CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #34

[Seajay]

Don't you go over their house...and see the phone on the wall or on a table?

Also, where I live, everyone else has a different area code for their landline, and for their cell phones, but maybe that's not everywhere. Also, if a cell phone is turned off, it will only ring once, whereas a landline will ring until it gets to the answering machine every time. And if they do have a landline, wouldn't they give you two numbers--one for their cell phone and one for their landline?

ETA: Basically, what I saying is, unless Elaine is straight up lying, I believe that if Mark has a landline, she knows about it. I'm sure that due to the whole child custody thing, he had to provide all his phone numbers to her. People tell others when one number is a cell, one is a landline, so you know which one to call at certain hours of the day.

I answered this but it got lost in cyberspace. I go to their homes but I don't go buzzing around looking to see if they have landlines. I have multiple phone numbers for them but I don't know if they are work, or cell or home. I know one sister who got rid of her landline and goes by cell alone. My brother just retired and moved and I've been given no other number for him so I don't know if he has a landline now or not. I can get ahold of him when I want to. My one brother changed his number so often because of harrassment, I don't know if he got rid of his landline and just uses a cell phone or not. I still have a number for him.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

I think that he's like me and only has a desktop. MOO.

I recall on SM reading that MR had a laptop that was open, seen by DH when she delivered a xmas present to him. other than that I've seen no mention of what type of computer he has.

I would think a laptop would be more convenient/likely if he is away from home regularly.

This from TxJan's transcript:

[FONT=&quot]'You know, in one place he might be he can’t get service and then he could take a step to the left or a step to the right and voila all of a sudden he has service, and the two places he told me he could get service was from the corner of the couch where he was sitting, which has been changed, but right by the TV there, and my room.[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Well, he didn’t go into my room. He went upstairs for a few things – brought the DVD player down so we could watch that movie that he wanted to watch." [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]

IIRC during his interview right as he mentioned the two places he could get service from MBs cell rang, it wasn't in either of the spots he had mentioned.

the couch has been changed around? that seems odd

some people may have Voip instead of a regular landline, people call the landline number but the calls are all made/received through the internet.

 

[SCHMAE]

How would she know since they've been divorced 6 years??? I don't even know if my bothers and sisters have landlines anymore. They changed phone numbers several times and given me new numbers. At one time, they all had landlines, but I know of one who doesn't any longer. I'm not sure at all about the rest of them, and I see them all the time. Just never bothered asking if they still have a landline.

I am the only one of my siblings with a land line still.
And the only one who lives in a very rural location.
Land lines are cheap and cells drop calls a lot where I live.
But all my texts go through ! FWIW

 

[SCHMAE]

So a stupid question. I think it's an important one , but may be stupid of me not to know the answer. Is Vallecito Reservoir a LIQUID body of water this time of year? I understand it'
s cold and frozen up there but I would think for a lake to be frozen over at the surface, it would have to be much further north in michigan or somewhere that it's sub zero a lot and at least below freezing for days at a time. Plus I don't know if a lake that size would ever freeze over? Point being would things in the lake be trapped under an icy surface ? Tks for anyone who knows!

 

[deoneta]

Sounds like MR has a landline.

A message left on Mark Redwine’s cellphone Friday was not returned.

The telephone at his residence at 2343 County Road 500 rang until it cut off.


http://durangoherald.com/article/20121123/NEWS01/121129810/0/SEARCH/'He-would-have-called

 

[Eileen730]

How would she know since they've been divorced 6 years??? I don't even know if my bothers and sisters have landlines anymore. They changed phone numbers several times and given me new numbers. At one time, they all had landlines, but I know of one who doesn't any longer. I'm not sure at all about the rest of them, and I see them all the time. Just never bothered asking if they still have a landline.

Maybe because when you send in your emergency contact school papers she had to write MR's Home phone and Cell phone number on it!

 

[rebeccaeee]

I think he has a laptop.

Not because it's what I have, but due to the logistics of it. If someone is on the road 3 weeks out of every month, it would make sense to have a laptop. He may have both, but I'd bet ya my hubbie's dog that he has a lappie.

I am fairly certain the admin of FMDR who, at least at the time this was mentioned around Christmas was still on friendly terms with him, confirmed that MR has a laptop.

ETA: sorry aust amateur sleuth- just saw your post. We read the same info on FMDR!

 

[rebeccaeee]

So a stupid question. I think it's an important one , but may be stupid of me not to know the answer. Is Vallecito Reservoir a LIQUID body of water this time of year? I understand it'
s cold and frozen up there but I would think for a lake to be frozen over at the surface, it would have to be much further north in michigan or somewhere that it's sub zero a lot and at least below freezing for days at a time. Plus I don't know if a lake that size would ever freeze over? Point being would things in the lake be trapped under an icy surface ? Tks for anyone who knows!

Frozen over but not solid. Ice fishing seems to take place. 7-10 inches of ice right now according to http://www.fishexplorer.com/co/fxrforum.asp?action=det&pid=329662.

