CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #25

[NC Analyzer]

There is as well the possibility that the task force members chose to do an in depth interview with MR in order to clarify items identified on the polygraph instead of doing a second one since he agreed to it.

This was done without a lawyer as well.

Not likely, IMO. LE doesn't give someone a pass if they fail or have inconclusive results on a poly. They politely request a second one. Of course MR had the right to refuse, lawyer or not. I believe most adults are aware of that right, but that is just my opinion.

 

[NC Analyzer]

I know LE stated that they both had taken a polygraph.

That was not my issue.

According to ER she was only asked questions pertaining to whether she was a good candidate or not as per NG.

Who should I believe?

LE or ER?

I guess I'm not familiar with ER alluding to only answering questions. Do you have a link? But even so, I would have to guess she probably did both. JMO

 

[Allusonz]

I'm not sure MR would have told all of his acquaintances that he was going to see a lawyer on Monday morning. If I'm taking the day off from work, I don't say why or where I will be.

Unless maybe someone else had errands to run as well and was planning on going along.

 

[Old_Hippie]

Well, of course "plans" would change due to the flight delay, but what I was referring to was the non-specific plans for the entire week. What they were going to be doing, where they were going, what the Thanksgiving plans were, so on and so on. MR said himself that they had some vague plans to go bowling and maybe travel to his brother's house, but nothing was specific. He said so himself. JMO, MOO

Yes, and that's another thing that sort of bugs me about this visit, too. MR hadn't seen Dylan since Labour Day (2 months). He went through the court to get this "court ordered visit." Yet, he had no solid plans at all for what they would do to have "quality time" together after making Dylan come to visit him and miss his traditional Thanksgiving with the family with which he lived, where he wanted to be for Thanksgiving. I find all that odd and a little bit mean, IMO.

It seems to me it was more about depriving ER, CR and Dylan of their opportunity to have a "big happy family" Thanksgiving than it was about actually having "quality time" with Dylan. Too bad it went down that way, considering how this has worked out.

 

[Allusonz]

Not likely, IMO. LE doesn't give someone a pass if they fail or have inconclusive results on a poly. They politely request a second one. Of course MR had the right to refuse, lawyer or not. I believe most adults are aware of that right, but that is just my opinion.

Or maybe they requested that he sit down and do a formal interview with the task force members.

I think of Soloman Metawala here where his was inconclusive and to be frank I don't recall if it was ever stated that he had passed one.

Maybe they are taking the polygraph and the interview all into consideration.

 

[ThePhantom]

Alas, you would be surprised how many families live like this -- intact or otherwise.

 

[NC Analyzer]

Or maybe they requested that he sit down and do a formal interview with the task force members.

I think of Soloman Metawala here where his was inconclusive and to be frank I don't recall if it was ever stated that he had passed one.

Maybe they are taking the polygraph and the interview all into consideration.

No. It doesn't work like that. Of course, JMO. But in my experience I've never seen it done like that. LE doesn't play games with someone who failed a poly and they certainly don't stop at one poly if the results were inconclusive. There are many reasons for an inconclusive poly and they would want to eliminate any potential problems and retest.

 

[Eileen730]

So if CR stated it then it must be fact?

I never said it was a fact!
but I think he knows what going on!


JMO

 

[Allusonz]

No. It doesn't work like that. Of course, JMO. But in my experience I've never seen it done like that. LE doesn't play games with someone who failed a poly and they certainly don't stop at one poly if the results were inconclusive. There are many reasons for an inconclusive poly and they would want to eliminate any potential problems and retest.

I would have to disagree especially if a medical issue was identified.

That though like you is simply MO.

 

[Dee10]

It doesn't make sense in a very important criminal investigation not to ask someone to do another poly if there was a problem with the lst one. I can't think of one case they didn't. What possible reason would there be not to ask?

ETA - Yes, a medical reason would be.

 

[NC Analyzer]

I never said it was a fact!
but I think he knows what going on!


JMO

I can't see any useful purpose for CR not to provide facts! I would think under the circumstances and in light of the pressure of the interview, he would be more likely to blurt out truthful statements...even statements he maybe shouldn't have blurted out. This is his little brother and I have no doubt that he is doing everything in his power to bring Dylan home! Why would he make something up during an interview just to make MR look bad? He obviously believes what he is alluding to. You could see the anger and frustration on his face! He wants Dylan to come home and just because he isn't giving MR a pass, doesn't mean he isn't stating a fact. Of course, this is JMO!

