CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #19

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  • #201
So many of these missing children come from backgrounds of unhappy parents, with bad break-ups or divorces or other partners in the picture; Dylan, Kyron, Haleigh, Hailey, Ayla, Sky, Aliayah, Amir Jennings, even little Skylar who was found dead last night. I wonder why that is; often the custodial parent has gone through so much to get custody and the other parent to get visitation, and someone the child still slips into the void. I know that logically it probably does not mean anything, but maybe some of the children are more vulnerable to the "kindness" of an adult approaching them? At least some of the older missing children. I don't know...just something I have noticed. Only a small number of the missing kids here seem to be from an original two-parent home.

BBM

I think that might be a key point in some cases. I used to work in a middle school, and we would get cases where kids would come and tell the office that other kids were talking to strangers online, maybe even planning to meet up with them. We had 2 cases where girls ran off with online friends.

In all of the cases that I knew of where the kids wanted to meet online friends in person, they were kids with very few friends in real life, and kind of lonely family lives. :cry:
 
  • #202
p.s.

We have a German Shepherd, and we play ' hide the dog biscuit' with her all of the time. And there is no place you can hide her liver biscuit that she will not sniff it out and find it. I have a lot of confidence in dog's ability to sniff things out, but the handlers, not always so much.

Lol, even my cat, who is trained in nothing, can immediately smell when there is any new object in the house and go to it at once to examine it, no matter what it is or where we put it. He'll come out of his sleeping room, all yawning, etc. and hone right in on whatever it is before even checking his dish.
 
  • #203
About the fishing, he wouldn't have taken everything he brought with him, would he? IDK. Did he ever get to MR's house? No one can verify but MR. What could possibly have happened to his phone? I don't believe he just fell asleep and forgot about his phone. The phone was off Sunday night. LE doesn't say much. I pray it doesn't mean that they know nothing. But they have cleared no one. MOO
 
  • #204
Lol, even my cat, who is trained in nothing, can immediately smell when there is any new object in the house and go to it at once to examine it, no matter what it is or where we put it. He'll come out of his sleeping room, all yawning, etc. and hone right in on whatever it is before even checking his dish.


"who is trained in nothing" ha that made me laugh

My dog is trained in nothing, too. But everywhere we go she sniffs the perimeter of the room or area we're in and assesses every person in sight. Very sleuthy.

I really wish more was able to be gleaned from the dogs. Seems maybe there wasn't anything for them to work with. :waitasec:
 
  • #205
Gosh, I sure would love a Christmas miracle in this thread.

I'm half-tempted to say some inflammatory comments, just to get this thread hoppin' again! (Just kidding, of course, mods! :great:)

On a more serious note, I'd love it for LE to come out with...something. Anything. Rule something out. Rule something in. Give 'us' (both on WS, and those local to the case who are likely checking daily for updates) something to GO on.
 
  • #206
IMO, it's not possible that LE needs nothing from the public; they have not found Dylan and have not made an arrest. Therefore, they very much need the public to be aware, alert, searching their land, etc. Yet they say nothing.
 
  • #207
No, you never know. I just have great doubts.

I know it can be very frustrating when they don't do regular updates, but we need to keep in mind that they don't have to. Some agencies will, others won't. FBI is not real good at keeping the public informed but ultimately it's the decision of the person in charge and they all have different ways of handling cases. Might also help to remember that every case is different as well.

Yeah, they solved Jessica's case pretty quickly, because her remains were found quickly, and everything came together in a hurry after that. If she had not been found by now, I wonder how close they would be to finding out who did it, or if there would have been other victims.
 
  • #208
Does anyone think that Dylan is being "hidden" somewhere? Not specifically by MR either.
 
  • #209
I know it can be very frustrating when they don't do regular updates, but we need to keep in mind that they don't have to. Some agencies will, others won't. FBI is not real good at keeping the public informed but ultimately it's the decision of the person in charge and they all have different ways of handling cases. Might also help to remember that every case is different as well.

Yeah, they solved Jessica's case pretty quickly, because her remains were found quickly, and everything came together in a hurry after that. If she had not been found by now, I wonder how close they would be to finding out who did it, or if there would have been other victims.

I don't think they have even given the "generic" talk to the community, as far as people who acted differently in days before or after, cleaning vehicles, etc...missed work. Have they? I mean, not all people know to think of these things as we do here.
 
  • #210
That is a shame but at least we know it was nothing and we do not need to wonder what happened there.

I spoke to her and she has intuitive gifts.
 
