CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #27

[PaulR]

I think it is a good point. On one side, statistically certain people are much more likely to have committed a crime. There is a reason everyone always suspects the ex-husband when a wife/mother goes missing. However, I do think there is some responsibility to be careful and not ruin lives especially with no evidence. Then again, the only life that is typically ruined is the person who is dead or missing.

I don't really agree - I think Steven Hatfill, James Van de Velde, and Richard Jewell were victims as well. Only they had to live with it.

 

[cluciano63]

Poor Brettly He had it bad because he was also the last to see her. He basically allowed LE to rip apart his place and have full access to him because he knew this and then he had to deal with losing Mickey on top of being a suspect.
I think it is a good point. On one side, statistically certain people are much more likely to have committed a crime. There is a reason everyone always suspects the ex-husband when a wife/mother goes missing. However, I do think there is some responsibility to be careful and not ruin lives especially with no evidence. Then again, the only life that is typically ruined is the person who is dead or missing.
It is a difficult situation in any case.

LE has not been able to clear MR. i never understood the suspicion of Mickey's friend, and as I recall, LE ruled him out right away. If LE cannot or will not clear the last person to see the victim, there will be suspicion.

I know I don't want MR to be guilty of harming Dylan. I see that as the worst possible crime and outcome, worse than the proverbial boogie man.

 

[mmmagique]

Am I the only one who thinks we should just lock the thread until more actual information comes out? As many have pointed out, there's nothing to discuss right now that hasn't been discussed in the previous 26 threads. MOO of course.

BBM

In my opinion? Yes. :moo:

 

[Allusonz]

Perhaps ER & CR are being more vocal because LE isn't. It's tough being in the center and wanting answers that aren't coming your way. I don't blame them in the least for speaking up. There comes a time in your when you realize that any movement is movement and it's better than standing still.

LE has their job to do, they are investigating, they are looking at evidence and they don't owe the public any answers. It's their silence that is speaking volumes to people. They have ONE shot to make it right. There is no room for error on their part and moving too quickly without enough evidence to get a conviction is not what they do.

However, for ER & CR, as long as they follow the laws, they should do whatever they see fit to find answers.

All IMO, IMOO, etc

I may think Tim, Don, and Harry did it.

I may be right and I may be wrong.

What it does give me the right to do, is make sure every and all avenues are investigated to make sure my child returns home. Simply because I might have a theory, which in turned caused someone to not call in a tip thinking the case was solved is wrong. This is about DYLAN.

Man make that more like full bottles of wine :giggle:

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

True.

In the Mickey Shunick case many were looking at the wrong person namely Brettly.

Once again in the Samantha Koenig case, many felt her boyfiend, yet that was the wrong person.

I am seeing a trend of late, not in all cases, where the person that seems to be the most logical, has not been the person responsible.

How many publicly apologized? Privately apologized?

Did anyone wonder how this may of affected them then, and consequently in the future? Do did we just rinse and repeat on the next case?

Well with all due respect, that's what we do here. I never thought Brettly or Sam's BF were involved, but it's only natural to look closely at the last person to see the missing person and those close. You don't think LE looked at these people?

I will say that I have seen many times where LE is doing things behind the scenes that we are totally unaware of actually I've been stunned out how good they've done their jobs. On the other hand, many times the missing person is never found and no arrests made. I just hope it's not the latter here. I really do hope LE has leads, no matter where they go. I'm not here to bad mouth MR, I'm here to find Dylan. I guess what I'm trying to say is I'm not one to just go along with the crowd or form quick opinions. I read and get facts and listen to what everyone has to say, then I form my opinion based on what makes the most sense to me.

 

[Simply Caustic]

If LE thinks MR did it, they would search his house again to see if there is evidence that they missed last time - when DR was only missing for a short period of time and it was early in the investigation.

You wouldn't let close to two months go by without searching the house of your prime suspect again.


IMHO: the idea that this was a non-parental kidnapping and that LE isn't asking the community for information are not mutually exclusive. If they have a suspect in mind that is not a parent (or someone close to the family), they may be building that case and not need specific information from the community.

Respectfully, in order to search the house again, that would require a search warrant. I'm not familiar with the law in CO, so I won't speak as to intricacies of obtaining this warrant...but when I hop onto LexisNexis tomorrow at work, I will delve into it on my lunch.
There's every possibility that they do not have the components required to get a judge to sign off on the warrant...and thus, they are stuck. Waiting.

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[scorekeeper]

NOOOO. I would have DT's if this thread were locked. I sat in a fetal position sucking my thumb when it was locked for longer than 15 minutes last time.

