CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #35

[BeginnersLuck]

Again, just my thinking, would they if they were looking at MR as their POI?

I don't know if they would or not. They SHOULD, but I don't know that they would and I don't know that they would announce it to the public if they didn't find it believable.

AGAIN, JUST ME THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX. It's probably far fetched, but I try to think of every possible scenario.

I would think they would, to further rule out someone else being involved if they were looking at MR as the POI.

The tipster wasn't anonymous if LE contacted them from the tip and interviewed them ??? I think I'm missing something or not understanding the conversation. I need to get some work done........

Good luck all and I hope that some facts or leads emerge. Hopefully when I check back in there will be some additional information.

 

[The Cheese]

VERY HYPOTHETICAL

I guess what I am getting at is; what if MR told his PI that he told LE in the beginning about this Hispanic male he saw and LE never checked into it? What if then, on the advise of his PI, MR calls this tip into the tipline?
Would LE be required at that point to treat it like any other tip?

I just can't see him calling the tipline instead of his assigned investigator, PsychicSleuth.

 

[ColdHands]

Maybe it was anonymous?

Sticking to your hypothetical, could MR call in anonymously and say "You need to speak to Mrs. Q because she told me she saw ...."

Would LE follow up on a tip like that? IMO yes.

 

[ColdHands]

I just can't see him calling the tipline instead of his assigned investigator, PsychicSleuth.

I interpreted the hypothetical to say that LE hypothetically does not feel that particular tip is important, implying that he had spoken to LE and probably the assigned investigator and so went to the tip line as a last resort.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I just can't see him calling the tipline instead of his assigned investigator, PsychicSleuth.

Oh really? You think the PI would do it instead of him? Even if he wasn't the one who saw the person? Interesting.

ALL HYPOTHETICAL HERE!!

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

A P.I. is not an attorney. Do they represent their people like an attorney might?

 

[nursebeeme]

Maybe it was anonymous?

iirc Bender was quoted as saying the person that provided the tip was interviewed last weekend.

 

[Lordeebee]

Wouldn't he do that anonymously in your hypothetical? So then yes, they would follow up just as they would any other tip. IMO

Hypothetically, if he thought there was something important that LE was ignoring, he'd be better off taking it to the media to force their hand, IMO.

Over the weekend, police interviewed someone who remembered seeing a man in the north end of Vallecito near Mark Redwine's home the day Dylan was reported missing, said Dan Bender, public information officer for the La Plata County Sheriff’s Office.

Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/dylan-150911-police-potential.html#ixzz2KiMleqDu

BBM
It seems unlikely that LE would say they interviewed "someone" who remembered seeing a man near "Mark Redwine's" home, if the person they interviewed (the tipster) was actually Mark.

 

[The Cheese]

I interpreted the hypothetical to say that LE hypothetically does not feel that particular tip is important, implying that he had spoken to LE and probably the assigned investigator and so went to the tip line as a last resort.

Well if that's the hypothetical, then it's just stretching further than I can go. Thank you for explaining it.

 

[The Cheese]

Oh really? You think the PI would do it instead of him? Even if he wasn't the one who saw the person? Interesting.

ALL HYPOTHETICAL HERE!!

No, that's not at all what I think. I meant his assigned investigator with the Sheriff's office. As I posted a few minutes ago, there was the article that said both MR and ER have been assigned their own sheriff's office investigator.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Over the weekend, police interviewed someone who remembered seeing a man in the north end of Vallecito near Mark Redwine's home the day Dylan was reported missing, said Dan Bender, public information officer for the La Plata County Sheriff’s Office.

Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/dylan-150911-police-potential.html#ixzz2KiMleqDu

BBM
It seems unlikely that LE would say they interviewed "someone" who remembered seeing a man near "Mark Redwine's" home, if the person they interviewed (the tipster) was actually Mark.

I agree and you're probably right. I'm just thinking of other possibilities and I'm still perplexed as to why the tipster would wait until the weekend to call it in when the PI knew about it last week. Maybe they were out of town or something? Who knows?

“That may not amount to anything, but it also gave us an opportunity” to ask anyone who may have seen anything unusual before or after Dylan disappeared to contact authorities, Bender said. Dylan turned 14 years old last week.

Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/dylan-150911-police-potential.html#ixzz2KiPQ7kSp


The above statement by Bender doesn't make it sound like he's too hopeful in finding this person. I sure hope they can.

 

[ColdHands]

Do we know the tipster and the person interviewed are the same?
And do we know for sure what date the tip was called in?

Sorry if I missed this info.

 

[Lordeebee]

Sticking to your hypothetical, could MR call in anonymously and say "You need to speak to Mrs. Q because she told me she saw ...."

Would LE follow up on a tip like that? IMO yes.

After reviewing several media reports, there is nothing that says that the tipster and the person interviewed are the SAME PERSON. So who knows?

(Can someone send me a "thinking cap" like the one Psychic Sleuth wears?)

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Do we know the tipster and the person interviewed are the same?
And do we know for sure what date the tip was called in?

Sorry if I missed this info.

Ok you're right. This just says they interviewed the person over the weekend. I thought another article said the tip was called in over the weekend? I'll have to see if I can find it.

Over the weekend, police interviewed someone who remembered seeing a man in the north end of Vallecito near Mark Redwine's home the day Dylan was reported missing, said Dan Bender, public information officer for the La Plata County Sheriff’s Office.

Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/dylan-150911-police-potential.html#ixzz2KiR6dIgf

 

[ColdHands]

Ok you're right. This just says they interviewed the person over the weekend. I thought another article said the tip was called in over the weekend? I'll have to see if I can find it.

Over the weekend, police interviewed someone who remembered seeing a man in the north end of Vallecito near Mark Redwine's home the day Dylan was reported missing, said Dan Bender, public information officer for the La Plata County Sheriff’s Office.

Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/dylan-150911-police-potential.html#ixzz2KiR6dIgf

This clip (Bender speaks at :47 and the reporter says essentially the same at 1:00) says the tip "came in over the weekend."

http://news.yahoo.com/video/team-looking-dylan-redwine-seeks-143100277.html

 

[azgrandma]

IMO - IF MR or ER called in a tip on the tip line, then I would be very suspect of them. They have the inside connection. The only reason for either of them to call a tip to the tip line would be to intentionally divert the investigation.

With that being said, MR or ER can directly contact LE, either of them can say, hey this guy told me that his neighbor was talking about a suspicious hispanic male he saw on 11/19. LE would ask for the name & number of the "guy" and get in touch with the "neighbor" and check it out. LE is NOT going to discount a tip that the parents of a missing child reported. They may not investigate each tip the parent gives, out of pure absurdity, but they will not discount a tip from anyone.

As far as whether or not the FMDR page has this new info posted, WTF cares one way or another? The fb pages have gotten so out of hand it's absurd and worse than watching 4 yr olds fight over a toy. I personally could care less what any of the fb pages puts up in regards to media, tips, opinions, finger pointing, accusation dodging, all of it.

In regards to the PI and Dr. Phil, both ER & MR have been in the damned if I do, damned if I don't arena for far too long. Both are being chastised for not doing something and then being chastised for doing something. Heck, neither one of them can catch a break from anyone. IMO, I would not hire or employ or accept the services of a PI that post information on fb, that goes for both MO & BB. I find that very unprofessional, highly unethical and just plain absurd. It's all MOO, whomever either of them employs, I would personally hope that they at least aide in the investigation and do not interfere with investigation. As far as Dr Phil goes, if the objective is to find your son, you are offered free national exposure, take it. Nobody, not even the great all mightly Dr. Phil, can make you say something you don't want to, take a LDT if you don't want to or argue with someone you don't want to.

Have you ever had a one-sided argument? If the other person doesn't participate the other person looks like a fool.

All IMOO.

 

[Eileen730]

Well my hinky meter is going off and I'm just trying to think of why the P.I. was posting about this Hispanic male last week on the FMDR page and the tip was not called in until the weekend? Why would the tipster wait until the weekend to call it in?

I think the PI spoke to someone last week and that person did not call in the tip line I think the PI told the person to or the tip came from the pi.

JMO

 

[Eileen730]

IMO - IF MR or ER called in a tip on the tip line, then I would be very suspect of them. They have the inside connection. The only reason for either of them to call a tip to the tip line would be to intentionally divert the investigation.

With that being said, MR or ER can directly contact LE, either of them can say, hey this guy told me that his neighbor was talking about a suspicious hispanic male he saw on 11/19. LE would ask for the name & number of the "guy" and get in touch with the "neighbor" and check it out. LE is NOT going to discount a tip that the parents of a missing child reported. They may not investigate each tip the parent gives, out of pure absurdity, but they will not discount a tip from anyone.

As far as whether or not the FMDR page has this new info posted, WTF cares one way or another? The fb pages have gotten so out of hand it's absurd and worse than watching 4 yr olds fight over a toy. I personally could care less what any of the fb pages puts up in regards to media, tips, opinions, finger pointing, accusation dodging, all of it.

In regards to the PI and Dr. Phil, both ER & MR have been in the damned if I do, damned if I don't arena for far too long. Both are being chastised for not doing something and then being chastised for doing something. Heck, neither one of them can catch a break from anyone. IMO, I would not hire or employ or accept the services of a PI that post information on fb, that goes for both MO & BB. I find that very unprofessional, highly unethical and just plain absurd. It's all MOO, whomever either of them employs, I would personally hope that they at least aide in the investigation and do not interfere with investigation. As far as Dr Phil goes, if the objective is to find your son, you are offered free national exposure, take it. Nobody, not even the great all mightly Dr. Phil, can make you say something you don't want to, take a LDT if you don't want to or argue with someone you don't want to.

Have you ever had a one-sided argument? If the other person doesn't participate the other person looks like a fool.

All IMOO.

Called Talk To The Hand!

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

At first I thought it was great that MR had obtained this PI. I thought well at least he's doing something! But I am concerned that maybe the PI doesn't have MR or Dylan's best interest at heart. I don't think a good PI would be posting anything on FB. That's absurd. And I don't think a good PI would be discussing a new tip prior to LE releasing this info. And this worries me for all those involved.

 

[Eileen730]

At first I thought it was great that MR had obtained this PI. I thought well at least he's doing something! But I am concerned that maybe the PI doesn't have MR or Dylan's best interest at heart. I don't think a good PI would be posting anything on FB. That's absurd. And I don't think a good PI would be discussing a new tip prior to LE releasing this info. And this worries me for all those involved.

OMGoodness I totally agree he really shouldnt be on Facebook at all.
Its an investigation! This guy worried from day one!