CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #29

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  • #141
BBM: HOW? DR is going to be seen out and about? I don't think so, but that's JMO. Hidden is hidden and FB won't assist with that, IMO.

DR/ER already said (on FB) that Mark would never hurt DR. After that, the only thing they are left with is ... Mark hid him somewhere. Just don't agree with that. Can't keep a 13 yo hidden for long. JMO. ER/CR will reverse the "Mark wouldn't hurt DR" soon, IMO. They have no other choice now. IMO.

Hate this back and forth stuff. WE all want DR found and found safely. ALL of us. :(

I don't want to go back and get a link but didn't LE say....

they weren't ruling out abduction or foul play????
 
  • #142
Hi all. Just quickly popping in while Anaya is napping. Just wanted to say that I miss you all and this place! Though I am absent a lot of the time, I am still always thinking of Dylan. I hope one day soon I will be able to find time to catch up on the threads that I have missed since giving birth. Please don't forget me guys! I try to pop in when I can! :seeya:


I find it cute when new mommies think they might have time. Congratulations again and enjoy every moment, they grow too quickly!
 
  • #143
http://www.gazette.com/articles/mom-149885-monument-disappearance.html
"Elaine has been searching ever since. She was in the area for a month and searched every day."
More at link. Also several messages in the FMDR FB pages in Nov & Dec referred to ER and family out searching.

LOTS of people searched. Go back to page #1 on this thread. I was posting as to what was being done and when during that whole time. Mark was there too, but that JMO and I was there too. Keys were given to open "seasonal" houses, etc. Doors were knocked on, etc. Barns were searched, etc. The few private lands were searched. We did all that. MR was there too.

JMO <modsnip>
 
  • #144
BBM: HOW? DR is going to be seen out and about? I don't think so, but that's JMO. Hidden is hidden and FB won't assist with that, IMO.

DR/ER already said (on FB) that Mark would never hurt DR. After that, the only thing they are left with is ... Mark hid him somewhere. Just don't agree with that. Can't keep a 13 yo hidden for long. JMO. ER/CR will reverse the "Mark wouldn't hurt DR" soon, IMO. They have no other choice now. IMO.

Hate this back and forth stuff. WE all want DR found and found safely. ALL of us. :(


what if Dylan was taken into a store somewhere? FB could be instrumental in someone taking notice and reporting it.
 
  • #145
I appreciate you and your posts but I think most of this could have been avoided if ER had not blamed MR for doing something to Dylan very early on. As far as any interaction between the two of them that is all I remember her saying. So in my opinion he did not start it. jmo

Dylan was reported missing Monday before Thanksgiving.

Elaine did not do her interview with ABC until the Monday after Thanksgiving.

I don't know what happened within that week between Mark and Elaine but I do remember it being said that Mark wouldn't answer their text or calls.

Why didn't they meet immediately when Elaine got to town? Why didn't they joing forces Tuesday morning after Dylan went missing? I will never understand why they couldn't come together....

Perhaps Mark really made Elaine mad when he texted her instead of calling her about Dylan...I don't know...but

I know one thing, I am not appreciative of his attitude, from day ONE.
 
  • #146
Welcome, lil momma!

You will probably have to wait until Anaya goes away to college before you get the time to catch up again on WS!

:giggle:

:floorlaugh:
Her nanny loves her too much to not want to babysit! LOL I will catch up trust me! :rocker:
 
  • #147
If Dylan was abducted and taken away from the area, yeah FB might be the avenue that helps find him.

~snip

Anyone recall that girl from VA who was kidnapped by her Mom's BF and taken cross country to CA(?) And she was found because she was spotted in a store by some lady that had seen her pic on NGrace?

Well the peeps on FMDR FB have got pics of Dylan spread far and wide across the country, via FB, tweets, etc, etc

Different venue, but it is wide exposure......
and any/all exposure counts when someone is missing...



:twocents:
 
  • #148
Wait... what? Next door neighbor filming? The woman doing the Ustream that The Cheese posted on the last closed thread is NOT a next door neighbor. She lives down the road from MR.

Go back to The Cheese post on the last closed thread. That Ustream has many videos from today. The clues are there as to where she lives is anyone chooses to SLEUTH.

jmo

ETA: I am not going to "out" anyone on WS ... per tos, but we all can look/see for our own selves. JMO.

I assumed that she lived next door since she was comfortably in the neighbors backyard. Like I said, she didn't speak to us.
 
  • #149
~snip

Anyone recall that girl from VA who was kidnapped by her Mom's BF and taken cross country to CA(?) And she was found because she was spotted in a store by some lady that had seen her pic on NGrace?

Well the peeps on FMDR FB have got pics of Dylan spread far and wide across the country, via FB, tweets, etc, etc

Different venue, but it is wide exposure......
and any/all exposure counts when someone is missing...
:twocents:

YES. I remember that.

