CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #33

[katydid23]

IA, first shocked and panic set in and you just can't think. You are trying to think of where he could be, what he could be doing. By the time he got to the Marshall's Office, he was probably beside himself, especially after finding out Elaine hadn't heard from him either. Your mind shuts down so you don't feel the panic and devastation.

More shall be revealed. As time has gone by, I'm sure he's remembering more details about his short time with Dylan. There is not instant recall to everything that was said and done at that moment. IMO

I disagree. My very good friends DD went missing last summer. She came over to show me the note she left on her bed. And she thought back to their conversation the night before. She was very upset but her mind did not shut down. She was hyper, if anything. She was recalling lots of details, hoping something would help her figure out where her daughter ran away to and with whom.

I went to the Police station with her and she was able to recall their most recent interactions and the names of possible people involved. I think there is a sort of 'instant' recall when there is an emergency. JMO

 

[mck16]

Seeing as how we are discussing the last known words of a missing child, I don't see the humor in that. Good night

Good night.

 

[mck16]

NO, but he came back at 11:30, and his kid was gone. He must have thought back at that point, remembering what was said, IF ANYTHING, earlier that morning.

And then later that afternoon, talking to the cops about his LAST CONVERSATION with his son, surely he could remember something that crucially important, from earlier that day?

I think he did but for some reason no one wants to believe him or give him credit for it. jmo

 

[cluciano63]

I think he did but for some reason no one wants to believe him or give him credit for it. jmo

Can you elaborate?

 

[katydid23]

I think he did but for some reason no one wants to believe him or give him credit for it. jmo

My problem is that there is such a big difference between his early versions and his later versions.

The same with his early versions of what he did when he came home. ALL of the early articles say that MR texted D and went out to search for him all afternoon, before driving to Bayfield.

But now we hear that he came home and took a NAP. Why wasn't that in any earlier versions?

 

[sunni]

Dr Phil only books guests that can enrich Dr Phil's bank account. He doesn't book guests to help people. He needs drama.

I lost what little respect I had for him when he paid George and Cindy Anthony the big bucks to spew their lies. Mark should stay far away from any of Dr Phil's manufactured drama. MOO.

:goodpost:

 

[asyousay]

The whole "nap" thing is strange . He makes plans with Dylan to pick him up at 11:30am and he tries to call him or text him on the way home and Dylan does not reply . He gets home and Dylan has gone . So surely you keep tryin to ring him to find out where he has vanished to , you do not take a 2/3 hour nap :cow: ... Whatever has happened this is very lazy parenting at best !

 

[cluciano63]

The thing is, if MR was casual enough about Dylan being unreachable and un-findable, it is no wonder LE figured he just took off. He also made it sound as though he felt that ER was overreacting i.e. all hell broke loose once he texted her. HER reaction was normal, IMO, and would have been the same, I wager, if she had found out at noon, instead of 4-5pm, or whenever it was he finally notified her. She knows Dylan and the idea of not being about to reach him, and that he would set out on foot when he had a scheduled ride, made no sense to her immediately.

I said before, Terri Horman acted shocked that Desiree was actually going to make the drive up that night when she learned Kyron was missing-what?? What mother would not? Her being shocked reminded me of MR's "all hell broke loose" comment.

 

[Confusion]

The thing is, if MR was casual enough about Dylan being unreachable and un-findable, it is no wonder LE figured he just took off. He also made it sound as though he felt that ER was overreacting i.e. all hell broke loose once he texted her. HER reaction was normal, IMO, and would have been the same, I wager, if she had found out at noon, instead of 4-5pm, or whenever it was he finally notified her. She knows Dylan and the idea of not being about to reach him, and that he would set out on foot when he had a scheduled ride, made no sense to her immediately.

I said before, Terri Horman acted shocked that Desiree was actually going to make the drive up that night when she learned Kyron was missing-what?? What mother would not? Her being shocked reminded me of MR's "all hell broke loose" comment.

That isn't exactly true. In her uncut interview, Elaine said that she had tried texting Dylan later Sunday and on Monday, but she assumed he hadn't responded because he was having fun with his friends. That's pretty much the same thing Mark said about it. Since he knew how much Dylan wanted to see his friends, why would it be so unbelievable that he might think he had just called and gotten a different ride over there? MOO

 

[nikb]

Greetings fellow sleuths -

This is my first posting here, so I wanted to say hello and briefly introduce myself. I've been a lurker here for a long time, and I think I've read every single post in the Dylan Redwine forum. I've followed each development daily, have made pages of notes, cross-referenced information, and tried to use every ounce of knowledge, experience, and a healthy dose of intuition to help find an answer and bring Dylan home. The posted videos (especially the outtakes from the TV interviews) are very interesting.

My background includes 10+ years of search and rescue experience and although I am not law enforcement, I have spent a considerable amount of time working with police and detectives over the years. I would in no way consider myself an expert in missing persons but I've picked up a lot of knowledge over the years which will hopefully yield some insight into cases such as this. If I miss any forum rules along the way please nudge me – I definitely want to contribute in a positive fashion and following all guidelines.

Thanks!

Welcome! So glad to 'see' you here, and I'll be interested to read your insights.

 

[Seajay]

Seeing as how we are discussing the last known words of a missing child, I don't see the humor in that. Good night

Goodnight. Sleep well.

