CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #34

[rebeccaeee]

I am looking around for any reports on today's search but it looks like the area is getting hammered with snow today... not sure if it will still happen but I am looking around to see what I can see.

Check out MR's neighbor's webcam.
www.okielegacy.us
Very snowy.

 

[absentia]

Maybe someone needs to explain to MB that Dylan had an iPod that also had texting capabilities and we're trying to figure out if the text was sent via the phone or the iPod? I'm not a tweeter or I would.

I still think she's assuming that text = cell phone.

she has said that the only electronic device being discussed by LE is the cell phone.
but "SENT" and "a friend" still doesn't clarify who actually sent it. I know she "double checked" and it was said it was sent from DR's phone, but I wanna know who she double checked with. they might have been confused or misinterpreted who sent it.

 

[absentia]

Was there ever an update about the body found in Fountain CO?

this is the latest I can find. last night someone stated it looked like an adult, but they still haven't determined age or sex. the way they are handling this is concerning - CBI involved right away -within hours-, no missing persons in the local area. I think they think this is more than an accidental drowning of a camping transient.

oh, and they've brought in Denver and Pueblo PD's.

 

[scorekeeper]

this is the latest I can find. last night someone stated it looked like an adult, but they still haven't determined age or sex. the way they are handling this is concerning - CBI involved right away -within hours-, no missing persons in the local area. I think they think this is more than an accidental drowning of a camping transient.

oh, and they've brought in Denver and Pueblo PD's.

do you have a link?

TIA

 

[absentia]

Thank you! And yet another very odd statement by MR. BBM

He SPECIFICALLY REMEMBERS HIM TEXTING. I think it's very odd include the word specifically. Then he goes on to add AFTER WE WERE HERE. Again another odd statement. Then he changes from SPECIFICALLY remembering him texting to texting or playing a video game or something. And then he adds he assumed he was texting cos it's not like he can't get service it's up here, it's just very sporatic. Why add the last part of that sentence? Why is that important to talk about the cell phone service up there?

What I gather that he wanted to convey is Dylan was texting after he got to his house and he can get cell service there. He adds texting OR playing video game or something just in case there are no records of Dylan texting at those times.

excellent point. I think DR didn't have an active phone after the car ride home, and he may not have been alive at that point, even. everything MR has said abt Sunday night is in question IMO.

 

[margarita25]

God Bless Sarah Ridgeway, Jessica's mother, for attending the vigil for Dylan in Westminster. This is the first time she has spoken publicly since Jessica was murdered (4 months ago), and it was so nice to see her (yet still so heartbreaking). She looked well and strong.

 

[absentia]

do you have a link?

TIA

sorry - i copied it but failed to paste it. here ya go:
http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/Body-Found-in-Fountain-Creek-in-Southern-Colorado-190471981.html

 

[Lordeebee]

I keep thinking about how MR said (in last uncut interview) that Dylan did not go into his (MR's) room. Why mention something Dylan DID NOT do? This was in response to a question from MB about Dylan sitting around texting:

Melissa Blasius:
So then, umm...so he’s texting back and forth with his friends, okay I’m not gonna’ come now…

Mark Redwine:
Well, there’s not a lot of cell phone service between Durango and the lake up here, and it’s not until you come up past the dam that you actually can get your cell phone service as a Verizon customer.

But, I specifically remember him texting about that time, and he was texting on the couch after we were here and watching the movie he was over there texting or playing a video or something. I just assumed he was texting, ‘cos it’s not like he can’t ever get service up here, it’s just very sporadic. You know, in one place he might be he can’t get service and then he could take a step to the left or a step to the right and voila all of a sudden he has service, and the two places he told me he could get service was from the corner of the couch where he was sitting, which has been changed, but right by the TV there, and my room.
Well, he didn’t go into my room. He went upstairs for a few things – brought the DVD player down so we could watch that movie that he wanted to watch.