 

[azgrandma]

Going on the theory that DR woke up late, ate cereal w/the tv on, grabbed his broken cell phone, charger, and back pack, walked outside because he couldn't wait for Mr, hitchhiked to his friends house 18 miles away, we'd have to keep that he walks very lightly because there were no footprints on the side of the road where a person would walk, or perhaps because he is so careless he was walking IN the street.

I find it amazing that ER is chastized for not going into full panic attack mode when she didn't get a return text from her one text msg to DR on Monday. She was under the impression that her son was with his father and/or friends. One or two missed cell phone text messages being unreturned should have had her flying on a jet plane to Durango.

However, MR tried ALL morning to text his son, came home to an empty house and took a nap and he had no reason to worry because he works hard. That's ok for him to not be concerned for hours on the whereabouts of his son. The son he had NO idea where he was, how he was, how he got anywhere.

ER's chastized for not rushing out of work the second MR sent her a text, but MR is excused for taking a freaking nap!
It's ok for MR to not be concerned, but not ok for ER (who is 6 hrs away) to not be concerned.

<modsnip>

No matter how I look at it, unless MR is offered every excuse, every one off possible, it doesn't add up to a stranger abduction, a family abduction, an alien abduction or a runaway. How many coincidences have to be in place because I'm counting about half a dozen. None of it adds up unless you discount or excuse a bit here or a bit there.

Making the facts that we know fit into the conclusion we want just doesn't make logical sense to me. By facts, I'm talking about the information we know from LE, ER and MR as well as our knowledge as people that have experienced life.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Arghhhh. Seems like ER isn't credible somehow, but questioning MR is part of the "mob mentality." All MOO

I hear you, its why I don't post much on here now, the comments about mob mentality and confirmation bias have put me off.

I am fairly certain the admin of FMDR who, at least at the time this was mentioned around Christmas was still on friendly terms with him, confirmed that MR has a laptop.

ETA: sorry aust amateur sleuth- just saw your post. We read the same info on FMDR!

Thats okay rebeccaeee. reading all the info available is the smart thing to do IMO, looking at everything is the way LE works too.

 

[rebeccaeee]

Going on the theory that DR woke up late, ate cereal w/the tv on, grabbed his broken cell phone, charger, and back pack, walked outside because he couldn't wait for Mr, hitchhiked to his friends house 18 miles away, we'd have to keep that he walks very lightly because there were no footprints on the side of the road where a person would walk, or perhaps because he is so careless he was walking IN the street.

I find it amazing that ER is chastized for not going into full panic attack mode when she didn't get a return text from her one text msg to DR on Monday. She was under the impression that her son was with his father and/or friends. One or two missed cell phone text messages being unreturned should have had her flying on a jet plane to Durango.

However, MR tried ALL morning to text his son, came home to an empty house and took a nap and he had no reason to worry because he works hard. That's ok for him to not be concerned for hours on the whereabouts of his son. The son he had NO idea where he was, how he was, how he got anywhere.

ER's chastized for not rushing out of work the second MR sent her a text, but MR is excused for taking a freaking nap!
It's ok for MR to not be concerned, but not ok for ER (who is 6 hrs away) to not be concerned.

<Mod Snip>

No matter how I look at it, unless MR is offered every excuse, every one off possible, it doesn't add up to a stranger abduction, a family abduction, an alien abduction or a runaway. How many coincidences have to be in place because I'm counting about half a dozen. None of it adds up unless you discount or excuse a bit here or a bit there.

Making the facts that we know fit into the conclusion we want just doesn't make logical sense to me. By facts, I'm talking about the information we know from LE, ER and MR as well as our knowledge as people that have experienced life.

BBM- And this is why I have high hopes for those search dogs this month. Three cadaver dogs and one bloodhound. Sorry to jump off your post here but I wonder if the dogs will gain access to MR's home? He appears to be out of town and I, for one, would like the HRDs to have a good long sniff around his house and trucks.

 

[azgrandma]

BBM- And this is why I have high hopes for those search dogs this month. Three cadaver dogs and one bloodhound. Sorry to jump off your post here but I wonder if the dogs will gain access to MR's home? He appears to be out of town and I, for one, would like the HRDs to have a good long sniff around his house and trucks.

If he allows that, it would be great. I'm sure that if he doesn't allow the dogs there, then it will be because he has no obligation, he's out of town so how could he, the previous dogs already did or they are not searching his house so why would he.

 

[cluciano63]

Going on the theory that DR woke up late, ate cereal w/the tv on, grabbed his broken cell phone, charger, and back pack, walked outside because he couldn't wait for Mr, hitchhiked to his friends house 18 miles away, we'd have to keep that he walks very lightly because there were no footprints on the side of the road where a person would walk, or perhaps because he is so careless he was walking IN the street.

I find it amazing that ER is chastized for not going into full panic attack mode when she didn't get a return text from her one text msg to DR on Monday. She was under the impression that her son was with his father and/or friends. One or two missed cell phone text messages being unreturned should have had her flying on a jet plane to Durango.

However, MR tried ALL morning to text his son, came home to an empty house and took a nap and he had no reason to worry because he works hard. That's ok for him to not be concerned for hours on the whereabouts of his son. The son he had NO idea where he was, how he was, how he got anywhere.