  • #211
I don't think they have even given the "generic" talk to the community, as far as people who acted differently in days before or after, cleaning vehicles, etc...missed work. Have they? I mean, not all people know to think of these things as we do here.

I have no idea if they have or not. I'm not sure if it would even help. Hasn't helped in Holly's case, has it? But it sure couldn't hurt, if they haven't done it already.
 
  • #212
Does anyone think that Dylan is being "hidden" somewhere? Not specifically by MR either.


Well.... if we're not talking about MR,

what are other alternatives?

Would you say a stranger is "hiding" him? I wouldn't use the word "hiding" if it was a stranger, personally.

Are you referring more to someone who is known to Dylan?
 
  • #213
I know it can be very frustrating when they don't do regular updates, but we need to keep in mind that they don't have to. Some agencies will, others won't. FBI is not real good at keeping the public informed but ultimately it's the decision of the person in charge and they all have different ways of handling cases. Might also help to remember that every case is different as well.

Yeah, they solved Jessica's case pretty quickly, because her remains were found quickly, and everything came together in a hurry after that. If she had not been found by now, I wonder how close they would be to finding out who did it, or if there would have been other victims.

HEY '' FBI is not real good at keeping the public informed ''
I wonder if the FBI would give anyone any info if called
and asked? Can you do that sorta thing? Just call up the
fbi and ask for info ? I mean we've been waiting on local
LE and nothing,but who's to say fbi would be so tight lipped ?
 
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Does anyone think that Dylan is being "hidden" somewhere? Not specifically by MR either.

I have considered this. I still have it in my mind. I also have a few others.
 
  • #217
IMO, it's not possible that LE needs nothing from the public; they have not found Dylan and have not made an arrest. Therefore, they very much need the public to be aware, alert, searching their land, etc. Yet they say nothing.

I think they made a huge mistake in not releasing the tape of Dylan and his father at Walmart.

First of all Dylan looks completely different in that one picture than he does on that poster they are putting up. On the poster he looks so young and heavy. In the Walmart picture he looks slimmer and a bit older.

If those video's had been released right away somebody might have remembered something about father and son. They were happy, they were argueing. Something.

Time is not on LE's side. Dylan is still missing. LE has made no arrests. Bringing a dog out to search an area already thoroughly searched.

LE has nothing and they lost a great opportunity in not releasing those video pictures of the two of them in Walmart.

Honestly they need a woman detective in charge of this investigation. MOO
 
  • #218
I would like to throw this out there for many. I have mentioned in the past that we have local reservations in our area, if you have never seen this then you will not know that they don't always speak up, many don't have phones, speak english, no outside contact with people in this area, see people for weeks, and it is not uncommon to not know what is going on with the people living close to you on the reservation.
 
  • #219
I think they made a huge mistake in not releasing the tape of Dylan and his father at Walmart.

First of all Dylan looks completely different in that one picture than he does on that poster they are putting up. On the poster he looks so young and heavy. In the Walmart picture he looks slimmer and a bit older.

If those video's had been released right away somebody might have remembered something about father and son. They were happy, they were argueing. Something.

Time is not on LE's side. Dylan is still missing. LE has made no arrests. Bringing a dog out to search an area already thoroughly searched.

LE has nothing and they lost a great opportunity in not releasing those video pictures of the two of them in Walmart.

Honestly they need a woman detective in charge of this investigation. MOO

I agree with you honeybun. LE has not used the public enough in this case. They really need to be having regular press conferences, just like they did in Jessica Ridgeway's case. The cases that are solved these days tend to be the ones where LE reaches out and gives us something so we can help them.
 
  • #220
I have no idea if they have or not. I'm not sure if it would even help. Hasn't helped in Holly's case, has it? But it sure couldn't hurt, if they haven't done it already.

I am about 99% sure they haven't; it may not help to tell the community to look out for such things now, as memories fade, but it couldn't have hurt to do so in the early days. They claim to have determined a crime had likely been committed very quickly. My guess is we are looking at someone relatively local to the area. The public can be of use, if they know what they should be looking for or thinking about. Unlike us at WS, people need to be reminded; reminded to search, reminded to think, reminded to take a moment and recall who has changed their vehicle, or had it detailed that week, or seemed edgy, anxious, even ill. I would never have known to think about those things before WS. Every criminal has people who know him or her, even if their friends and family have no idea they are a criminal.

I know LE does not "have to" share anything or even acknowledge the public, but is that really the way to go with a child missing? I just have not seen many positive results in cases where LE is this silent. JMO
 
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