CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #30

[SCHMAE]

If Dylan was on the couch texting when MR went to bed (after the late night movie), where are these texts? He can't be referring to the texts between RN and Dylan because that would have been way earlier.
I can't see LE withholding these texts from us but releasing the news of the 9:37 communication. That would make no sense.
It seems LE feels certain that Dylan made it to the house though.

If the CONTENT of those texts is disturbing or enlightening, I can see them withholding them as well as the other sender !

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

First has there been any confirmed evidence that Dylan was at the house other than the Fathers word, I'm not referring to evidence the father claims,

But it seems that LE believes this. Surely that is based on more than just the father's word.
They must know where the phone was pinging when Dylan was texting RN.

 

[jjenny]

If Dylan was on the couch texting when MR went to bed (after the late night movie), where are these texts? He can't be referring to the texts between RN and Dylan because that would have been way earlier.
I can't see LE withholding these texts from us but releasing the news of the 9:37 communication. That would make no sense.
It seems LE feels certain that Dylan made it to the house though.

If last text was at 9:37 pm (which is what police said), and MR and Dylan watched a movie until 10:30 pm, then didn't go to bed while Dylan was texting.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

If the CONTENT of those texts is disturbing or enlightening, I can see them withholding them as well as the other sender !

Well maybe? But why tell us about the 9:37 communication? Was that their way of telling us that they have confirmed that Dylan was at the house?

Gosh, I sure would like to know where that phone was pinging with the RN texts.

 

[jjenny]

Well maybe? But why tell us about the 9:37 communication? Was that their way of telling us that they have confirmed that Dylan was at the house?

Gosh, I sure would like to know where that phone was pinging with the RN texts.

Police specifically released that 9:37 pm text was the last, as a clue.
They would not be lying about that.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

If last text was at 9:37 pm (which is what police said), and MR and Dylan watched a movie until 10:30 pm, then didn't go to bed while Dylan was texting.

Exactly, and this is where I'm confused. Did they watch a movie until 10:30 or watch a movie at 10:30?

 

[jjenny]

Exactly, and this is where I'm confused. Did they watch a movie until 10:30 or watch a movie at 10:30?

Either way (movie until 10:30 or movie at 10:30) Dylan would not be texting as MR went to bed. Because texting stopped almost an hour before 10:30.

 

[SCHMAE]

If a stranger came in and took him Id say yes!
Hard to prove a family member did something cause they live there.
not always evidence!

But what if the stranger was a somewhat familiar person and not a stranger AND what if they never entered . Knock knock with gloves on because it's cold. " WHer'es your dad? '' " oh you want me to give u a ride, i'm going that way '' , etc. Maybe this person never crossed the threshold .

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Police specifically released that 9:37 pm text was the last, as a clue.
They would not be lying about that.

I don't believe they would either. I think this is their way of saying they have confirmation that he was at the house.

BUT this is not jiving with MR's story. I guess Dylan could have been messaging people via iPod or computer and LE didn't find it? MR said 'texting' but he didn't say on what device.

 

[jjenny]

I don't believe they would either. I think this is their way of saying they have confirmation that he was at the house.

BUT this is not jiving with MR's story. I guess Dylan could have been messaging people via iPod or computer and LE didn't find it? MR said 'texting' but he didn't say on what device.

I am positive LE looked at all the devices Dyaln could have texted with. That's why they say last text was at 9:37 pm but don't say which device was used.
Possibly an ipod was used for this text, since mother previously said texting on cell phone stopped at around 8 pm.

 

[Kimster]

How long does a body have to be "dead" before it emits an odor these dogs can pick up? Anyone know? Minutes? Hours?

I saw a professional on TV who said they can detect a scent immediately upon death, that our bodies emit an odor right away. Let me see if I can find one of our verified dog handlers to answer this question for you though because coming from me, it is strictly MOO. :moo:

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

How would MR know what Dylan was doing on his iPod or the computer? If he was sitting there hitting buttons he could have been playing a game for all he knows. Unless he specifically asked him what he was doing how would he know?
Is it possible he was messaging people on facebook or something and MR is calling that 'texting'? Would LE be able to find records of this?
This gets more confusing by the day!

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Forgive me, but I am behind.

