CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #16

[Confusion]

That is a given but he could not do anything as he had no leads or anything so calling her via the phone would not of changed a thing and would of delayed him about 5 mins as he explained he was going to the police .


Anyhoo i wont say anymore on it as i do not want to keep going on

Thank you

 

[mmmagique]

Could she have done more to help find him than the Marshall could?

She is his mother.

*I* as a mother, would expect to be given the courtesy of a phone call as soon as you suspect my child is missing. Anything less is...bizarre. (imo)

 

[azgrandma]

Is it true that Elaine could not get hold of MR after she was told he was missing ??

Her original statements to ABC and others were that both she and CR have texted MR but he would not respond

 

[Confusion]

She is his mother.

*I* as a mother, would expect to be given the courtesy of a phone call as soon as you suspect my child is missing. Anything less is...bizarre. (imo)

You may find it bizarre, but it's not illegal and doesn't mean he's guilty of murder. MOO

 

[mmmagique]

You may find it bizarre, but it's not illegal and doesn't mean he's guilty of murder. MOO

It's not illegal, and it may not prove he's guilty, but it does add to my suspicions.

 

[azgrandma]

I'm not sure I would return the texts of someone who beat me unconscious either.

To your own son?! IMO this is not the time or event to be stubborn, your child is missing and IMO it doesn't matter what your feelings are about your ex, or the fact that your 18 you son knocked you out cold (which really sounds strange that he said he was out for hours - that had to have been one heck of a blow by an 18 yo) You talk with your ex, you talk with your child. You talk to the next door neighbor, the person at the store, the mailman, everyone. But most importantly, you keep contact with the people most closely involved. You don't play ignore games, it's not the time. IMO

 

[rebeccaeee]

Just came in from my mid morning walk around the work building and remembered how I consciously do NOT walk the same route at the same time every day so as to avoid becoming someone's prey. In lots of stranger abductions, those strangers are checking out routes, scouting people, fishing for victims. In Dylan's scenario, he is at a home where he does not normally reside, in a town he no longer lives, on a rural "one way in, one way out" road where someone would have to have a reason to be there (and yes, I know, stalking certainly is reason enough for some). On a day (if we're talking Monday morning) where lots of people are on holiday schedule (since school was out all week- I checked their calendar). Not an ideal scenario for a total stranger abduction. Only leaves crime of opportunity or a not-so-stranger (known adult from town) or MR. I certainly hope LE has checked out other known adults. I have my firm suspicions that Monday morning isn't when Dylan disappeared but I'm trying hard to climb up on the fence and see how it feels.

The Bayfield school district page http://www.bayfield.k12.co.us/ has a nice blurb of support for Dylan's family front and center of the page. Makes me hopeful that the community support is founded in some truth and action and that they will not be forgetting about Dylan.

 

[Darcyline]

Confusion-I am very happy your son came home. Not only because it is always great news when a child is safe, but also because you probably would have been a hated, detested suspect #1 if he didn't come home and all of your actions seen as horrific and suspicious. It really illuminates JUST how hard having a missing child can be, to me.
For the record, we had multiple instances like that in our family (when my brother and I were the kids) and my parents never killed either of us either. They only went to the police once and then were told the same as you-go home and wait.

 

[azgrandma]

Not according to his ex-wives, but one son did fly there to give him support shortly after DR disappeared. I'm sure everybody can read that however they want.

Not necessarily to give him support, the fb and GCU article all show the son had a relationship with ER and was trying to figure out who MR was.

 

[Donjeta]

To your own son?! IMO this is not the time or event to be stubborn, your child is missing and IMO it doesn't matter what your feelings are about your ex, or the fact that your 18 you son knocked you out cold (which really sounds strange that he said he was out for hours - that had to have been one heck of a blow by an 18 yo) You talk with your ex, you talk with your child. You talk to the next door neighbor, the person at the store, the mailman, everyone. But most importantly, you keep contact with the people most closely involved. You don't play ignore games, it's not the time. IMO

Many 18 year olds are adult size and can deliver killing blows.

Look, I'm pretty sure that most people who have as much dysfunctional family history as this family seems to are not people who are always capable of doing the rational, constructive thing in stressful times.

 

[Bravo]

In the beginning, she said that he had sent her a text asking her if she had talked to Dylan, she said she said no and asked why she should have. He said that he couldn't find him, and she said they should call the police. He either was at the Marshall's office or went right after texting with her, and she called the sherriff's Office right away. I see nothing wrong with any of that. MOO

Me either. Except he could have text back what his current situation was. I'm with LE or on my way there etc. etc. Did days not pass and there was no communication?