The perp was with the young girl, and they were sitting outside of a Safeway grocery store in San Francisco. The guy was sitting and asking for donations, and a woman recognized the girl, from watching the story on Nancy Grace. She watched them for awhile and then went inside to have the store employees call 911---but the guy figured it out and he grabbed the girl and they ran towards the Presidio Park. But luckily the cops continued to search for them and found them hiding in the park.
 
  • #150
Brittany Smith and Elizabeth Smart are two kidnapped victims who were recovered by public recognition, out and about with their abductors. As much as it pains me to say, lol, Brittany was recognized due to the NG show, in CA, although she was taken from the SE part of the country. It can happen.
 
  • #151
~snip

Anyone recall that girl from VA who was kidnapped by her Mom's BF and taken cross country to CA(?) And she was found because she was spotted in a store by some lady that had seen her pic on NGrace?

Well the peeps on FMDR FB have got pics of Dylan spread far and wide across the country, via FB, tweets, etc, etc

Different venue, but it is wide exposure......
and any/all exposure counts when someone is missing...



:twocents:

Brittany M. Smith...back in 2010
 
  • #152
imhoo the adversarial family relationship has nothing to do with the topic at hand and only clouds it.

It, from the start, has caused a divide.

Mark Redwine still seems to be communicating with LE and they are the ones investigating this case and the ones that need to be communicated with. Nothing has ever been said from them that he is not communicating.

The man has a flier on his door.

So what does that mean? He has a flier on his door. That is it.

By "helping" if that means contributing to the sites that are pointing fingers at him.. my gosh what would he gain by going there? I have personally read the vitriol there. If I were his lawyer or even his friend I would tell him to stay away from it and just work with LE. I hope he is doing just that.

I have no opinion as to who could be involved or what happened.. all that matters is Dylan being found at this point. The people that need to talk to this man are law enforcement and investigators. If he continues to do that and work with them.. he is doing something to help this investigation. He may not be out waving signs or going on tv but he is talking to the people he needs to talk to. (law enforecement)

They have never said that he has stopped or refused to cooperate.
WRT the above BBM.. IMO regardless of my opinion on when/what/how/where the wide, gaping divide came to be, its been IMO clear that the dynamics are not going to have Dylan's parents(and immediate core family) a united force working relentlessly until their son/brother is found, alive or deceased whatever the case may be..just to FIND HIM and bring their young loved one home..IMO I've known that united front is just not going to be.

So, impo I've never looked at it from a standpoint of Mark being "with"..or joined.. or coming together with Elaine in endeavors such as FB for their son.. IMO there are multiple issues as to why that'd never happen..IMO possibly even certain personal dynamics are likely to be some of the contributing factors to why...such as some of dad's personal dynamics that Cory publicly shared today..that when Mark Redwine believes himself to be "right" that he has zero hesitation of being upfront, and center, with spotlight on him continuing to stand up for what he knows as the truth, as in what's "right".

IMO MOST WOULD AGREE nothing like that is happening, tho.. and imo not happening for any cause be it Dylan or otherwise..its just absent.

IMO IT ISNT HAPPENING and yet THIS IS HIS YOUNGEST SON BEING GONE, NO LONGER HERE, AND NOT A CLUE IF HE IS EVEN ALIVE that Mark Redwine is uncharacteristicly NOT at ALL standing firm, not backing down, relentlessly pursuing that he is right, that he is not involved in his son's no longer being here, and he'll be damned to back down even a step from relentlessly pursuing FINDING DYLAN ..

Because IMO the fact is that Mark's greatest thing he's got on his side is that his dogged determination, and steadfast aggressive hunt for Dylan that in the end when this precious young man, his son is found..then so, too is Mark's innocence shoved in everyone's face without Mark Redwine ever so much as uttering a word to anyone about his once again standing his ground, with no backing down for what he knew was "right"...that "right" being the TRUTH and what's been the truth all along..

None of that in any way whatsoever requires Mark Redwine joining forces with Dylan's mom and brother to show a united front for Dylan to be found.. Mark Redwine is a grown man with alotta years of life experiences under his belt, a man fully capable of standing up for himself, and even going the distance in standing his ground when he knows he's "right" even if others may not agree or see it the way Mark does( I'm speaking of issues IN NO WAY related to Dylan or Dylan's disappearance)..

So, why not now?.. why not here in the situation of literally epic proportions when your youngest son's entire life is whats on the line?..why not use that hard headed aggression of firmly standing your ground, not backing down and be at that forefront in place of Dylan...be the voice for Dylan who cannot speak because he's gone.. plowing forward with that same fierce determination and hard 🤬🤬🤬 stance..using that aggression hunting for your baby boy?