BBM So he's talking about where in the house there was a good signal, which were the corner of the couch and up in his (dad's) room. But then makes the point that Dylan didn't go to his room. First, I don't see how he would know whether Dylan went to his room, if he were still downstairs. But mostly, what did this have to do within the context of anything? Is it in anticipation of what he thought the next question might be - maybe something that he had given ample thought to because LE was trying to figure out where Dylan was when he sent the last "electronic communication". Why did it matter what part of the house he was in when he was texting? Which makes me wonder if the last communication was from MR's computer, which was probably in his bedroom (only my assumption)?

 

[scorekeeper]

sorry - i copied it but failed to paste it. here ya go:
http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/Body-Found-in-Fountain-Creek-in-Southern-Colorado-190471981.html

No problem....been there/done that...

Thanks!!

 

[deoneta]

I keep thinking about how MR said (in last uncut interview) that Dylan did not go into his (MR's) room. Why mention something Dylan DID NOT do? This was in response to a question from MB about Dylan sitting around texting:

Melissa Blasius:
So then, umm...so he’s texting back and forth with his friends, okay I’m not gonna’ come now…

Mark Redwine:
Well, there’s not a lot of cell phone service between Durango and the lake up here, and it’s not until you come up past the dam that you actually can get your cell phone service as a Verizon customer.

But, I specifically remember him texting about that time, and he was texting on the couch after we were here and watching the movie he was over there texting or playing a video or something. I just assumed he was texting, ‘cos it’s not like he can’t ever get service up here, it’s just very sporadic. You know, in one place he might be he can’t get service and then he could take a step to the left or a step to the right and voila all of a sudden he has service, and the two places he told me he could get service was from the corner of the couch where he was sitting, which has been changed, but right by the TV there, and my room.
Well, he didn’t go into my room. He went upstairs for a few things – brought the DVD player down so we could watch that movie that he wanted to watch.

BBM So he's talking about where in the house there was a good signal, which were the corner of the couch and up in his (dad's) room. But then makes the point that Dylan didn't go to his room. First, I don't see how he would know whether Dylan went to his room, if he were still downstairs. But mostly, what did this have to do within the context of anything? Is it in anticipation of what he thought the next question might be - maybe something that he had given ample thought to because LE was trying to figure out where Dylan was when he sent the last "electronic communication". Why did it matter what part of the house he was in when he was texting? Which makes me wonder if the last communication was from MR's computer, which was probably in his bedroom (only my assumption)?

I have a hard time following when MR talks about "the night" and the following day so I am confused. But something stated as a negative when not in reply to any question does draw attention. It makes me think of back in the seventies when I worked at Kmart. Somebody snatched and grabbed a couple of tires. There was only one girl working in the automotive department and when police asked for a description of the thief, she said, "average height, average weight and he was NOT wearing glasses". We all knew then and there that it was her glasses wearing boyfriend who took the tires.

 

[The Cheese]

That's the assumption I made as well, but now I'm questioning if it's valid. We know the TV was on when MR went bed that night and that it was tuned to Nick. We know that when he came back home the TV was on and tuned to Nick. I'd like to find if MR ever said that the TV was off when he left.

When he got back at 11:30, his son's dirty cereal bowl was beside the sink. The television was on Nickelodeon.

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_22108222/dad-its-wait-wonder#ixzz2KQuhPdvi


I've wondered that myself, tamild, because it was written by a reporter, rather than being a direct quote, and I wonder if he left out some other details that Mark told him. Dylan could have had a cereal snack before going to bed and/or never turned off the TV from the night before.

Also, I've been trying to remember if our bedroom TV was on or off last night when I went to sleep, and whether it was on or off this morning when I woke up. For the life of me, I can't remember. I asked DH and he can't remember either.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I keep thinking about how MR said (in last uncut interview) that Dylan did not go into his (MR's) room. Why mention something Dylan DID NOT do? This was in response to a question from MB about Dylan sitting around texting:

Melissa Blasius:
So then, umm...so he’s texting back and forth with his friends, okay I’m not gonna’ come now…

Mark Redwine:
Well, there’s not a lot of cell phone service between Durango and the lake up here, and it’s not until you come up past the dam that you actually can get your cell phone service as a Verizon customer.