 

[NC Analyzer]

I would have to disagree especially if a medical issue was identified.

That though like you is simply MO.

Yes, thank you for saying that because that is one of the things that LE would want to rule out as being the cause of an inconclusive result. If it is medication, it would be addressed. If possible, they would re-examine MR and if they weren't able to do so, I do believe we would have heard about that "reason" by now. JMO

 

[Old_Hippie]

I never said it was a fact!
but I think he knows what going on!


JMO

I think he and ER both know what's going on and probably speak to LE for updates frequently, as that's what families of missing persons do. Whether LE is telling them any more than their telling us is anybody's guess. If LE is telling them anything, they may not be at liberty to dish it up to the public.

There's a fundraiser coming up in Monument on January 17th. It's close to Colorado Springs where ER and CR live.

http://www.ourcoloradonews.com/trilakes/news/fundraiser-scheduled-for-dylan-redwine/article_6f7ab394-5b5c-11e2-85f8-001a4bcf887a.html

I'm curious to see if MR will attend this event or continue to maintain his distance.

 

[Eileen730]

Yes, thank you for saying that because that is one of the things that LE would want to rule out as being the cause of an inconclusive result. If it is medication, it would be addressed. If possible, they would re-examine MR and if they weren't able to do so, I do believe we would have heard about that "reason" by now. JMO

What if it was alcohol?

 

[SmoothOperator]

LE says that the family continues to cooperate: http://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/ar...-13-year-old-dylan-redwine-search-20k-reward/

I take LEs word over CRs belief.

This is an online outlet out of Utah that has no recent statements made publicly by LE .. we have nothing even remotely recent from LE stating MR is cooperating fully at or near this present time. <modsnip>

 

[Allusonz]

It doesn't make sense in a very important criminal investigation not to ask someone to do another poly if there was a problem with the lst one. I can't think of one case they didn't. What possible reason would there be not to ask?

ETA - Yes, a medical reason would be.

The bottom line is that we truly do not know what has been asked for the most part. To my understanding LE is still stating that the family is cooperating.

I have to base my opinion on the fact of what LE is stating.

 

[PaulR]

I think he and ER both know what's going on and probably speak to LE for updates frequently, as that's what families of missing persons do. Whether LE is telling them any more than their telling us is anybody's guess. If LE is telling them anything, they may not be at liberty to dish it up to the public.

There's a fundraiser coming up in Monument on January 17th. It's close to Colorado Springs where ER and CR live.

http://www.ourcoloradonews.com/trilakes/news/fundraiser-scheduled-for-dylan-redwine/article_6f7ab394-5b5c-11e2-85f8-001a4bcf887a.html

I'm curious to see if MR will attend this event or continue to maintain his distance.

I wonder if ER will attend this time?

http://www.gazette.com/articles/boy-148009-friends-ago.html#ixzz2HsCk2lVm

Dylan’s mother Elaine Redwine wasn’t at the vigil, but she had sent a note to Kemp, which she read solemnly to the gathering.

 

[NC Analyzer]

What if it was alcohol?

they don't administer the exam if the subject has been drinking. If the subject doesn't admit to alcohol use, but the exam is inconclusive and later the subject admits to having a few drinks prior to the exam, they would request another exam.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

I wonder if ER will attend this time?

http://www.gazette.com/articles/boy-148009-friends-ago.html#ixzz2HsCk2lVm

was MR at the dinner and silent auction that was held?

 

[Confusion]

I guess I'm not familiar with ER alluding to only answering questions. Do you have a link? But even so, I would have to guess she probably did both. JMO

It's the same NG interview as the one when she did the dance with the results of MR's test she didn't know if he had taken. MOO

IMO as seems to be typical in this tragic case we must believe EVERYONE ELSE is always lying when it comes to MR..

Nobody said anyone lied, but obviously somebody can be wrong. Other people can prefer to believe whoever they want to believe, but some of us prefer to believe LE when there are conflicting responses. MOO