Just as Mark made mention of in today's interview he had made or come upon a connection of what he found to be an excellent avenue of raising funds for Dylan(ie. The raffle he mentioned).. He was irritated with the fact that he says Elaine did not choose to pursue this particular avenue..well..IMO as briefly described above Mark's a man who knows exactly how to get things done, even standing his ground if need be.. and there is absolutely NOTHING OR NO ONE that is stopping him, blocking him, nor in any way keeping him from getting things done in this search for Dylan..There's absolutely no reason that Mark as the other parent to this young, missing child, Dylan can't seek out and move forward with any avenue that he sees fitting that will help find his son..including raising money if that's what he thinks is needed to find Dylan, or if he feels it would somehow provide better or bigger services to aid in the search for his son...

Well..here's a lucrative opportunity according to him that he's complaining his ex wife didn't pursue..well..then IMO step up and get to it..in his opinion this is something that needs to be done to help his son...he came upon or sought out this opportunity so move forward with it.. Elaine has avenues that have already proven successful in raising moneys to aid in the search of Dylan being found and brought home.. she is already well into working various avenues...so, too can Mark be doing the exact same thing, it doesn't have to be just one parent that must being following and pursuing all avenues..so, too can the other parent and anyone else he'd like to bring in to help or assist him in any way.

(* THE ONLY REASON THAT I AM USING THE RAISING FUNDS AVENUE IS DIRECTLY DUE TO MARK'S STATEMENT TODAY ABOUT IT..*)

But yet again I reflect on what's happening and that Mark's uncharacteristically not using his hard headed determination and ability to weather the storm when he knows he's "right" about something... to plant himself in the forefront standing his ground when he knows he's "right" with the ain't nobody gonna be able to prove any different type fortitude.. all of these abilities and strengths would be absolutely priceless at this moment in time when it counts the most with your youngest child's entire life hanging in the balance..

But that's not happening!:banghead:

Mark has much to say WRT what he feels Elaine is doing wrong, about what Elaine's not doing but should be doing, about what Cory is not doing as well as letting everyone know whose fault it really is that Cory has less than an overflowing heart full of love for his dad because that's due to Elaine as well(in that Cory's having issues with dad is the fault of mom because she hates Mark).. OK, now that we have a detailed description of what Elaine and Cory are failing to do correctly in dad's opinion, but....

Again we see nothing happening with Mark using what could be priceless advantages to forging ahead in finding Dylan.. Mark using those type of stubborn-ish steadfast determination abilities that he's used for proving when he knows he's "right" .. he could be taking that similar stance in this fight of a lifetime in finding his son, Dylan!...

But that's NOT HAPPENING!!!!!!!!:banghead:

of course as always these are nothing more than jmo.
 
  • #153
WRT the above BBM.. IMO regardless of my opinion on when/what/how/where the wide, gaping divide came to be, its been IMO clear that the dynamics are not going to have Dylan's parents(and immediate core family) a united force working relentlessly until their son/brother is found, alive or deceased whatever the case may be..just to FIND HIM and bring their young loved one home..IMO I've known that united front is just not going to be.

So, impo I've never looked at it from a standpoint of Mark being "with"..or joined.. or coming together with Elaine in endeavors such as FB for their son.. IMO there are multiple issues as to why that'd never happen..IMO possibly even certain personal dynamics are likely to be some of the contributing factors to why...such as some of dad's personal dynamics that Cory publicly shared today..that when Mark Redwine believes himself to be "right" that he has zero hesitation of being upfront, and center, with spotlight on him continuing to stand up for what he knows as the truth, as in what's "right".

IMO MOST WOULD AGREE nothing like that is happening, tho.. and imo not happening for any cause be it Dylan or otherwise..its just absent.

IMO IT ISNT HAPPENING and yet THIS IS HIS YOUNGEST SON BEING GONE, NO LONGER HERE, AND NOT A CLUE IF HE IS EVEN ALIVE that Mark Redwine is uncharacteristicly NOT at ALL standing firm, not backing down, relentlessly pursuing that he is right, that he is not involved in his son's no longer being here, and he'll be damned to back down even a step from relentlessly pursuing FINDING DYLAN ..

Because IMO the fact is that Mark's greatest thing he's got on his side is that his dogged determination, and steadfast aggressive hunt for Dylan that in the end when this precious young man, his son is found..then so, too is Mark's innocence shoved in everyone's face without Mark Redwine ever so much as uttering a word to anyone about his once again standing his ground, with no backing down for what he knew was "right"...that "right" being the TRUTH and what's been the truth all along..

None of that in any way whatsoever requires Mark Redwine joining forces with Dylan's mom and brother to show a united front for Dylan to be found.. Mark Redwine is a grown man with alotta years of life experiences under his belt, a man fully capable of standing up for himself, and even going the distance in standing his ground when he knows he's "right" even if others may not agree or see it the way Mark does( I'm speaking of issues IN NO WAY related to Dylan or Dylan's disappearance)..