But, I specifically remember him texting about that time, and he was texting on the couch after we were here and watching the movie he was over there texting or playing a video or something. I just assumed he was texting, ‘cos it’s not like he can’t ever get service up here, it’s just very sporadic. You know, in one place he might be he can’t get service and then he could take a step to the left or a step to the right and voila all of a sudden he has service, and the two places he told me he could get service was from the corner of the couch where he was sitting, which has been changed, but right by the TV there, and my room.
Well, he didn’t go into my room. He went upstairs for a few things – brought the DVD player down so we could watch that movie that he wanted to watch.

BBM So he's talking about where in the house there was a good signal, which were the corner of the couch and up in his (dad's) room. But then makes the point that Dylan didn't go to his room. First, I don't see how he would know whether Dylan went to his room, if he were still downstairs. But mostly, what did this have to do within the context of anything? Is it in anticipation of what he thought the next question might be - maybe something that he had given ample thought to because LE was trying to figure out where Dylan was when he sent the last "electronic communication". Why did it matter what part of the house he was in when he was texting? Which makes me wonder if the last communication was from MR's computer, which was probably in his bedroom (only my assumption)?

Interesting isn't it? He adds so many things that seem totally out of place in the context of what he's trying to convey. He does this often throughout the interview.

Does it really matter where Dylan was at in the house when he was texting? Why mention that he wasn't in his room? Immediately he starts off saying there isn't much cell phone service between Durango and the lake. Why bring that up?

This entire section of the interview, to me, is Mark's attempt at proving that Dylan was at his house. Are all the extra details really necessary? Do we care if Dylan was on the couch or in the kitchen when he was texting or whether or not Dylan ever went in his room? These are specific attempts to explain something. I'm not sure exactly what. For some reason it seems important to him to state that Dylan didn't go in his room.

 

[Dee10]

I agree Lordeebee & Deonta, that is really interesting.

I am also wondering where exactly they would be in the drive home shortly after 8:00. MR says they lose service at the dam. How much further would it be 5 min. 10 min.???
I have always thought it was very possible the phone died for whatever reason at that time, now of course I am not so sure. Is it possible during that conversation with R at 8 ish it was because they were hitting the dam area & he lost service?

 

[absentia]

I have a hard time following when MR talks about "the night" and the following day so I am confused. But something stated as a negative when not in reply to any question does draw attention. It makes me think of back in the seventies when I worked at Kmart. Somebody snatched and grabbed a couple of tires. There was only one girl working in the automotive department and when police asked for a description of the thief, she said, "average height, average weight and he was NOT wearing glasses". We all knew then and there that it was her glasses wearing boyfriend who took the tires.

that part bothers me as does MR's description of Sunday night at Walmart. at 11:32 in the video, he has been asked what happened during the 24 hours before DR went missing. He is stating what was purchased - snacks for a few days and a couple movies. He then states "one of those movies is the one we watched.....pause.....the night.....pause......you know.......pause.....we were together". then he looks off in the distance for a full 3-4 seconds shaking his head with a dismayed look on his face before he pulls it together.

Now, he was already talking about Sunday night. the reporter had directly asked him to go through the 24 hours before DR went missing. and then he references "the night" (we were together) as if it wasn't the same night, or the night was special or stands out (to him, to everyone). It's a weird thing to say and a weird way to say it. IMO, he was thinking about what really happened that night during the movie. This is right before he talks about how they didn't buy anything for T'day - which was one of my concern all along - that if that were found to be the case, it would be a bad sign. IMO.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I agree Lordeebee & Deonta, that is really interesting.

I am also wondering where exactly they would be in the drive home shortly after 8:00. MR says they lose service at the dam. How much further would it be 5 min. 10 min.???
I have always thought it was very possible the phone died for whatever reason at that time, now of course I am not so sure. Is it possible during that conversation with R at 8 ish it was because they were hitting the dam area & he lost service?

I believe he said the dam is where service picked up again. Not where service was lost.

