CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #30

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  • #841
I think if hes smart he has a criminal attorney. Guity or innocent he needs a lawyer!
JMO

I think that it wouldn't be a bad idea if Mark got a good criminal defense attorney. But he might be influenced by people who say that an innocent person doesn't need a lawyer. I've heard that statement in numerous case's that I've followed. MOO.
 
  • #842
It was stated he saw a criminal defense attorney after the search & interrogation, but it may have been just for a one type deal to get advice. I doubt any lawyer would approve of a 2 1/2 hr. interview or taking a 2nd poly, but it would be up to him of course whether he listens or not.
 
  • #843
Well something happend to that child after he got off that plane.
I hope and Pray LE gets the person responsible no matter who it is.
This is one case I really really really want to see solved.
 
  • #844
We don't know if Mark's polygraph was inconclusive, we only know that LE told him that. LE has said that they will not release any information about polygraphs. MOO.

We don't know that it was conclusive but the reporter from last night tweeted that Mark told her that he took a lie detector test and he was told it was inconclusive. So even Mark thinks his test was inconclusive, given that information.

ETA: ooops that is pretty much what you said too. I'm at work with a headache today, should not try and post.
 
  • #845
I think that it wouldn't be a bad idea if Mark got a good criminal defense attorney. But he might be influenced by people who say that an innocent person doesn't need a lawyer. I've heard that statement in numerous case's that I've followed. MOO.

I think if your the last person to be seen with a missing person you need a criminal lawyer! And if it were me I would not care what ppl thought of me.
 
  • #846
I think they know hes out there they must be going by the pings of the pnones
Dylans and Marks.

Very well could be or some kind of targeted searches or maybe even from tips, but I don't think it is random searches.
 
  • #847
It was stated he saw a criminal defense attorney after the search & interrogation, but it may have been just for a one type deal to get advice. I doubt any lawyer would approve of a 2 1/2 hr. interview or taking a 2nd poly, but it would be up to him of course whether he listens or not.
Was it a criminal defense attorney or just a lawyer that he already knows?
 
  • #848
So she'll be answering questions at 5:00 on Channel 9. I wonder if she'll answer any questions we REALLY want the answers to? :)
 
  • #849
Very well could be or some kind of targeted searches or maybe even from tips, but I don't think it is random searches.

I dont think so either!
 
  • #850
I believe you can every text every call when it was made and sent.
providers keep more records now of this stuff just because of crimes so yes they can see times'

But if its on an Ipod I think there is only a record on the other person phone
I dont know how they would track a text sent from an I pod my kids do it.


I think they got this info from someone elses phone
Maybe this person heard there was no activity after 8 and said hey I got one at 9 37.

BBM

I'm still catching up, so I apologize if this has been answered since it was posted and I just haven't gotten to it yet.

I was curious about this when we first started discussing the possibility of the last text coming from an iPod. I did some googling and found that every service you can use to text from an iPod or other device like it, (iMessage is one, but there are several other apps you can download to do the same thing,) is either associated with an email account or an assigned phone number.

Since these are free texting accounts, no records are sent to the owner. BUT records are kept by the providers and they are released to LE with proper warrants. (The articles I saw said you can't get them yourself, only LE and only with a warrant.) Since the report last night said LE had gotten the info on the iPod's email, my guess is that this lately released text was sent by the iPod, and that LE got a warrant and had the records released to them. JMO, and again, my apologies if this has already been addressed.

Now back to reading and trying to catch up after a long day at work. You all have been talking a lot today!
 
  • #851
I think if your the last person to be seen with a missing person you need a criminal lawyer! And if it were me I would not care what ppl thought of me.

That's the reason why some people say you shouldn't get a lawyer. An innocent person would be open and honest about everything and a lawyer will only prevent that. MOO.
 
  • #852
Doesn't say who it is. The article was dated Dec. 2nd, which was a Sunday.


http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_22108222/dad-its-wait-wonder

"Reality starting to set in"
And he is trying to deal with the added weight of knowing that some people think he had something to do with his son's disappearance because he was the last one to see him. He has contacted a criminal-defense attorney to help him with that.
 
  • #853
So she'll be answering questions at 5:00 on Channel 9. I wonder if she'll answer any questions we REALLY want the answers to? :)

And hearing her answers are not the same as seeing them given on tape, anyway, IMO.
 
  • #854
Doesn't say who it is. The article was dated Dec. 2nd, which was a Sunday.


http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_22108222/dad-its-wait-wonder

"Reality starting to set in"
And he is trying to deal with the added weight of knowing that some people think he had something to do with his son's disappearance because he was the last one to see him. He has contacted a criminal-defense attorney to help him with that.
Thanks for the link Dee, your memory is much better than mine.
 
  • #855
I found that I do in fact have a twitter. I signed up apparently a long time ago, and in my usual creative style, my name on there is DylansMom. I'd probably freak out some of her followers if I started tweeting with her.

:floorlaugh:
 
  • #856
I tweeted asking her if LE has asked for a 2nd poly & why hasn't he taken it if asked? Something like that. We'll see...
 
  • #857
**I'm still obviously behind and am catching up**

Ok, just thought of this, remember the other day when we were all wondering about the last electronic device being used at 9:37? We all saw the text from R and knew full well that they stopped at around 8:01 and then R sent Dylan a text at 9:27 pm.

Are you all still there? jk
Some of us thought that it was a lie by LE, that they planted it because they don't have to give all the facts and it was discounted as a typo, confusion, everything.

