CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #16

[asyousay]

I give up. LE and FBI are trained, educated, and have 50 times more facts than us- and yet we "know" more than they do. Is that weird to anyone else?

One thing I like about websleuths is that we are victim friendly forum. LE delivered a search warrant, which is normal, and seem to have found nothing. They have not further honed in on him, they are still exploring other scenarios. Yes, they searched his home and truck but not until WAY after they usually do. It was not their first instinct or indication in this case.

IMO MR is a victim until they find something indicating otherwise, and I hope we eventually go back to treating him in a victim friendly manner.

MOO

I do not think we know better than LE . But the facts we do have suggest that if MR is guilty he had a 18 hour window of opportunity ( roughly ) and then it is no wonder that much has not been found.
MOO

 

[mmmagique]

I cant get why texting mom would be any different than calling her? He had only been missing a few hours at this point not days,I think MR wanted to know had DR contacted her and told her where he maybe going,why call ER just to ask that when they don't get along?Maybe texting was the way the two of them normally communicate.Even in a tragedy some people are not going to stand together not even if there child is missing,and him not taking her calls or text does not mean he is not looking for DR it only proves he isn't communicating with her,but LE said he has been communicating fully with them.

I guess everyone's different. There are two dogs in the house I live in that don't belong to me. (and one that does) If one of the dogs were to run off, (or I couldn't find one of them) I would SO not text my hubs to ask him if he knew where his dog is. It does seem cold. Even if it's not necessarily an emergency.

 

[Confusion]

Not necessarily to give him support, the fb and GCU article all show the son had a relationship with ER and was trying to figure out who MR was.

He has 4 sons, is NR the one who went there when MR's brother did?

 

[Confusion]

I believe it is the other way around, ER & CR said that they contacted MR and he didn't return their calls

Sorry, I keep forgetting that if she didn't say it, it's not true.

 

[ShyViolet]

How many times has it been said that texts worked there, but phone calls often didn't?

Probably the same amount of times it has been said that MR has a landline.

 

[katydid23]

Aquarians basically possess strong and attractive personalities. They fall into two principle types: one shy, sensitive, gentle and patient; the other exuberant, lively and exhibitionist, sometimes hiding the considerable depths of their character under a cloak of frivolity. Both types are strong willed and forceful in their different ways and have strong convictions, though as they seek truth above all things, they are usually honest enough to change their opinions, however firmly held, if evidence comes to light which persuades them that they have been mistaken. They have a breadth of vision that brings diverse factors into a whole, and can see both sides of an argument without shilly-shallying as to which side to take. Consequently they are unprejudiced and tolerant of other points of view. This is because they can see the validity of the argument, even if they do not accept it themselves. They obey the Quaker exhortation to "Be open to truth, from whatever source it comes," and are prepared to learn from everyone.

http://www.astrology-online.com/aquarius.htm

If anyone cares about this sort of thing.

Aquarians can also be incredibly flippant. And they can disconnect emotionally in a way that others find very maddening. In a very rebellious but creative way.

 

[demetra]

I guess everyone's different. There are two dogs in the house I live in that don't belong to me. (and one that does) If one of the dogs were to run off, (or I couldn't find one of them) I would SO not text my hubs to ask him if he knew where his dog is. It does seem cold. Even if it's not necessarily an emergency.

I understand your feeling towards that,but i would text my ex and ask has he heard from our child,if he said no i would continue to look,If it lead to a full day without my son then i would call him.

 

[Confusion]

I believe he fought with his son. I do not believe for one second he was out for "hours" without needing serious medical attention.

Who said he didn't need medical attention?

 

[Confusion]

Aquarians can also be incredibly flippant. And they can disconnect emotionally in a way that others find very maddening. In a very rebellious but creative way.

They tend to be ahead of their time and don't always fit in the way people think they should. :twocents:

 

[Darcyline]

One thing I like about websleuths is that we are victim friendly forum. LE delivered a search warrant, which is normal, and seem to have found nothing. They have not further honed in on him, they are still exploring other scenarios. Yes, they searched his home and truck but not until WAY after they usually do. It was not their first instinct or indication in this case.

IMO MR is a victim until they find something indicating otherwise, and I hope we eventually go back to treating him in a victim friendly manner.

MOO

I am thinking I might just have to take a step back from this case. I actually lean toward MR being involved, but I have also always respected how victim friendly and respectful and level-headed Websleuths is and this case just feels less so in my opinion. I may be wrong and I may just be really emotional right now due to stuff going on in my personal life.
So, I may just need to take a bit of a break and just continue praying for Dylan which, at this point, seems like all I can do to try to help.

His little baseball picture kills me every time I see it-what a cutie who deserves to be at home right now.