 

[Lordeebee]

I have a hard time following when MR talks about "the night" and the following day so I am confused. But something stated as a negative when not in reply to any question does draw attention. It makes me think of back in the seventies when I worked at Kmart. Somebody snatched and grabbed a couple of tires. There was only one girl working in the automotive department and when police asked for a description of the thief, she said, "average height, average weight and he was NOT wearing glasses". We all knew then and there that it was her glasses wearing boyfriend who took the tires.

These are all Big IF's except Dylan's 9:37 communication:
Let's say MR had already taken Dylans phone away because he was PO'd that Dylan would rather see his friends. So they are sitting around watching the movie and Dylan is not really texting AT ALL because he doesn't have any means of doing so. So he tries to sneak up to his dad's room to use the computer to get ahold of...who knows? Dad catches him and all hell breaks loose..
If LE has a 9:37 communication from Dylan that was never completed because it was interrupted after just an intro, and they know this because they confiscated the computer that was in MR's room - then wouldn't MR want to make a point that Dylan was never in his room?

Pure speculation and please shoot it full of holes because I am really confused at this point :waitasec:

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

that part bothers me as does MR's description of Sunday night at Walmart. at 11:32 in the video, he has been asked what happened during the 24 hours before DR went missing. He is stating what was purchased - snacks for a few days and a couple movies. He then states "one of those movies is the one we watched.....pause.....the night.....pause......you know.......pause.....we were together". then he looks off in the distance for a full 3-4 seconds shaking his head with a dismayed look on his face before he pulls it together.

Now, he was already talking about Sunday night. the reporter had directly asked him to go through the 24 hours before DR went missing. and then he references "the night" (we were together) as if it wasn't the same night, or the night was special or stands out (to him, to everyone). It's a weird thing to say and a weird way to say it. IMO, he was thinking about what really happened that night during the movie. This is right before he talks about how they didn't buy anything for T'day - which was one of my concern all along - that if that were found to be the case, it would be a bad sign. IMO.

When he's talking about picking up snacks, the movies he seems to be talking normally and answering the question normally. But then he goes on to
"one of those movies is the one we watched.....pause.....the night.....pause......you know.......pause.....we were together"

BBM

Who talks like that??? Wouldn't you say one of those movies is the one we watched that night?
We all know (and the reporter knew) exactly what night was being discussed so why the need to throw that in there?

 

[findDylan]

I'm not sure on all the rules here yet and if need be please remove mods, but there is a link about a statement analysis of MR on the FMDR page. kinda interesting.

 

[Lordeebee]

These are all Big IF's except Dylan's 9:37 communication:
Let's say MR had already taken Dylans phone away because he was PO'd that Dylan would rather see his friends. So they are sitting around watching the movie and Dylan is not really texting AT ALL because he doesn't have any means of doing so. So he tries to sneak up to his dad's room to use the computer to get ahold of...who knows? Dad catches him and all hell breaks loose..
If LE has a 9:37 communication from Dylan that was never completed because it was interrupted after just an intro, and they know this because they confiscated the computer that was in MR's room - then wouldn't MR want to make a point that Dylan was never in his room?

Pure speculation and please shoot it full of holes because I am really
confused at this point :waitasec:

Ok, I'll shoot it full of holes myself :-}
If LE has the computer with some kind of evidence that Dylan had used it, then it would be better for MR to say that Dylan WAS in his room.

Told you I'm confused...but I still think there was some reason for stating D was not in his room.

 

[deoneta]

These are all Big IF's except Dylan's 9:37 communication:
Let's say MR had already taken Dylans phone away because he was PO'd that Dylan would rather see his friends. So they are sitting around watching the movie and Dylan is not really texting AT ALL because he doesn't have any means of doing so. So he tries to sneak up to his dad's room to use the computer to get ahold of...who knows? Dad catches him and all hell breaks loose..
If LE has a 9:37 communication from Dylan that was never completed because it was interrupted after just an intro, and they know this because they confiscated the computer that was in MR's room - then wouldn't MR want to make a point that Dylan was never in his room?

Pure speculation and please shoot it full of holes because I am really confused at this point :waitasec:

Speculation on my part, too of course, but it does make sense, especially in the context of how many times MR bought up Dylan wanting to spend time with his friends. All MOO