CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #15

[Ransom]

Dylan wanted to go visit his friends on Sunday after he arrived. He had to change that plan because MR decided it was too late. So the plan to go visit friends starting Monday was only made on Sunday after Dylan already arrived at his father's.

I know that. Dylan's friends knew the plans changed to Monday morning. According to dad, he was going to stay with them Monday and Tuesday. That's could explain why all his things were packed or a few left behind. That's all.

 

[jjenny]

Dylan could have told him?

Using what?

 

[SmoothOperator]

maybe Dylan was awake and didn't want to leave with Dad because he had other plans?

this was my train of thought early on.. as in Dylan deliberately did not want, nor intend to go with dad on his errands..

as I said this was very early on prior to us even knowing if dad was aware of the morning plans between Dylan and his friends.. so, at that point I thought that possibly Dylan had made these plans on the downlow unbeknownst to dad..and waited for dad to leave the house before he snuck off to be with friends..

for me this began to dissolve as we learned that dad was in the know about the plans with friends..even to the extent that he had been the one to tell Dylan that the plans had to be changed and that Dylan would not be going to meet up with friends Sunday evening, but rather the next day..which as we know then led to the plan of dad giving Dylan a ride to the friends early morning Monday(6:30am) before dad was set to be in Durango for his early morning appt with lawyer and running errands..

 

[jennapuppy]

I played with the idea of Dylan having other plans for awhile, but I do feel like something would have emerged by now. I do still think it is possible someone dropped by.

Someone that MR knows could have stopped by looking for him, gets into a convo with Dylan, offers to give him a ride...

 

[jjenny]

I know that. Dylan's friends knew the plans changed to Monday morning. According to dad, he was going to stay with them Monday and Tuesday. That's could explain why all his things were packed or a few left behind. That's all.

Did he ever unpack?

 

[Ransom]

He must have magic telepathic powers.

His friends knew and they "could" have told someone else, etc. We just don't know and are just trying to think outside the box here.

 

[Ransom]

Did he ever unpack?

Beats me.

 

[Crosby87]

omg could a vehicle have been swapped from personal to a work one?

we know they are supposed to be near that location on the sunday night most likely around the time that Dylans phone went off

is it plausible? it could be if nothing was found on or in MRs vehicles

We don't know if MR was working there and if so, what position he held; but we heard he dropped papers off there Monday morning.

Does this company operate 24/7 and have surveillance cameras or a security gate etc?

 

[jjenny]

His friends knew and they "could" have told someone else, etc. We just don't know and are just trying to think outside the box here.

Friends would be expecting Dylan show up Monday morning. They had no idea his father was going to go on his errands without taking Dylan to Bayfield.

 

[katydid23]

Maybe he expected to be back before MR was.


!

If he expected to be back before his dad arrived, then why take all of his belongings with him?

And he couldn't have gone to the lake to fish then, because that is 4 miles away.

So I can't figure out where he would go, while taking all of his stuff, and planning to be back by 11.

 

[Ransom]

Friends would be expecting Dylan show up Monday morning. They had no idea his father was going to go on his errands without taking Dylan to Bayfield.

His friends knew and expected him that morning. His friends said they tried to text him. They could have asked someone to go get him, etc.

 

[jjenny]

His friends knew and expected him that morning. His friends said they tried to text him. They could have asked someone to go get him, etc.

Considering he never responded, why would they ask someone to go get him?

 

[tiredblondy]

I know that every kid is different. Maybe Dylan is a lot like your son then. Mine wouldn't do that because he knew I would embarrass him by calling out the cops and rescue dogs to look for him if he left with no note or message, if we had plans of me coming to pick him up. :wink:

Your son would assume you knew where he was. But he lived with you every day in the same house. You knew his routine. But I don't think Dylan spent that much time with his dad. How would he expect his dad to know where he went?

Well they had discussed it and dad had told him he'd take him to his friends when he got back. I think Dylan thought of Bayfield as home. He'd lived there all his life till he moved about a year ago, right?

Dylan and his mother Elaine and brother Cory moved to Colorado Springs last summer, but they are originally from the Bayfield area, about 25 miles from where Dylan went missing.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...in-bayfield-area-for-missing-dylan-redwine-13

MR said he knew Dylans friends were important to him.

His priority was pretty much with his friends, so I wasn't alarmed," Mark said.

Dylan had asked his father whether he could go to his friends' that evening after they had shopped at Walmart and eaten at a McDonald's in Durango and before the 45-minute drive to Mark's home north of Vallecito Lake. Mark said he told his son it was too late. So Dylan texted friends in Bayfield, his father said, and made arrangements to meet them the next morning.

Read more: With Dylan Redwine missing for almost two weeks, dad clings to hope - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/frontpage/ci_22108222?source=rss#ixzz2EoRCY4wR
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I have to say the picture of MR at this article makes my heart ache for him.