 

[NC Analyzer]

Glad someone finally put this into words and got brave enough to post it. I've had this EXACT same thought from the beginning of this. There is something about MR that just screams this. JMO, MOO, and all that good stuff.

well...fwiw...i think he wanted her back.

i think he suggested driving to castle rock so he could see her.
i think he texted so he could alarm her enough into coming without her hearing the concern/guilt/whatever in his voice.

i think he didn't return texts once he knew that MH was coming into town. bbm:

nov. 28th/http://durangoherald.com/article/20121127/NEWS01/121129616/-1/s
“I wish it could be different, because at a time like this, we should be together.”

nov. 29th/http://www.koat.com/news/new-mexico/Authorities-search-home-of-missing-teen-s-father/-/9153762/17591544/-/15sgq0m/-/index.html
Mark Redwine said he wishes he and his ex-wife could come together at such a difficult time.

dec. 3rd/http://www.gazette.com/articles/dylan-148038-son-redwine.html
Mark Redwine said he would like to meet with his ex-wife but so far has not had success beyond the text messages.
“I don’t want to have dinner with her and become buddy, buddy, but as parents of a missing child, people need to know that we can put our differences aside and that we want our son back,” he said.

IMO that's exactly what he wanted. to have dinner with her, to see her...

in early articles, it was stated that MH were 'significant others' and MSM referred to him as her 'boyfriend'. later articles called him her fiance. did MR even know that ER and MH were now engaged?

 

[Salem]

Okay you guys - we are stuck and we need to try to move forward.

So.....

1. Let's try to agree to disagree. Everyone has valid points about Dad, custody, phone calls and the clothes. Everyone. Let's file them away for now and try to move forward.

2. Info we need to know to get off this merry go round. Was the sighting by the Postal Worker ever confirmed or ruled out? I know the sightings by the searchers, of the jogger, were ruled out, but what about the Postal Worker?

3. What the intersection of CR 500/501 looks like, who is nearby (any RSOs, that sort of thing)?

We need to try, please, to move forward.

Thanks,

Salem

 

[mmmagique]

Aquarians can also be incredibly flippant. And they can disconnect emotionally in a way that others find very maddening. In a very rebellious but creative way.

I think that was addressed with "sometimes hiding the considerable depths of their character under a cloak of frivolity"

In my case, I've always hidden any sort of sadness or hint of depth (lol) with a grin and a giggle.

 

[Abby Normal Again]

I do not think we know better than LE . But the facts we do have suggest that if MR is guilty he had a 18 hour window of opportunity ( roughly ) and then it is no wonder that much has not been found.
MOO

Police and FBI are still considering abduction an actual possibility. For a group that was able to eliminate that he got lost in the woods and eliminate runaway, I don't think they are afraid of eliminating possibilities based on it being unlikely.

I was only referencing people who have eliminated abduction and honed in on MR alone when I said they thought they knew better than LE. I was not talking to any individuals directly. You included.

 

[Bravo]

We are all here for Dylan for sure. I know i had to step away. Seems when we run out of things to sleuth it can get a bit tense. I think we are all frustrated.

 

[mmmagique]

I understand your feeling towards that,but i would text my ex and ask has he heard from our child,if he said no i would continue to look,If it lead to a full day without my son then i would call him.

But she said it was around 4:30 or 5:00 when he called, so the day was almost done, and heading quickly into night.

 

[BritsKate]

There is a lot of talk about whether or not a judge would order a child at 13 yo to go to visit the NCP if the child didn't want to or if the CP thought it was dangerous.

I was personally in this situation, my children were ordered to visit their parent and absolutely did NOT want to. The NCP made it more difficult by changing the flight to an extended time period and completely different dates. My attorney got an emergency hearing (so emergency it was conducted over the phone) the judge simply said that if I did not comply I would go to jail, period, end of discussion.

He based his decission on what he felt was best for the children (time with the other parent) and discounted the games played by the NCP even before the children left as a sign of non-compliance and contempt.

She had no choice.

I'm so far behind in just a few hours! I agree from similar circumstances...my ex had a history of domestic violence, a diagnosis of co-morbid personality disorders, was awaiting a pending charge for a firearms violation and had attempted suicide in front of his eldest daughter (not ours) who was 12 years old at the time. The judge only amended the order - my ex's rights to visitation were not suspended until he plead guilty to sexually assaulting a 14 year old relative.

And knowing everything I knew about my ex I too had to send my kiddos off never really knowing if they'd come home safe. It was excruciating to be waiting on pins and needles the entire time they were gone. I would love to see family courts revamp their presumption of best interest.

 

[Bravo]

I haven't ruled out abduction either. For me it's just "either" "or". That's all i got.

 

[Bravo]

I just dont understand why no presser. If just to say he is missing. LE has not ruled that out it seems?

 

[DylansMom34]

hmmm we do seem to be stuck .. but in reading the recent posts I wonder if Elaine reached out to meet with Mark in a more friendly manner, maybe for dinner, if at the very least they could be more unified in their search for Dylan.

OR... if Mark is involved in whatever happened to Dylan, if he'd tell her something.

If he has feeling for her, if he could actually look in her eyes and see her pain, maybe it would have some effect.

Maybe I'm just in dreamland. well, I sure I probably am....