You know what doesn't make sense to me? That a father could fight to keep his visitation rights and go to the trouble of flying his son to be with him on the holiday and then do something to hurt or kill him within hours of his arrival. THAT makes no sense to me. Yet it is thrown around here on a daily basis.
There are many, many crimes committed every day in this country that make no sense, yet they happen. EVERY DAY. Because they don't make sense to logical, reasonable people... but they make sense to whoever does them, which is something we will never figure out. Ask any LEO, they will tell you that they see things all the time that do not, and will not EVER make sense.

IMO it would have appeared more suspicious if Dylan had disappeared near the end of his visit. By him going mising so soon and because he fought the change of custody people would be more inclined to think he was a poor dad who was just really unlucky to have his son disappear while at his place.

also if Dylan had disappeared later in the visit there would have been a lot of details for MR to have to remember, this way he keeps it to the bare minimum, the les he has to remember the less chance of him putting his foot in it.

parents fighting in court for custody/access doesn't always mean the parent wants to spend time with their child, often its used as a tool to get at the other parent. the ex of one of my friends always started new court proceedings close to dates like the childs and mothers birthday, xmas, easter and mothers day, it was all about making her suffer because she had ended their relationship due to his abuse. He refused to accept that their relationship was over and when he found out she had someone new in her life he got even worse with his stalking and threats against her and their child. She was terrified and moved far away.

 

[jjenny]

How would MR know what Dylan was doing on his iPod or the computer? If he was sitting there hitting buttons he could have been playing a game for all he knows. Unless he specifically asked him what he was doing how would he know?
Is it possible he was messaging people on facebook or something and MR is calling that 'texting'? Would LE be able to find records of this?
This gets more confusing by the day!

I know Dylan last texted at 9:37 pm because police said so. I am not going to obsess over 10:30 pm supposed movie time because police haven't said anything about that.

 

[mck16]

How would MR know what Dylan was doing on his iPod or the computer? If he was sitting there hitting buttons he could have been playing a game for all he knows. Unless he specifically asked him what he was doing how would he know?
Is it possible he was messaging people on facebook or something and MR is calling that 'texting'? Would LE be able to find records of this?
This gets more confusing by the day!

I was about to comment the very same thing. He could have been playing a game or posting on FB or Instagram. Does DR have an Instagram account? JMO

 

[Tennlyn]

Hypothetically speaking, if MR is the #1 suspect but LE doesn't want him to totally clam up so they aren't calling him a suspect, etc.;
then, I suppose LE would have to go along with MR's story that Dylan was at the house even if LE doesn't believe Dylan ever made it to the house. kwim?

I just don't know what to think at this point. :crazy:

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I really do wonder what LE thinks of all of this. IF they show no evidence of Dylan communicating via text any time after 9:37 then MR makes this statement that conflicts with that....hmmmm....
On the flip side it's quite possible that this is the exact story MR has told from the beginning and everything matches up with what they've found and they just aren't telling us everything.

 

[jjenny]

I was about to comment the very same thing. He could have been playing a game or posting on FB or Instagram. Does DR have an Instagram account? JMO

What exactly happened to the story that Dylan was tired from being up until 4 am the night before and therefore wanting to go to bed?

 

[Flutterflies]

bbm ubm

You are spot on about that indicating deception.
I was simply astounded when I saw her eyes looking down
and to the left, she starts off looking quickly to the right, then left!
Eye contact with reporter was minimal, if any, during that particular part.
Also, astounded by the hesitation and stammering.
She had to of known this question would be asked.
This is a red flag for me and very concerning.
It cannot be explained away by the grief process.

MOO

Yes, you do, and I agree with you. I just watched it. Mark answered the questions without hesitation, looked the reporter in the eye, sounded very sincere, to me. I forgot to look if there was a gun on the table.

When she was asked if she had anything to do with Dylan's disappearance, Elaine hesitated... not just once, but twice. When she did answer she looked down and to the left. If I am not mistaken, that indicates deception, according to many body language experts. My opinion is that she did not want to answer that question, for whatever reason. I am not saying I think she is involved directly, only that she did not want to answer the question. She certainly did not hesitate when asked anything about Mark's involvement or about whether he has taken a 2nd polygraph, so that is odd that she had a hard time getting the words out then.

JMO, and mods say all opinions are welcome.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

What exactly happened to the story that Dylan was tired from being up until 4 am the night before and therefore wanting to go to bed?

And that too...I can't remember, did he say what time he fell asleep when he was talking about that? Wasn't it shortly after arriving home or something?