CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #31

[dlc]

Maybe he had to pee.

?????

 

[NC Analyzer]

To be specific, I mean that Dylan had no communication problems with any of his devices on Sunday November 18th.

The following morning, Monday November 19th, he overslept way past the 6:30 AM time that he had arranged with his friends.

His dad tried repeatedly to get him up, but Dylan was tired and he didn't get up. Mark had some appointments that he didn't want to be late with so he left.

Sometime later Dylan gets up, checks his messages, and see's that R is looking for him. He decides to not contact R right away because he knows that R will give him a hard time for sleeping in.

So he has some cereal, and decides to leave the house and hitchhike to meet up with his friends. He figures that when he gets a good signal on his phone he will call R and let him know what's up.

After Dylan leaves the house something happens to him. MOO.

BBM: NO cell activity whatsoever since Sunday night. Per Bender.
ETA: Impossible to check messages.

 

[NC Analyzer]

Anyone have any short tweet length questions for MB?

 

[The Cheese]

Debbie Taylor ‏@D76013
@MelissaBlasius @SherryGrondin why did Dylan's last text change from 8:01pm to 9:3pm

Melissa Blasius ‏@MelissaBlasius
@SherryGrondin Dylan Redwine used cell until 9:37 the night prior to disappearing, and not at all after that. Dad's story = Detective's

 

[Deleted member 39678]

BBM: NO cell activity whatsoever since Sunday night. Per Bender.
ETA: Impossible to check messages.

So that means you can't check your text messages without leaving a trail? I didn't know that. Wait a minute, why can't you?

 

[catswhiskers]

Just my two bobs worth about the backpack - Dylan was staying for 6 days I believe? From the airport security camera grab his backpack wasn't stuffed right to the top with gear - if anything it's hanging rather floppily and half empty looking around his hips from what I can see. IMO he probably packed very lightly - maybe only a change or two of clothes. He wouldn't have needed to take his own toiletries to stay with dad, so I would guess he had maybe one or two pairs of shorts, a couple of t-shirts, socks and a hoodie - and that might be being generous. I see that he would just pick up his backpack, throw in his phone and charger and head out, without even thinking of unpacking anything. By the sounds of it wearing the same clothes he wore the day before.
We recently spent a week at the beach, and my 13 yo packed everything he wanted to take into the side pocket of his laptop bag! And yes the laptop was already in the bag.
My sons routinely wear their clothes to bed and then still the next day. Do I have anything to say about it? Sure, but there isn't really any way I can force them to change - they just laugh off my concerns. I'm pretty strict with them in a lot of other ways, but I pick my battles and what they choose to wear is not necessarily one of them.
I'm guessing Dylan wouldn't have seen the need to carry lots of clothing on a visit to his dad's, or expected his dad to be too worried if he wore the same clothes for more than a day.

:moo:

 

[The Cheese]

Melissa Blasius ‏@MelissaBlasius
@D76013 @SherryGrondin 8pm came from a teen friend whom Dylan was texting. Investigators recently confirmed the real last text time- 9:37.

 

[NC Analyzer]

So that means you can't check your text messages without leaving a trail? I didn't know that. Wait a minute, why can't you?

No cell activity after 9:37 pm Sunday night. Nothing received on the cell phone to check the next morning. No messages came through after the 9:37pm time as stated by LE. You cannot check a message when the phone doesn't receive the message in the first place.

 

[Ghostwheel]

To be specific, I mean that Dylan had no communication problems with any of his devices on Sunday November 18th.

The following morning, Monday November 19th, he overslept way past the 6:30 AM time that he had arranged with his friends.

His dad tried repeatedly to get him up, but Dylan was tired and he didn't get up. Mark had some appointments that he didn't want to be late with so he left.

Sometime later Dylan gets up, checks his messages, and see's that R is looking for him. He decides to not contact R right away because he knows that R will give him a hard time for sleeping in.

So he has some cereal, and decides to leave the house and hitchhike to meet up with his friends. He figures that when he gets a good signal on his phone he will call R and let him know what's up.

After Dylan leaves the house something happens to him. MOO.

Gotcha. Your theory assumes:
There were no problems with any of his electronics (or at least ALL of his electronics) after 8:00 pm on Sunday.
That everything Mark said is correct. (What if Dylan pretended to be "out like a light" for some reason, as an example? Or if Mark is not telling the whole truth. Just a thought).
The signal when he left the house was no good, although the signal was fine IN the house.

I'm not on board with that theory, but it is possible.

 

[Ghostwheel]

No cell activity after 9:37 pm Sunday night. Nothing received on the cell phone to check the next morning. No messages came through after the 9:37pm time as stated by LE. You cannot check a message when the phone doesn't receive the message in the first place.

Great. Have you got a link that says LE states the 9:37 text was on the cell phone? TIA

 

[cluciano63]

I got the impression that ER was swallowing her contempt that she has been put in a position, in her mind by MR, to be even asked if she had anything to do with Dylan being missing. Maybe a little contempt toward the reporter as well.

I think I would have lost it. Screaming that Dylan was not even safe with his father for one lousy day.

As far as a local perv, not an RSO. We have seen some cases like this over the past two years, nearly all girls and mostly much younger. They do happen, but his age would make it more rare. But possible, in which case he was probably left within fifteen or twenty miles, maybe even closer, but not right nearby. The perp would not want to be unaccounted for, for long. And if he has not raised eyebrows before, he may get away with it.

