CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #28

[scorekeeper]

I have spent the last couple of hours reading Thread 1 (really to see when I became aware of Dylan's case) and I tell you.....it's very interesting reading

If you get the opportunity, go check it out.

Posters have been asking for a press conference from very early on....

I feel comfortable with where I am with this case.

 

[cluciano63]

I have spent the last couple of hours reading Thread 1 (really to see when I became aware of Dylan's case) and I tell you.....it's very interesting reading

If you get the opportunity, go check it out.

Posters have been asking for a press conference from very early on....

I feel comfortable with where I am with this case.

Yes and instead LE has been quietly gathering info. Hoping they will soon have enough to move forward. It would be so heartening to see one of these missing child cases that have gone into months be resolved.

 

[jjenny]

I hope people are not counting too much on the reward. IMO, anyone who has an idea or actual info as to where Dylan is by now is an accessory. I have seen a number of posts on the official FB page that seem to indicate a train of thought that the reward will be the answer, when it so seldom is.

People do not like to admit they have been holding back info on a child in danger.

Not necessarily. Somebody could slip and say something to someone. Someone can also be motivated to do some ground searches.

 

[Cardinal47]

I have been reading the same things over and over again. Maybe's.

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I tell you I am tired of children missing on parents watch.
What man loses his child and won 't even discuss the last hours with the child's mother and brother?
What father sits on his Duff and says let LE handle it?

I am so happy that group of locals have organized and are demanding answers.

It 's about time we shout NO MORE!

How dare he!

 

[cluciano63]

Not necessarily. Somebody could slip and say something to someone. Someone can also be motivated to do some ground searches.

I guess i do not believe that more than one persons knows what happened to Dylan. i am seeing this as a one-on-one crime.

 

[katydid23]

I kinda lean towards this being someone else's idylic life rather than Dylan's perception of an idylic life.

He had moved in July from friends he grew up with for many years.

My son when 13 could care less what the house looked like. I do know how many times I stated I would have to bring in exterminators for his room alone.

I hope he has a nice young lady that he was interested in.

I think Dylan was thrilled to move to the bigger town. I don't think he was upset about moving. He was very close to his big brother and made new friends quickly.

If he was so attached to his old friends then he would have gotten up to see them MOnday morning, right?

 

[Cardinal47]

Not necessarily. Somebody could slip and say something to someone.

Heck back in those hills somebody might have seen something and don't even know Dylan was there or is missing. This rally might just refresh somebodies mind.

This is a determined and well organized out of love for a little boy group of friends and locals! Feed up with two months of nothing!

 

[jjenny]

I guess i do not believe that more than one persons knows what happened to Dylan. i am seeing this as a one-on-one crime.

Well that one person can slip and say something to someone.
You just never know.

 

[dlc]

Yes. And I made it clear in another post that everyone instinctively operates under assumptions, and that it is difficult to remove said assumptions when positing one's theories. I also stated that it should be the goal of anyone who wishes to view things in a structured way to learn to a) recognize those inherently biased qualities within themselves, and b) consciously try to dispose of them. Embracing them does little to assist one's critical thinking skills.



Pointing out confirmation bias is not confirmation bias.

Okay. But when you do so by saying that others are "seemingly hell bent on continuing the 'MR is evil incarnate' narrative" is that your perception, or is it truly an objective statement?

 

[cluciano63]

Not necessarily. Somebody could slip and say something to someone. Someone can also be motivated to do some ground searches.

Well that one person can slip and say something to someone.
You just never know.

Well maybe, but I am not counting on it. I think it will end up being one of those cases where LE eventually has to bring what they have to the DA or GJ and see what happens.

 

[Tonto]

Okay. But when you do so by saying that others are "seemingly hell bent on continuing the 'MR is evil incarnate' narrative" is that your perception, or is it truly an objective statement?

It is emphasis - hyperbole at worst. Not confirmation bias. And yes, it is an objective statement based on 28 threads of a clear and predominant bias towards MR being the perpetrator of Dylan's disappearance.
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[cluciano63]

Thinking about that %#}#% phone again. If his phone had died around 8pm, first, he would have probably mentioned it to Dad, especially if he later used another device to text. Also, if they were still traveling at around 8pm, I doubt he would have stopped texting until they got to the house. Even if he was talking to his father, he was probably texting.