Me too. *refresh* *refresh* *refresh* LOL

Should all threads with no news be locked? How does that help anything? No one has to come here and read the same old stuff, if they do not want to, but with Dylan on so many minds, it would be very hard not to be able to discuss him and the case.

What you guys said!!

 

[PaulR]

Well with all due respect, that's what we do here. I never thought Brettly or Sam's BF were involved, but it's only natural to look closely at the last person to see the missing person and those close. You don't think LE looked at these people?

I agree that it is perfectly natural for LE to look at them as suspects.

I do not agree that this means it is civilized to drag their names through the mud.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Yes poor Brettly. He knew he was in the spotlight but did he let that stop him from being proactive in finding his friend? No he did not!!! That's what an innocent person does IMHO

 

[eileenhawkeye]

If the policy at WS was to lock threads when there is no news in a case, cases would go months (or even years) without any new posts. And then, when there is news, do we just discuss it until we can't anymore, and then the thread is locked again? I don't see how that is beneficial at all. Seems like it would just cause cases to be forgotten.

 

[cluciano63]

I have not been able to judge my gut instincts much, sadly, as the cases I have followed the most closely for my three years here remain in limbo, unsolved and no body or missing victim found. It is not about me, but I do wonder if my feelings are correct or way off base sometimes.

 

[azgrandma]

I may think Tim, Don, and Harry did it.

I may be right and I may be wrong.

What it does give me the right to do, is make sure every and all avenues are investigated to make sure my child returns home, simply because I might be right and someone did not call in a tip thinking the case was solved. This is about DYLAN.

BBM thank you for saying it better than I did. I in no way meant that they could do whatever they wanted to.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I agree that it is perfectly natural for LE to look at them as suspects.

I do not agree that this means it is civilized to drag their names through the mud.

I certainly have not seen anyone dragging MR's name through the mud. Not here anyways. We have discussed the possibilities. Look at the flip side...what if in the end we find out MR DID do something to Dylan? I mean.. isn't that what we are all here for? To discuss missing persons cases?

I guess what you see as dragging someones name through the mud, I see as simply looking at all the possibilities. It would be silly for us not consider this option IMO.

 

[mck16]

If the policy at WS was to lock threads when there is no news in a case, cases would go months (or even years) without any new posts. And then, when there is news, do we just discuss it until we can't anymore, and then the thread is locked again? I don't see how that is beneficial at all. Seems like it would just cause cases to be forgotten.

Would it help if sleuthing was opened up a little more? Just a thought. ty

 

[cluciano63]

Would it help if sleuthing was opened up a little more? Just a thought. ty

I don't know. For me, I cannot see the culprit being anyone other than MR or a stranger, or possibly someone MR knows. And we don't know who any of those people are. So how does one sleuth them?

 

[mck16]

I don't know. For me, I cannot see the culprit being anyone other than MR or a stranger, or possibly someone MR knows. And we don't know who any of those people are. So how does one sleuth them?

There really isn't much to sleuth MR that hasn't already been sleuthed. I was thinking maybe friends family, etc. It has been mentioned that someone could be hiding him out. Who would that be? Grandparents, uncles. I am just throwing this out there and I certainly understand if it is not feasible or WS legal. jmo

 

[scorekeeper]

"He hasn't had any contact with us. [My older son] tried to get a hold of him by texting him, and he wouldn't respond," she said. "I just find it odd that at a time like this, he would be so evasive."

Dylan's mother and older brother both insist Dylan wouldn't run away without contacting them, or if he did run away from his dad's home, he would have gone to them.

"When he was afraid in any situation, he knew he could call me and I would drop everything and go out there, first thing," Dylan's brother, Cory Redwine, 21, told ABC News. "He knew that me, my mom, my step-dad, any of us, if he called us and said, 'I need your help,' he knew we'd be there."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-bo...-disappearance/story?id=17813458#.ULQC2ofLTnc

BBM

I wonder if Dylan also called MH his step-dad?

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Would it help if sleuthing was opened up a little more? Just a thought. ty

Well after what I saw on another (unnamed) site, I don't know if that's such a good idea

I come to Websleuth's to get facts on a case and listen to some brilliant sleuthers. I do listen to and value everyone's opinion on here. Whether it agrees with my own or not.

 

[Confusion]

Would it help if sleuthing was opened up a little more? Just a thought. ty

I'd like to see that, or even better, I'd like to see the thread start being about finding Dylan more than trashing MR.

MOO

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

We can talk about the theory of MR abducting Dylan and hiding him out somewhere, but I don't think we can sleuth any family members.