I can only speak of what I feel and think. I can't convince anyone to believe the way I do but until an abduction is ruled out I cannot get off the fence.

Dad's and Sons have a different relationship than Mom's and sons. My son would tell my ex I was driving him crazy. He would turn off his cell so I couldn't text him. He always said I was too mothering???

 

[Salem]

Someone he met on the plane and gave the address to?

Or someone from town that he was acquianted with. Maybe someone that had been fishing with him before - either with his friends or his dad? Someone that maybe sent him a few texts or emails after he moved away or after the Labor Day visit. I think there are probably a few folks that could be considered.

What happened during the Labor Day visit? How did Dylan and Dad spend their time? Was Dylan with his friends all the time? Did Dylan and Dad go to a picnic or Labor Day event in the area, where Dylan might have made a new friend? Or met one of Dad's friends/acquaintances? I really think it was someone Dylan knew, maybe not well, but had met before.

Salem

 

[Confusion]

Oregon rescue officials said a ping from a family cell phone was critical in narrowing the search for the James Kim family in the mountains of Southern Oregon last week. James Kim died of hypothermia, but his wife and their two children were rescued.

This week, rescue workers are again working with cell phone signals - this time in their search for three climbers who've gone missing on Mount Hood.

A phone must be on and in a coverage area to register a ping, either by sending or receiving a signal. Once a ping is registered, a cell phone provider can narrow the location of a handset based on the location of the receiving cell towers.

This is about a lost family found by tracking pings, and I'm hoping it's a credible site.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/4908701.html

 

[cluciano63]

If Dylan's phone stopped working or would not charge on Sunday night-he would have told his father. He would have wanted a new phone, or a loaner or something. Clearly if his father was texting him on Monday, he did not know of any problem with Dylan's phone, if he is telling the truth. Phone stopping working does not work for me.

As far as someone knowing he was coming to town to visit his Dad, why on earth would they think he might be home alone at any time, much less the very first morning, to come by and abduct him?

 

[aust amateur slueth]

I know that. Dylan's friends knew the plans changed to Monday morning. According to dad, he was going to stay with them Monday and Tuesday. That's could explain why all his things were packed or a few left behind. That's all.

IIRC nothing was said about him staying overnight with the friends for monday night, rather that Dylan was going to spend time with them monday and tuesday and on wednesday MR, Dylan and dylans friends were going to do an activity that hadn't been decided on but could be bowling

 

[SmoothOperator]

I'm not sure about that. Everything I've read says that a phone stops pinging when it's turned off or the battery dies. Maybe it depends on the phone?
moo

yes, IMO you're correct that its all dependant on what phone we're talking about.. some do continue to be trackable even when powered off .. but some phones once powered off are no longer trackable ..

moo but if I were to hazard a guess it'd be my best guess to say Dylan's phone was likely untrackable (<--is that even a word?..lol) once the phone is powered off.. what IMO lends credence to this being true is that the close family friend, DH(admin of FindDylan FB) has stated that Dylan's phone did not have GPS..mom tells us it was a flip phone..and well imoo that would have me guess in all likelihood his cell is a phone that when simply powered off it renders it useless as far as tracing/tracking..

jmo.

 

[tiredblondy]

Did he ever unpack?

Why? He was going to stay with his friends, I think for 2 days.?

I'm gonna have to look that link up aren't I?

 

[katydid23]

sort of goes along with what dad said:
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R: Can you tell me about your plans for Thanksgiving?

M: Well, because he was with me for such a short period of time, we had touched on a few things. One of the things was we talked about going to my brother David's house in Castle Rock. Um, I know his friends were important to him so we were wanting to make sure he had adequate time with his friends. Um, you know basically the plan was Monday and Tuesday he would spend with his friends. Maybe Wednesday, you know we had talked a little bit about going bowling or doing something as an activity, not with just me and him, his friends included. Then we would have Thanksgiving day to ourselves. Or there was a possibility we would travel and get to my brother's house. So, you know, none of that ever got finalized. I mean, we were just focusing on the next day and what we were going to do and how that was going to take place. That's as far as we really ever got. You know, his friends are important to him and I certainly don't expect him to spend a whole week with me when he's got, he's grown up in this community and he's got tons of people who love and care about him.

BBM: That's why he was all packed up to go. JMO.

If he thought he was spending the night, then why did he go at 4:30 and say ' where is my son?'

I will try and explain it better:

when I ask why Dad wasnt more concerned when he came home at 11, and Dylan was gone, people say because he figured he got a ride and everything was fine.

Well then, why did he tell people that he went to look for him and then went to Bayfield?

Why didn't he go immediately to see if he made it to his friends? Thats what I dont get.