But even that option, IMO, would mean Dylan left with contacting anyone and I am not at all convinced he would do that. He would not, IMO, be embarrassed enough that he overslept to still not want to know exactly where R and others would be when he did arrive.

 

[dlc]

Does anyone know who was actually interviewed for Melissa Balsius' series? Was it just MR, ER, CR and Office Bender? And, I think, AzGrandma?

 

[The Cheese]

No cell activity after 9:37 pm Sunday night. Nothing received on the cell phone to check the next morning. No messages came through after the 9:37pm time as stated by LE. You cannot check a message when the phone doesn't receive the message in the first place.

I'm not seeing where LE stated no messages came in/were received after 9:37. Can you help me out please? TIA

 

[deoneta]

Anyone have any short tweet length questions for MB?

...Was R expecting Dylan to sleepover on his visit?.. No idea if this ever came up with MR (or anyone else), but it's something I'd like to know. I was the most permissive hippie generation late life mom ever, and I never allowed spontaneous sleepovers with no prior permission.

 

[Dixie811]

Just my two bobs worth about the backpack - Dylan was staying for 6 days I believe? From the airport security camera grab his backpack wasn't stuffed right to the top with gear - if anything it's hanging rather floppily and half empty looking around his hips from what I can see. IMO he probably packed very lightly - maybe only a change or two of clothes. He wouldn't have needed to take his own toiletries to stay with dad, so I would guess he had maybe one or two pairs of shorts, a couple of t-shirts, socks and a hoodie - and that might be being generous. I see that he would just pick up his backpack, throw in his phone and charger and head out, without even thinking of unpacking anything. By the sounds of it wearing the same clothes he wore the day before.
We recently spent a week at the beach, and my 13 yo packed everything he wanted to take into the side pocket of his laptop bag! And yes the laptop was already in the bag.
My sons routinely wear their clothes to bed and then still the next day. Do I have anything to say about it? Sure, but there isn't really any way I can force them to change - they just laugh off my concerns. I'm pretty strict with them in a lot of other ways, but I pick my battles and what they choose to wear is not necessarily one of them.
I'm guessing Dylan wouldn't have seen the need to carry lots of clothing on a visit to his dad's, or expected his dad to be too worried if he wore the same clothes for more than a day.

:moo:

Also, didn't we hear at one point in time that Dylan was going to spend the first part of the week with friends? Then toward the end of the week MR was considering he & Dylan going to his brother's for thanksgiving. Maybe Dylan was hoping to stay with friends in Bayfield for 1 or 2 nights (that would eliminate the issue of getting rides back & forth between Bayfield & Vallecito). Would explain why he would leave everything in his backpack Sunday night... he would probably want to bring the few clothes he had with him.

 

[NC Analyzer]

Great. Have you got a link that says LE states the 9:37 text was on the cell phone? TIA

I was answering Ranch's question about why the cell messages couldn't be checked the next morning...I'm not saying the cell was the only place D could have gotten a message, but Ranch asked about the cell phone. I agree that we don't really know that information, although MB is rather insistent that it was a cell text. If anyone else has more input, feel free.

 

[Ghostwheel]

I shouldn't be addressing this issue I guess since I just admitted to being totally befuddled, but I can't seem to let go of the idea that the simplest explanation for the 9:37 communication was the receipt of R's 9:27 text. I realize that it's been reported as ongoing, but I too wonder if it's true or if it's something that was assumed and later taken as fact. Also count me in as one of those who just can't believe Dylan would set out for Bayfield without contacting R. Something else that bothers me is the theory that Dylan took all his belongings because he planned to sleepover. Maybe, but it's never been established that a sleepover was the plan. If there was to be a sleepover, it seems it would have been easier to let Dylan go to R's house Sunday night and pick him up after errands Monday morning.

Yes, I agree the simplest explanation for a 9:37 text would be to respond to a 9:27 text. But again, I have seen no report that says LEconfirms that the 9:37 text was a response to the 9:27 text. In fact, any reference to the 9:37 text does not say who it was to.

I also find it strange that a 13 year old boy would manage to not leave ANYTHING behind at his father's house, even by accident. I, personally, don't know of any 13 year old boy (or girl) who doesn't lose at least one sock under the sofa when they get kicked off. He either really did not want to be there, or someone else gathered his backpack along with Dylan.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

No cell activity after 9:37 pm Sunday night. Nothing received on the cell phone to check the next morning. No messages came through after the 9:37pm time as stated by LE. You cannot check a message when the phone doesn't receive the message in the first place.

So your saying that all of the possible texting via iPod is not realistic because LE is saying that the 9:37PM text was from Dylan's phone.

Well that opens up why there was no cell phone activity in the morning because Dylan's phone obviously was dead by then. MOO.

 

[Ghostwheel]

So that means you can't check your text messages without leaving a trail? I didn't know that. Wait a minute, why can't you?

Your phone has to communicate with a tower to check for messages. If no tower, no ping, no messages.

 

[NC Analyzer]

I'm not seeing where LE stated no messages came in/were received after 9:37. Can you help me out please? TIA

Video. Bender made the statement. I do believe there are other quotes one or two pages back. And this is in reference to the cell phone only. I've never said anything about communication involving the ipod or the pc. I was just responding to Ranch's statement that Dylan checked his messages the next morning...which would not be possible because Bender said No activity on D's phone past 9:37 pm Sunday evening, which means nothing in and nothing out on that cell.