CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #23

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  • #121
I am confused-Dylan did not have or use a bike, I am sure we would know that much if a bike was missing from the house. In fact a bike was there, but apparently not used.

The lack of information on this case has left me unsure of anything except the fact Dylan is missing, to be honest. I no longer remember what I read in MSM versus what I read discussed here versus what comes up on the fb page.

Which was why I included the question of whether anyone recalled if one was missing. Thank you for answering that.
 
  • #122
The police have said about a million times they're investigating abduction. I've read around on facebook on comments from many community members there, and they talk about how they're watching their children extra carefully, etc. The community there definitely gets it.



We are not seeing any tv/radio appeals to plead for his safe return as LE have not said anything public in awhile.

So why if it is abduction why is more not being done by LE ?
 
  • #123
AZ is MR's ex wife and Mother of his oldest boys. Dylan would be a half brother to her sons.

I know who she is. I asked if she knew Dylan. That's all. Maybe she can answer that question for me. Maybe I should have said 'personally' know him. I was just curious. ty
 
  • #124
I may be totally wrong ... but maybe not..
In my opinion (only), I believe that Dylan accidentally hitchhiked at the wrong time...
I think that the whole fact that he didn't arrive Saturday night (as per the original plan) threw off the whole visit...I think that his Dad wanted to spend the first night with him - be cause the flight was delayed this was pushed to Sunday. Dylan's friends probably still expected him then..but this would mean that his dad wouldn't have been able to spend the "first" night with him - which, as a dad, would have been important to him..
I think Dylan, being a teenager, believed that he would get up early to catch a drive with his dad to see his friends but, also being a teenager, just needed the extra sleep to catch up..
I think that when he did wake up he was impatient to meet his friends and decided to "get there on his own"...
My son is 17...when his cell phone dies ...he just continues to act - he has never used a landline to explain where he is going or why - he just assumes he will get where he is going...like we all used to do before there were cell phones. When one is young one feels indomitable.
Sadly I think this is a case of "the wrong place at the wrong time>"
I have nothing to back this up...just an inherent belief that the dad is telling the truth. I hope that I am right... Mostly I hope that Dylan is ok- and if not I have a true belief that he is resting with angels..

Thank you for your post.

I have also pondered the same thing.

If only LE could tell us THAT Dylan did make it to his dad's house and that the dogs did track his scent but then we would know pretty much what they do. It makes me think they don't seem to know what to do with the information they have (I say that only because of their silence).

Why can't they show us all the tapes from Walmart?

Why won't they clear anyone? Why didn't Mark talk/text Elaine or Cory?

Even before Elaine made her statement to ABC (a week after Dylan was reported missed) why couldn't they come together as a united front for Dylan??? This really bothers me.....
 
  • #125
AZ is MR's ex wife and Mother of his oldest boys. Dylan would be a half brother to her sons.

Going off of this. I linked one post on the last page but luckily Az isn't a prolific poster so it is pretty easy to search all her posts and reread them in one sitting.
 
  • #126
AZ I am wondering if you know Dylan. Have you ever met him. You may have posted this info and I missed it. If so sorry to trouble you again. tia

She posted that she met him once for a few hours -

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  • #127
The police have said about a million times they're investigating abduction. I've read around on facebook on comments from many community members there, and they talk about how they're watching their children extra carefully, etc. The community there definitely gets it.

I really dont think it takes a verbal warning directly from LE who rarely does it anyway. Most parents are capable of thinking for themselves and will watch their children very closely when something like this happens in their area. I think LE knows they will be more vigilant. We all would imo if it happened in our area whether LE ever uttered a word.

IMO
 
  • #128
I know who she is. I asked if she knew Dylan. That's all. Maybe she can answer that question for me. Maybe I should have said 'personally' know him. I was just curious. ty

I think she said he had only met him once for a few hours one time but I may be mistaken.
 
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I live, work and my son attends school very near Jessica Ridgeway's neighborhood. I remember keeping a closer eye on Dylan and the other kids in our neighborhood, near his school, etc. When LE came out and warned us of a predator in the area, this notched up 10 million percent.

If LE in the Durango/Bayfield area has any suspicions about a predator, I really think they would be saying so.

As a parent, there is something different that clicks in your mind if there is an indication that the child was a runaway or a victim of some sort of harm due to a parent than if the child could have been the victim of a random predator.

I hope LE isn't letting down their community by not saying anything....
 
  • #131
I really dont think it takes a verbal warning directly from LE who rarely does it anyway. Most parents are capable of thinking for themselves and will watch their children very closely when something like this happens in their area. I think LE knows they will be more vigilant. We all would imo if it happened in our area whether LE ever uttered a word.

IMO

really? , even when there has not been anything like this in the area before and knowing the history of the person involved i do not think a lot of people would be afraid for there children without a LE warning of some kind .
 
  • #132
Thank you for your post.

I have also pondered the same thing.

If only LE could tell us THAT Dylan did make it to his dad's house and that the dogs did track his scent but then we would know pretty much what they do. It makes me think they don't seem to know what to do with the information they have (I say that only because of their silence).