So, why not now?.. why not here in the situation of literally epic proportions when your youngest son's entire life is whats on the line?..why not use that hard headed aggression of firmly standing your ground, not backing down and be at that forefront in place of Dylan...be the voice for Dylan who cannot speak because he's gone.. plowing forward with that same fierce determination and hard 🤬🤬🤬 stance..using that aggression hunting for your baby boy?

Just as Mark made mention of in today's interview he had made or come upon a connection of what he found to be an excellent avenue of raising funds for Dylan(ie. The raffle he mentioned).. He was irritated with the fact that he says Elaine did not choose to pursue this particular avenue..well..IMO as briefly described above Mark's a man who knows exactly how to get things done, even standing his ground if need be.. and there is absolutely NOTHING OR NO ONE that is stopping him, blocking him, nor in any way keeping him from getting things done in this search for Dylan..There's absolutely no reason that Mark as the other parent to this young, missing child, Dylan can't seek out and move forward with any avenue that he sees fitting that will help find his son..including raising money if that's what he thinks is needed to find Dylan, or if he feels it would somehow provide better or bigger services to aid in the search for his son...

Well..here's a lucrative opportunity according to him that he's complaining his ex wife didn't pursue..well..then IMO step up and get to it..in his opinion this is something that needs to be done to help his son...he came upon or sought out this opportunity so move forward with it.. Elaine has avenues that have already proven successful in raising moneys to aid in the search of Dylan being found and brought home.. she is already well into working various avenues...so, too can Mark be doing the exact same thing, it doesn't have to be just one parent that must being following and pursuing all avenues..so, too can the other parent and anyone else he'd like to bring in to help or assist him in any way.

(* THE ONLY REASON THAT I AM USING THE RAISING FUNDS AVENUE IS DIRECTLY DUE TO MARK'S STATEMENT TODAY ABOUT IT..*)

But yet again I reflect on what's happening and that Mark's uncharacteristically not using his hard headed determination and ability to weather the storm when he knows he's "right" about something... to plant himself in the forefront standing his ground when he knows he's "right" with the ain't nobody gonna be able to prove any different type fortitude.. all of these abilities and strengths would be absolutely priceless at this moment in time when it counts the most with your youngest child's entire life hanging in the balance..

But that's not happening!:headbang:

Mark has much to say WRT what he feels Elaine is doing wrong, about what Elaine's not doing but should be doing, about what Cory is not doing as well as letting everyone know whose fault it really is that Cory has less than an overflowing heart full of love for his dad because that's due to Elaine as well(in that Cory's having issues with dad is the fault of mom because she hates Mark).. OK, now that we have a detailed description of what Elaine and Cory are failing to do correctly in dad's opinion, but....

Again we see nothing happening with Mark using what could be priceless advantages to forging ahead in finding Dylan.. Mark using those type of stubborn-ish steadfast determination abilities that he's used for proving when he knows he's "right" .. he could be taking that similar stance in this fight of a lifetime in finding his son, Dylan!...

But that's NOT HAPPENING!!!!!!!!:banghead:


I had no idea where you were headed at first but you wrapped it around nicely. Good post and great points ! :)
 
  • #154
I just went past the TV in the den, which is on mute, and there was Dylan's face on the screen, on KRQE news in Albuquerque. They did a fair piece, covering the gathering, etc. i think CR did a great job.
 
  • #155
Brittany Smith and Elizabeth Smart are two kidnapped victims who were recovered by public recognition, out and about with their abductors. As much as it pains me to say, lol, Brittany was recognized due to the NG show, in CA, although she was taken from the SE part of the country. It can happen.

And Elizabeth Smart was recognized due to AMW. Yes, if a child is alive it can happen. But that is a big IF in this case.
 
  • #156
And Elizabeth Smart was recognized due to AMW. Yes, if a child is alive it can happen. But that is a big IF in this case.

Yes, I agree. I think it unlikely Dylan is being kept by anyone, even if he was abducted.
 
  • #157
And Elizabeth Smart was recognized due to AMW. Yes, if a child is alive it can happen. But that is a big IF in this case.

Where was it said that Elizabeth was recognized due to AMW? Her case was all over the national media for months.
 
  • #158
Where was it said that Elizabeth was recognized due to AMW? Her case was all over the national media for months.

Elizabeth is probably the one child many Americans would have recognized. Very lucky indeed that she had that amount of media.
 
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Where was it said that Elizabeth was recognized due to AMW? Her case was all over the national media for months.

It was all over the news, but until potential abductor had been revealed, it went nowhere.
AMW is the show that revealed her abductor.
AMW even has a clip in the beginning of each show where Elizabeht's father is saying "AMW helped find Elizabeth."
 
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