I feel like we're at a crossroads- this investigation could go quiet, LE could step up the pressure, or they could change their gameplan.

On 12/6, Sgt. Bender said, “We're left with kidnapping and foul play” ... They obviously can't put out an Amber Alert and if they have no leads and Dylan is hours or states away, it seems they need to change the approach. Get the message out, get in front of the story,... something.


I have an idea.... how about a PRESS CONFERENCE?????

 

[jjenny]

MR claims he was texting Dylan on Monday. So, if one believes what MR says, MR had to think Dylan's phone was in perfect working order.