Why can't they show us all the tapes from Walmart?

Why won't they clear anyone? Why didn't Mark talk/text Elaine or Cory?

Even before Elaine made her statement to ABC (a week after Dylan was reported missed) why couldn't they come together as a united front for Dylan??? This really bothers me.....

We seem to ask these same questions when LE doesnt divulge what they know to the public.

Like I said before they are not in the PR business. They know what they know and IMO they feel they are the only ones that needs to know the real evidence and all the details.

A lot of questions remained unanswered that are asked on sites such as this and remain that way until there is an arrest of a suspect and if LE has no suspect it will remain unanswered because until the case is solved everything they know is private since it will continue to be an ongoing investigation.

It sure could have helped Marlene Lamar, and her boyfriend, Rick, tremendously on crime message boards if LE had come out in their defense, but LE did not come out and tell one thing they knew that was going during the investigation. And it didnt have one thing to do with Sierra's mom or her boyfriend either.

IMO
 
  • #133
oops ...sorry :)
 
  • #134
AZ I am wondering if you know Dylan. Have you ever met him. You may have posted this info and I missed it. If so sorry to trouble you again. tia

No need to be sorry. I met him in 2008 at Easter, that was the only time. It was for a few hours.
 
  • #135
We are not seeing any tv/radio appeals to plead for his safe return as LE have not said anything public in awhile.

So why if it is abduction why is more not being done by LE ?

They're following all the model procedures for law enforcement for missing children. One of those procedures ensures the child's picture and info goes out to all law enforcement across the country by being entered in NCIC. Another of those procedures ensures the child's info and pic goes out to the public nationwide through a partnership with NCMEC. NCMEC, in order to fulfill their obligation, has a vast network with numerous organizations and companies nationwide to distribute the missing child's pic and info widely and in a variety of ways.

Anything else is up to the people who care about the child - family, friends, strangers across the country. I think the compassionate thing for all of us to do for the child, and also for the family who may simply be unable to for some time, is to plaster those pictures in our neighborhoods and all over the internet.

LE is doing their job, and doing it well. I don't want them sitting on TV or radio or posing for pictures or consulting with PR firms. I want them investigating these cases.

I also don't question whether families should be doing more. I go on the assumption that they're devastated. It's up to friends and strangers to help these children.

That's just me and my JMO IMO MOO though
 
  • #136
I was just looking at the facebook page and the admin of the site ( i think) has mentioned looking at psychics to help them.
 
  • #137
Folks, we have allowed the discussion of Dylan's father in this case because there are a lot of questions surrounding Dylan's disappearance and he was the last person known to see him prior to his disappeance.

We do not know what happened to Dylan or who is responsible. It is not a foregone conclusion that MR is responsible for the disappearance of his son.

We are web sleuths and as web sleuths, we'd like to see any and all possibilities as to what may have happened to Dylan discussed here. Any members chastising other members for putting forth alternative theories will be hit with hefty timeouts.

All reasonable theories and discussion of facts are welcome in this thread.

Please carry on and let's do what we do best.

Thank you.
bumping again

folks, if you don't agree with a theory that is fine but all thoughts are welcome here.
 
  • #138
All I will say on the matter of the silence by LE is that if they think Dylan was abducted by a non-family member, then they are behaving in a very irresponsible and unprofessional manner, IMO.

I have great respect in LE and do not believe they are irresponsible or unprofessional.
 
  • #139
really? , even when there has not been anything like this in the area before and knowing the history of the person involved i do not think a lot of people would be afraid for there children without a LE warning of some kind .

Yes, really. Crimes like this can hit areas even where crimes are non-existent...just like in other abduction cases. Abductions of children have happened in remote rural areas as well as quiet subdivisions or upscaled communities. Pedos dont discriminate. They seize on an opportunity when it presents itself no matter where that may be.

What history shows he murdered his child?

I have read articles from that area and the citizens are very alarmed that an abductor may be in their area as they should be.

I dont know of but once case where LE warned the community (Ridgeway case) and there have been countless abductors of children on the loose where the child or children were taken and later found murdered and the perp found was a stranger pedo. Some didnt even have a reason to be in the area but they sure were there.

IMO
 
  • #140
BBM

Well, IMO, you can just forget about the last one. Rarely does LE warn the community that a pervert may be loose in their community. In fact all the cases where a pedophile WAS on the loose and abducted a child or children the only case I can remember LE informing the public that a predator was on the loose was in the Jessica Ridgeway case. IMO, the reason they did that in that case was because they knew he had dismembered JRs little body and most pedos dont do that. So it was way beyond what most pedos do. They usually will kidnap, rape and quickly dispose of the body and its in tact.

The first one may already be happening. I havent heard of anyone that has stopped talking to LE.

I am sure the most recent photo of Dylan taken at Walmart is on a lot of fliers in the area.

IMO

BBM - I have to disagree, at least here in AZ, they notify the community a LOT when there is a predator on the loose. Especially concerning children.
We had two cases and not only was it on the news, it was in letters sent home, utility bills and the police increased their patrols by schools & bus stops.
 
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