 

[Irish_Eyes]

To your own son?! IMO this is not the time or event to be stubborn, your child is missing and IMO it doesn't matter what your feelings are about your ex, or the fact that your 18 you son knocked you out cold (which really sounds strange that he said he was out for hours - that had to have been one heck of a blow by an 18 yo) You talk with your ex, you talk with your child. You talk to the next door neighbor, the person at the store, the mailman, everyone. But most importantly, you keep contact with the people most closely involved. You don't play ignore games, it's not the time. IMO

I believe he fought with his son. I do not believe for one second he was out for "hours" without needing serious medical attention.

 

[Crosby87]

It was reported by Elaine that she and Cory texted Dad. Dad did not return the text. To either one.

I am going by what Elaine Redwine told Nancy Grace

<snipped>

GRACE: Everyone, taking your calls is Dylan`s mother. Now, Ms. Redwine, was -- did there come a time when you learned that Dylan was missing? How did that happen?

REDWINE: Well, his dad texted me at around, oh, 4:30. Maybe it was closer to 5:00 on Monday. And I texted him back. You know, it was like, Well, we should call the sheriff. So I went ahead and I actually called the sheriff that day. I don`t know if Mark had called the sheriff that day, either, but I called the sheriff right after I got the text from Mark.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/03/ng.01.html

 

[kkdj]

I believe he fought with his son. I do not believe for one second he was out for "hours" without needing serious medical attention.

Wasn't dad intoxicated? Maybe he was sleeping it off!

 

[asyousay]

I am going by what Elaine Redwine told Nancy Grace

<snipped>

GRACE: Everyone, taking your calls is Dylan`s mother. Now, Ms. Redwine, was -- did there come a time when you learned that Dylan was missing? How did that happen?

REDWINE: Well, his dad texted me at around, oh, 4:30. Maybe it was closer to 5:00 on Monday. And I texted him back. You know, it was like, Well, we should call the sheriff. So I went ahead and I actually called the sheriff that day. I don`t know if Mark had called the sheriff that day, either, but I called the sheriff right after I got the text from Mark.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/03/ng.01.html

Just to quote this , it would seem then they are not in contact or she would of known this.

 

[DylansMom34]

I am going by what Elaine Redwine told Nancy Grace

<snipped>

GRACE: Everyone, taking your calls is Dylan`s mother. Now, Ms. Redwine, was -- did there come a time when you learned that Dylan was missing? How did that happen?

REDWINE: Well, his dad texted me at around, oh, 4:30. Maybe it was closer to 5:00 on Monday. And I texted him back. You know, it was like, Well, we should call the sheriff. So I went ahead and I actually called the sheriff that day. I don`t know if Mark had called the sheriff that day, either, but I called the sheriff right after I got the text from Mark.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/03/ng.01.html

Maybe Mark texted the Sheriff... :floorlaugh:

 

[Donjeta]

Just to quote this , it would seem then they are not in contact or she would of known this.

Wasn't it in the news right from the start that he had reported Dylan missing? Ellen Jostad in that very show knows that anyway

Finally, when he couldn`t reach him at his friends` house, he reported him missing at about 6:00 PM that night.

 

[demetra]

I cant get why texting mom would be any different than calling her? He had only been missing a few hours at this point not days,I think MR wanted to know had DR contacted her and told her where he maybe going,why call ER just to ask that when they don't get along?Maybe texting was the way the two of them normally communicate.Even in a tragedy some people are not going to stand together not even if there child is missing,and him not taking her calls or text does not mean he is not looking for DR it only proves he isn't communicating with her,but LE said he has been communicating fully with them.

 

[Abby Normal Again]

I give up. LE and FBI are trained, educated, and have 50 times more facts than us- and yet we "know" more than they do. Is that weird to anyone else?

One thing I like about websleuths is that we are victim friendly forum. LE delivered a search warrant, which is normal, and seem to have found nothing. They have not further honed in on him, they are still exploring other scenarios. Yes, they searched his home and truck but not until WAY after they usually do. It was not their first instinct or indication in this case.

IMO MR is a victim until they find something indicating otherwise, and I hope we eventually go back to treating him in a victim friendly manner.

MOO

 

[azgrandma]

How can it be a cop out by him, I've never seen/heard him say it. Why do you think he should be clear headed, rationally thinking with the patience of a saint at a time like that? Dylan is his son too.

ETA:
It's been mentioned a few times that he had tried to contact her, but she wouldn't talk. MOO

I believe it is the other way around, ER & CR said that they contacted MR and he didn't return their calls