But I guess we don't know if the last communication was sent by phone, or even was sent, rather than received, for sure. Media sure made a hash of that bit of news today, IMO.

It does not seem that Dad said anything to LE about the phone not working though, from what I gather.

 

[katydid23]

It is emphasis - hyperbole at worst. Not confirmation bias. And yes, it is an objective statement based on 28 threads of a clear and predominant bias towards MR being the perpetrator of Dylan's disappearance.
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There are LOGICAL reasons for that 'bias.' For one thing, he was the last person reported to see Dylan. And his stories about the next morning were shaky, at best. And he has motive and opportunity, and a questionable past. He is estranged from his other kids, and most of his family. And he has done little to help try and find his missing boy.

So it is understandable that the threads are full of people questioning his involvement, imo.

 

[Seajay]

It is emphasis - hyperbole at worst. Not confirmation bias. And yes, it is an objective statement based on 28 threads of a clear and predominant bias towards MR being the perpetrator of Dylan's disappearance.
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The one and only perpetrator. The problem is, any really good, comprehensive theories that do not include MR are against TOS since no one else can be sleuthed or named.

 

[cluciano63]

This is just my opinion, but it is clear to me that LE considers MR the primary POI, whether they ever say so or not. Not one thing tells me they believe another scenario is more likely than that of MR being at the heart of Dylan's disappearance.

Of course they could be wrong, but, IMO, he has some issues with what (little) he has said and other factors, and we surely know a whole lot less than LE.

JMOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Confusion]

This is just my opinion, but it is clear to me that LE considers MR the primary POI, whether they ever say so or not. Not one thing tells me they believe another scenario is more likely than that of MR being at the heart of Dylan's disappearance.

Of course they could be wrong, but, IMO, he has some issues with what (little) he has said and other factors, and we surely know a whole lot less than LE.

JMOOOOOOOOOO

One of the problems with what "he" has said is that it was told to reporters by someone else who doesn't seem to have his best interests in mind, not that anyone other than he should, but I know how easily things change when being repeated.

I was in a car accident once, and broke the window crank off with my back. My vacation started the next day, but my mother (who rode to work with me normally) went to work the next day, She told our supervisor about the accident when he asked why we hadn't been there the day before - we had called but hadn't given an explanation. About 15 minutes later, one of her friends came up to her and asked if it was true that I had broken my back in a car accident the day before.

People don't necessarily lie when they change what was told to them, but sometimes just changing a word or two can also completely change the meaning behind what was said. MOO

 

[cluciano63]

No matter how little or much MR has said, or even if he was taken out of context, he has made no effort to correct any errors, or expand upon the hours in question, certainly not to his family's satisfaction anyway. Perhaps not to LE, we do not know. All I know is that it has been a very long time since LE specified that MR was cooperating.

 

[asyousay]

Also if Dylan's phone went wrong he could use his iPod to text then ?

 

[vasportsmom]

Also if Dylan's phone went wrong he could use his iPod to text then ?

That depends on the type of iPod and whether or not a wifi connection was available.

 

[SmoothOperator]

I have a question. And I'm not trying to be a smart aleck. I've only done a limited amount of reading on confirmation bias, and mostly in terms of economic theory, but is it true that everyone makes certain assumptions; that few if any of us operate from a purely logical standpoint, unencumbered by any bias at all? We just can't see it as clearly in ourselves?

ETA: I was taking the long way around (southern upbringing) and wasn't clear enough. So, what I'm really asking is, can the bolded statement be seen as a form of confirmation bias as well?

Just wondering.

Thanks.

Confirmation bias is a regular accusation in some cases meaning that its merely the ol' saying that people are molding or transforming any/all info to "fit" some people's already predetermined opinion on the dynamics of a case or its discussion.

As far as your question about the bolded being a form of confirmation bias IMO you're correct it is.. as in the statement that some people no matter what are hell bent on MR and due to that itd be in vain to discuss other theories..

IMO yes, confirmation bias in that new info being brought up and a predetermined opinion that to discuss possibilities would be in vain...<modsnip>

All jmo.