Still there?

Mark said in the interview that he went to bed and Dylan was texting away.

That means Mark went to be at 8:01

Who does that? What parent that is excited to see his child goes to bed at 8 pm leaving him there to text. He didn't mention he went to bed and said get to bed soon, we have to get you to R's house at 630. Nothing, just that he went to bed and Dylan was sitting there texting. Not watching tv, nothing, Dylan was texting.

Do you think that was the reason LE said the last thing was 937? Nowing it was a lie, and waiting for a slip up.
Then a few days later Mark has that in his head and brought that out there. He went to bed and Dylan was texting (would make more sense at 937 vs 8)Just like so many of his comments that seem to be as if he is answering questions poised and his story changes.
You bring up some interesting points, AZ.. might I add that not only is the above correct IMO, but a further contradictory statement on Mark's part is that he and Dylan watched a movie til 10:30pm and at that time is when Mark went to bed while leaving an awake and still texting Dyaln on the couch..

So, this further makes the times Mark is now claiming inconsistent..Especially inconsistent with Dylan's last communicating with ANYONE.. IMO Dylan never made contact with ANYONE in ANYWAY(ie.cell phone OUTGOING call/text, iPod OUTGOING communication, via computer, or any other device, period) shortly after 8pm..

Jmo but I have never waivered, nor had any reason to doubt or not believe the info from mom, Elaine..

Continuing in pointing out the stark contradictions made by Mark Redwine is the fact that he up until now has stayed firm that Dylan was tired and went to bed early that Sunday night.. now completely contradicting those claims he states that he, MARK went to bed at 10:30 with an awake and texting Dylan on the couch.. this statement indicating that Mark Redwine not only has changed the original statements of Dylan to bed "early", but also completely negating that Mark Redwine even has the knowledge, period of when his son went to sleep..

IMO These are not just additional details as some have opined them to be. They are completely contradictory statements that actually negate each other, as in one statement CANNOT BE TRUE, IF THE OTHER IS TRUE.

Baffling and so very sad IMO.:(

My take in these interviews, and it' MY OPINION,

Mark did ask for the return of his son, he pleaded to whoever had him to return him.

His eyes were red rimmed like he'd been crying.

He looked at the interviewer when he answered.

Elaine wouldn't look at the camera/interviewer when she answered that question. She seemed to hesitate and weigh her words, starting talking about something else before answering the question. I didn't think she was going to answer it to start with.

I didn't see a loaded gun on the table.

I think the information about Dylan texting when he went to bed may be new to us but not new to LE. And he didn't CHANGE is story, he added more information to it.

This is all my opinion. And I get to have it. Thank you.
So, what exactly is your opinion of the observations made in the above post regarding your opinion on how Elaine handled herself or answered questions?

What are these above observations indicative of IN YOUR OPINION?

The revised story has a glaring inconsistency from the interview from last night (or maybe I'm losing my mind). In the interview shown last night, Mark says he went to bed and Dylan was on the couch texting. He must have gone to bed pretty late if what is now showing on the written story is true because he claims that he and Dylan were watching a movie until about 10:30 p.m.

Well, if Dylan's last text was at 9:37 p.m., that is inconsistent with Mark's statement that they watched a movie and then when Mark went to bed, Dylan was on the couch, still texting.

Also, the only time I saw something that resembled possibly real tears/emotion from Mark was when he was talking about the road trip to Boston. It seemed when he was talking about the last time he saw his child when he was trying to wake him up for 45 minutes on Monday morning, there seemed to be zero emotion then. Why so emotional about a trip but not emotional about the last time he ever laid eyes on his child?

Now, granted, the reporter said she interviewed Mark for 2.5 hours and we got to see about 2 minutes of it so maybe there was some other emotion somewhere else in the uncut interview.
Yep, ITA!
 
  • #858
One of the reasons I think Mark is behind this is because Dylan cared enough to ask about R's grandma and being there at 6:30am . So he is a kind and considerate teenager one would think from the texts . And yet that all goes out the window by not texting of calling R the following morning . Am I really meant to believe Dylan's personality traits changed within 12 hours and he became selfish and gave no thought to his friend who was waiting on him ?!

:cow:

I am still hung up on why R told Dylan to knock to wake him up and ALSO to call him. Still doesn't make sense to me. Also, why didn't R send a couple of text messages to Dylan when Dylan didn't show up at 6:30? I mean, even I will text someone every 10-15 minutes if they don't show up, figuring for some reason they didn't receive my first text. These just don't add up for me.
 
  • #859
I am still hung up on why R told Dylan to knock to wake him up and ALSO to call him. Still doesn't make sense to me. Also, why didn't R send a couple of text messages to Dylan when Dylan didn't show up at 6:30? I mean, even I will text someone every 10-15 minutes if they don't show up, figuring for some reason they didn't receive my first text. These just don't add up for me.

R did text him and ask him where he was . He got no reply so went back to sleep I assume . R then texted him later on .

R has also stated he would of expected Dylan to text him to cancel or explain what was going on . So Dylan's behaviour was not the norm on that Monday :cow:
 
  • #860
Maybe he was concerned he wouldn't hear Dylan knocking and wanted to make sure he could let Dylan in, so he asked that Dylan also called him.
He texted Dylan several times the next day, first asking him where he was, then telling him to go to a new location. He is a teenage boy, what would you expect him to do? They are not generally the type to be overly concerned when someone doesn't respond right away.
 
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