ER's chastized for not rushing out of work the second MR sent her a text, but MR is excused for taking a freaking nap!
It's ok for MR to not be concerned, but not ok for ER (who is 6 hrs away) to not be concerned.

<Mod Snip>
No matter how I look at it, unless MR is offered every excuse, every one off possible, it doesn't add up to a stranger abduction, a family abduction, an alien abduction or a runaway. How many coincidences have to be in place because I'm counting about half a dozen. None of it adds up unless you discount or excuse a bit here or a bit there.

Making the facts that we know fit into the conclusion we want just doesn't make logical sense to me. By facts, I'm talking about the information we know from LE, ER and MR as well as our knowledge as people that have experienced life.

I so agree,
I get why some people might want to defend MR, I guess, since nothing has been proven against him in this case, but the need to make insinuations against ER blows me away. And there have been plenty against her, as well as some veiled implications that she, or maybe even her fiancé, have taken him away.

ER's actions and reactions strike me as sincere, realistic and traumatized in every way. If anything, she is going far easier on MR than I would do, considering he would not answer her texts or talk to her when she was trying to learn details about her CHILD DISAPPEARING while visiting his father.

Desiree Young has been, and is far more accusatory and bitter toward Terri Horman from the start and everyone totally "understood". I can't help but think there is a bit of sexism going on in the need to defend MR so much. That is JMO, but it kind of reminds me of how often if a father is even remotely "good" he is practically lionized, by media, etc.

 

[DylansMom34]

Apparently some believe that Dylan would have used Mark's landline to communicate with his friends on Monday morning if his cell phone had problems. I would like to know if this alleged landline of Mark's even exits.

Elaine say it does exits. I would like someone else to confirm that fact.

This news story says that calls placed to Mark Redwine's house rang until the call was cut off.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20121123/NEWS01/121129810/‘He-would-have-called’&template=mobileart

ETA: oops someone else already posted this

 

[MissJ]

Going on the theory that DR woke up late, ate cereal w/the tv on, grabbed his broken cell phone, charger, and back pack, walked outside because he couldn't wait for Mr, hitchhiked to his friends house 18 miles away, we'd have to keep that he walks very lightly because there were no footprints on the side of the road where a person would walk, or perhaps because he is so careless he was walking IN the street.

I find it amazing that ER is chastized for not going into full panic attack mode when she didn't get a return text from her one text msg to DR on Monday. She was under the impression that her son was with his father and/or friends. One or two missed cell phone text messages being unreturned should have had her flying on a jet plane to Durango.

However, MR tried ALL morning to text his son, came home to an empty house and took a nap and he had no reason to worry because he works hard. That's ok for him to not be concerned for hours on the whereabouts of his son. The son he had NO idea where he was, how he was, how he got anywhere.

ER's chastized for not rushing out of work the second MR sent her a text, but MR is excused for taking a freaking nap!
It's ok for MR to not be concerned, but not ok for ER (who is 6 hrs away) to not be concerned.

<Mod Snip>
No matter how I look at it, unless MR is offered every excuse, every one off possible, it doesn't add up to a stranger abduction, a family abduction, an alien abduction or a runaway. How many coincidences have to be in place because I'm counting about half a dozen. None of it adds up unless you discount or excuse a bit here or a bit there.

Making the facts that we know fit into the conclusion we want just doesn't make logical sense to me. By facts, I'm talking about the information we know from LE, ER and MR as well as our knowledge as people that have experienced life.

I know AZ, I had to take a break after I was attacked about saying that it seemed odd that MR would take a nap after trying to reach Dylan all morning and coming home to DR being gone with all his belongings. But it still seems odd to me.:banghead::moo:

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I'm curious about this.

In one interview MR stated that he went to the neighbor's house by the lake, looking for Dylan, but the neighbor said he hadn't seen him.

In the last interview MR stated that he went to the neighbor's house by the lake looking for Dylan but no one answered the door.

Can anyone give any reason that he would be confused about this? This is a huge variance, imo.

Is it possible that MR told LE he went to the friends house and the friend hadn't seen him, then LE went to the friends house to check his story and the friend said nobody was even home that day?

 

[aust amateur slueth]

since the beginning there have been digs (for want of a better word) at the other parent by both MR and ER, there one big difference that stood out to me, that is that ERs digs are current, to do with Dylans disappearance, MRs digs have nothing to do with Dylans disappearance, his are about the past and what a good bond he had with Dylan.

does that strike anyone else as being odd?

 

[nursebeeme]

Folks, we have allowed the discussion of Dylan's father in this case because there are a lot of questions surrounding Dylan's disappearance and he was the last person known to see him prior to his disappeance.

We do not know what happened to Dylan or who is responsible. It is not a foregone conclusion that MR is responsible for the disappearance of his son.

We are web sleuths and as web sleuths, we'd like to see any and all possibilities as to what may have happened to Dylan discussed here. Any members chastising other members for putting forth alternative theories will be hit with hefty timeouts.

All reasonable theories and discussion of facts are welcome in this thread.

Please carry on and let's do what we do best.

Thank you.

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[SCHMAE]

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