 

[cluciano63]

That isn't exactly true. In her uncut interview, Elaine said that she had tried texting Dylan later Sunday and on Monday, but she assumed he hadn't responded because he was having fun with his friends. That's pretty much the same thing Mark said about it. Since he knew how much Dylan wanted to see his friends, why would it be so unbelievable that he might think he had just called and gotten a different ride over there? MOO

I think he would have left a note or called his father, and I think once ER heard that MR had had no actual contact with Dylan either, she would have been very worried and shocked. It is one thing not to be able reach him from hundreds of miles away, quite another if the local parent had not exchanged so much as a word with him all day, except maybe a mumbled "I understand".

 

[asyousay]

That isn't exactly true. In her uncut interview, Elaine said that she had tried texting Dylan later Sunday and on Monday, but she assumed he hadn't responded because he was having fun with his friends. That's pretty much the same thing Mark said about it. Since he knew how much Dylan wanted to see his friends, why would it be so unbelievable that he might think he had just called and gotten a different ride over there? MOO

Because Dylan had acknowledged the fact Mark was comin back to pick him up . So the fact Mark could not reach him and Dylan had not texted him should of been a worry to him .

 

[cluciano63]

Because Dylan had acknowledged the fact Mark was comin back to pick him up . So the fact Mark could not reach him and Dylan had not texted him should of been a worry to him .

At least in one version, he acknowledged him...

 

[aust amateur slueth]

This was said two days later:

Redwine said that law enforcement even suggested that the Redwines, divorced six years ago, get mediation so they can work together better to find Dylan. So far, he said, Elaine has not accepted.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20130126/NEWS01/130129704/Demonstrators-call-out-Mark-Redwine

IIRC he was going to arrange a mediator thoguh his divorce attorney, 2 days later MR he was complaining that she hadn't accepted. Do we know if he ever actually arranged a mediator?

I have a nagging thought that it could have been MB the woman on Channel 9 that is negotiating this appearance on Phil's show. This maybe where we will see the missing hour of the interview. And if they run any part of MR's interview they need him there. Just a thought. jmo

there is no missing hour of interview, MB did a total of 2 1.2 hours of inteviews with 7 people IIRC, not all of them were released.

He did not know that was going to be the last time he saw his child. Good grief. I am sure if he had known that he would have wriitten it down. jmo

when you lose someone unexpectedly you tend to remember the last conversation you had with them vividly. I can still tell you the final conversation I had with people I loved who passed away, from last year to more than 20 years ago and one who disappeared (found deceased more than 6 months later). you replay the conversation over and over in your head, no need to record it or write it down, it just stays locked in your memory.

 

[Confusion]

Because Dylan had acknowledged the fact Mark was comin back to pick him up . So the fact Mark could not reach him and Dylan had not texted him should of been a worry to him .

In your opinion. I know many 13-14 year-olds who may be well intentioned, but they aren't always conscientious when it comes to things like responding to texts, leaving notes, etc. Maybe Dylan would have sent him a text to let him know, but MR doesn't seem to believe it's unthinkable that he might forget. MOO

 

[asyousay]

In your opinion. I know many 13-14 year-olds who may be well intentioned, but they aren't always conscientious when it comes to things like responding to texts, leaving notes, etc. Maybe Dylan would have sent him a text to let him know, but MR doesn't seem to believe it's unthinkable that he might forget. MOO

Who elses opinion would it be ?

Of course Mark says that . But as I believe he has role to play here I don't take everything he says as gospel . For somebody that always put Dylan first I find it hard to swallow he just took a 2/3 hour nap when he had no idea where his son was and couldn't reach him .

 

[aust amateur slueth]

That isn't exactly true. In her uncut interview, Elaine said that she had tried texting Dylan later Sunday and on Monday, but she assumed he hadn't responded because he was having fun with his friends. That's pretty much the same thing Mark said about it. Since he knew how much Dylan wanted to see his friends, why would it be so unbelievable that he might think he had just called and gotten a different ride over there? MOO

the difference being that Dylan was in MRs care at the time, ER didn't know what their plans were for the day, for all she knew Dylan may not have been in an area with cell service or he could have been busy. She trusted that his father was in charge and was responsible for him.

 

[Confusion]

IIRC he was going to arrange a mediator thoguh his divorce attorney, 2 days later MR he was complaining that she hadn't accepted. Do we know if he ever actually arranged a mediator?

there is no missing hour of interview, MB did a total of 2 1.2 hours of inteviews with 7 people IIRC, not all of them were released.

when you lose someone unexpectedly you tend to remember the last conversation you had with them vividly. I can still tell you the final conversation I had with people I loved who passed away, from last year to more than 20 years ago and one who disappeared (found deceased more than 6 months later). you replay the conversation over and over in your head, no need to record it or write it down, it just stays locked in your memory.

Some of us aren't really that emotional, I guess. I not only don't remember what my last words were from people who have died, I don't even remember the subject of any of the conversations. In fact, I don't remember the date that anyone died (other than a grandmother who died on my best friend's birthday, and a grandfather whose death is marked on a calendar that's hanging on my wall), that includes both parents, a step-parent, 2 grandparents, a few very close friends, and others that I was close to. The day of death isn't what I care to remember about any of them; I'd prefer to remember conversations that actually meant something at the time they took place. MOO

 

[Confusion]

Who elses opinion would it be ?

Of course Mark says that . But as I believe he has role to play here I don't take everything he says as gospel . For somebody that always put Dylan first I find it hard to swallow he just took a 2/3 hour nap when he had no idea where his son was and couldn't reach him .

You stated it as fact, and I was just clarifying that. MOO